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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 16, 2018 2:54:57 GMT
Black Widow didn't get her own solo movie then because there were other plans for her at the time, and its uncertain if they thought the best story for one could've fit in with their slate of films then. Black Widow didn't get her own solo movie because Ike Perlmutter wouldn't let them. Once he was gone they immediately started work on better stuff for women. DC has no excuse for waiting so long to do WW. They had nothing holding them back. WW had no impact on the MCU, all it did was break the Female CBM curse that DC itself started.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 16, 2018 3:00:02 GMT
Agreed. There's already been Le Femme Nikita, Atomic Blonde, and Red Sparrow. A Black Widow movie would just be a rip-off of those movies. She predates all of them, so it's the other way around. If you knew anything about the comics you'd know this. I'm not referring to the comics. I'm referring to the movies.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 16, 2018 3:04:32 GMT
Black Widow didn't get her own solo movie because Ike Perlmutter wouldn't let them. And Ike Perlmutter was an MCU executive so basically the powers that be at MCU decided they wanted to make movies with male lead characters only and didn't want to make any movie with a female lead character, until Wonder Woman showed that female-led superhero movies can make money. WW had no impact on the MCU Wonder Woman is the reason that MCU announced a Captain Marvel movie. MCU would've never greenlit a Captain Marvel movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 16, 2018 3:12:14 GMT
You are right it worked in the comics,but the comics were serious and not silly like most of the movies. The movie characters and netflix won't fit in with each other,the netflix characters facs real danger and get hurt,they are not telling jokes or beating villians by dancing. Dude, wtf is wrong with you? "You are right it worked in the comics,but the comics were serious and not silly like most of the movies." - Oh knock it off with this BS, the MCU has as much variety in its storytelling as the comics are. We see books with dark stories and books with lighter ones all the time and often the characters in them do interact one way or the other and it's of no problem for the reader. Black Widow does not have a clean and chipper backstory in the movies and definitely would get along fine with Daredevil, thing is it would be stupid expensive to get Scarlett Johansson to appear on the show, but it would be welcomed as would it be if Charlie Cox popped up in one of the movies( it IS in his contract and he is definitely on board if they give the call). "The movie characters and netflix won't fit in with each other" - They occupy the same universe. "the netflix characters facs real danger" - Like what? It's all fictional. None of it is real. "and get hurt" - so do the movie characters, Quicksilver died remember? "they are not telling jokes" - Looks like you didn't see The Defenders as you claim because they *were* cracking jokes. "or beating villains by dancing" - Oh my god, this crap again. It didn't happen, accept it and stop having this bizarre obsession with a fiction you and some dumb internet trolls created. It's not healthy. Scarjo is worth about as much as RDJ pre mcu,nothing. Only references keep netflix and tne movies together,but the Netflix characters are too dark and serious to be next to the avengers. Quicksilver dies,instead of showing him respect,Stark tries to be funny towards the end. The jokes on defenders didn't feel force and out of place. Heres what happened in guardians ![](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113706/5657513-7917081351-tumbl.gif)
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 16, 2018 3:18:07 GMT
Ike Perlmutter wouldn't let them. And Ike Perlmutter was an MCU executive so basically the powers that be at MCU decided they wanted to make movies with male lead characters only and didn't want to make any movie with a female lead character, until Wonder Woman showed that female-led superhero movies can make money. WW had no impact on the MCU Wonder Woman is the reason that MCU announced a Captain Marvel movie. MCU would've never greenlit a Captain Marvel movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first. I like how you say that one man was the one stopping female led movies at Marvel so that means all the people in charge was stopping it. Also, how does a man being taken away from duties equate them not wanting to make one until Wonder Woman? There is obviously a correlation between this man not being in charge at Marvel to them instant announcing a movie being made when he steps out the door.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 4:48:14 GMT
Dude, wtf is wrong with you? "You are right it worked in the comics,but the comics were serious and not silly like most of the movies." - Oh knock it off with this BS, the MCU has as much variety in its storytelling as the comics are. We see books with dark stories and books with lighter ones all the time and often the characters in them do interact one way or the other and it's of no problem for the reader. Black Widow does not have a clean and chipper backstory in the movies and definitely would get along fine with Daredevil, thing is it would be stupid expensive to get Scarlett Johansson to appear on the show, but it would be welcomed as would it be if Charlie Cox popped up in one of the movies( it IS in his contract and he is definitely on board if they give the call). "The movie characters and netflix won't fit in with each other" - They occupy the same universe. "the netflix characters facs real danger" - Like what? It's all fictional. None of it is real. "and get hurt" - so do the movie characters, Quicksilver died remember? "they are not telling jokes" - Looks like you didn't see The Defenders as you claim because they *were* cracking jokes. "or beating villains by dancing" - Oh my god, this crap again. It didn't happen, accept it and stop having this bizarre obsession with a fiction you and some dumb internet trolls created. It's not healthy. Scarjo is worth about as much as RDJ pre mcu,nothing. Only references keep netflix and tne movies together,but the Netflix characters are too dark and serious to be next to the avengers. Quicksilver dies,instead of showing him respect,Stark tries to be funny towards the end. The jokes on defenders didn't feel force and out of place. Heres what happened in guardians You mean post, not pre. If you're actually meaning pre then you're an idiot because Scarlett Johansson and RDJ's portrayals of their characters made them A listers and without RDJ's work in the first Iron Man we wouldn't have the MCU as it is today, or one at all. It's not ScarJo's call to appear anywhere outside of the movies, its Marvel's decision, just the same it isn't Charlie Cox' decision to make either on who gets to be in the next season of Daredevil or which movie the character should appear in. They're both actors who are in for the ride and collect their checks at the end of the day. No they're not, they have as much to carry on their shoulders as everyone else does in the movies, the only difference is that the shows can present certain elements to the next level instead of keeping it subtle for a wider target demographic but that's really it. It's not a situation like, say, where Clifford the Big Red Dog meets Stephen King's Cujo. That is assuming it would ever happen though, current business situations creating complications for such to happen and all. What exactly did Stark say again? Don't say "he made jokes" I want a specific quote, or better yet a clip from the movie. I'm calling double standard. Yeah, Starlord did that to distract Ronan, and that's was it. It didn't beat him, the gem did which was a group effort. Seriously dude, are you trolling with this crap? Even after I made that thread calling BS on the whole thing? If not, damn you have issues.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 4:49:28 GMT
It's cash grab. not crash grab. And use punctuation in your sentences as it's hard to read. Does not change anything,so if all you can put is spelling errors you know I am right. It would help if you would spell better more often, then it wouldn't be call out as much and you would be taken a little more seriously on here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 8:04:37 GMT
Yes. I think Black Widow definitely deserves a movie and a movie of 'Black Widow' is overdue but I would rather see movies of Spider Woman/ Jessica Drew, SpiderGwen, Shanna the She Devil and Elsa Bloodstone. ![](https://s9.postimg.cc/b1mn5bua7/venicoon_by_trehman-d58vsoe.gif)
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 16, 2018 11:50:27 GMT
She predates all of them, so it's the other way around. If you knew anything about the comics you'd know this. I'm not referring to the comics. I'm referring to the movies. Doesn't matter, she came first before those. So they're rip-offs of her story.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 16, 2018 11:52:45 GMT
Scarjo is worth about as much as RDJ pre mcu, An Oscar, Emmy and Golden Globe Nominee and winner? No, they're too weak and pathetic to be next to the Avengers. And stuff from the movies directly impacts the Netflix shows if you paid attention. The End was long after he'd been dead. Yeah, they did. A distraction, an effective one. I notice you aren't using the scene where the Power Stone destroys Ronan.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 16, 2018 11:54:03 GMT
Ike Perlmutter wouldn't let them. And Ike Perlmutter was Detrimental to the MCU, like the WB Head who resigned was detrimental to the DCEU. I don't see you complaining about him. Had no impact on the MCU. It's the MCU that got WW greenlit. Just like Marvel has always been the only reason DC takes any chances.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 16, 2018 14:33:48 GMT
Ike Perlmutter wouldn't let them. And Ike Perlmutter was an MCU executive so basically the powers that be at MCU decided they wanted to make movies with male lead characters only and didn't want to make any movie with a female lead character, until Wonder Woman showed that female-led superhero movies can make money. WW had no impact on the MCU Wonder Woman is the reason that MCU announced a Captain Marvel movie. MCU would've never greenlit a Captain Marvel movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first.Boom. Quoted for truth.
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Post by sostie on Apr 16, 2018 14:37:53 GMT
And Ike Perlmutter was an MCU executive so basically the powers that be at MCU decided they wanted to make movies with male lead characters only and didn't want to make any movie with a female lead character, until Wonder Woman showed that female-led superhero movies can make money. Wonder Woman is the reason that MCU announced a Captain Marvel movie. MCU would've never greenlit a Captain Marvel movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first.Boom. Quoted for truth. Congratulations...you will soon be the recipient of a DC-Fan "like"
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 16, 2018 14:52:35 GMT
Not me. We've had plenty of her in these movies already. She's just not that interesting. She has no powers and the reformed assassin trope is beyond played out in Hollywood. Id rather see a HAWKEYE movie instead. As for more female representation: how about a Scarlett Witchy Woman movie instead? I say give all the female characters their own movie. Black Widow, Captain Marvel, Miss America, Silk, Spider-Woman, Gamora, Nebula, Scarlett Witch, She-Hulk, female Ghost Rider (forgot her name), Mantis, Miss Marvel, Spider-Gwen, White Tiger, Elektra, ect. Why stop at one character when we can bring them all to the big screen?
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Post by miike80 on Apr 16, 2018 14:57:56 GMT
Only way I would care for a Black Widow movie if it's something like Winter Soldier. Otherwise,I don't really care for her
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Post by sostie on Apr 16, 2018 15:06:12 GMT
Not me. We've had plenty of her in these movies already. She's just not that interesting. She has no powers and the reformed assassin trope is beyond played out in Hollywood. Agreed. There's already been Le Femme Nikita, Atomic Blonde, and Red Sparrow. A Black Widow movie would just be a rip-off of those movies. So despite the similarities in background and her origin pre-dating all three films, a film that has not even been made would automatically rip off three films that already exist! So does your post also mean Red Sparrow ripped off Atomic Blonde and La Femme Nikita, or did the novel Red Sparrow rip off the comic that Atomic Blonde was based on, and did Atomic Blonde rip-off La Femme Nikita, but the Black Widow film that doesn't exist would rip-off all three!!! That's like saying Chuck Spanski of the Cleveland Sheepdogs getting a 5 points run down and conversion in the BNA playoffs while Dan "King Kong" Connor only got 3 points 10 years before when he slam drived his winning throw in the NLF finals against the Sacremento Bumblebees, whilst forgetting Hal Puck's brave 40 yard line putt for 4.5 points in the HLN Rose Crown Trophy.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 16, 2018 15:07:18 GMT
And Ike Perlmutter was an MCU executive so basically the powers that be at MCU decided they wanted to make movies with male lead characters only and didn't want to make any movie with a female lead character, until Wonder Woman showed that female-led superhero movies can make money. Wonder Woman is the reason that MCU announced a Captain Marvel movie. MCU would've never greenlit a Captain Marvel movie if WB hadn't announced a Wonder Woman movie first.Boom. Quoted for truth. Boom bang thank you man!
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 16, 2018 15:17:37 GMT
Congratulations...you will soon be the recipient of a DC-Fan "like" He's fighting hitting the like button.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 16, 2018 15:19:30 GMT
Dude, wtf is wrong with you? Heres what happened in guardians ![](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113706/5657513-7917081351-tumbl.gif) Comedy Gold Classic
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Ronan: What are you doing?
Peter Quill: Dance-off, Bro. Me and you.
[holds out his hand for Gamora]
Ronan: What are you doing?
Peter Quill: I'm distracting you, you big turd blossom!
Ronan: You're mortal! How...
Peter Quill: You said it, Bitch. We're the Guardians of the Galaxy.
[the Guardians strike Ronan with a magic stone]
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 16, 2018 16:02:58 GMT
Heres what happened in guardians ![](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113706/5657513-7917081351-tumbl.gif) Comedy Gold Classic
![](https://78.media.tumblr.com/4616bf9639c2f16960146e9a57a17182/tumblr_nb8vf6vPzp1shmcjio3_400.gif)
Ronan: What are you doing?
Peter Quill: Dance-off, Bro. Me and you.
[holds out his hand for Gamora]
Ronan: What are you doing?
Peter Quill: I'm distracting you, you big turd blossom!
Ronan: You're mortal! How...
Peter Quill: You said it, Bitch. We're the Guardians of the Galaxy.
[the Guardians strike Ronan with a magic stone]
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![](https://s26.postimg.cc/x67gkeemx/popcorn.gif) ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/tek3suwt5/laugh.gif)
Hey Jimmy, how's Gretchen?
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