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Post by geode on Feb 19, 2019 8:53:41 GMT
The Mormons have pushed "tithing" to s virtually mandatory requirement. A Mormon cannot participate in many aspects of their faith if they do not pay this. There is even an annual accounting of it with church leaders, and a formal record kept of compliance. This goes against what Jesus taught about offerings in my opinion. My parents' church didn't go quite that far, but pretty close. They regularly brought up what the Bible says about tithing to make it clear that that was what was expected of the faithful. They would embellish with "testimonials" of how God would return abundant blessings as a reward for exceptional giving, including financial blessings. Malachi 3:10 "Bring you all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in my house, and prove me now herewith, said the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it."
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Post by geode on Feb 18, 2019 10:27:42 GMT
“I had to be creative about getting the information to them,” said the project’s creator, whom we’re calling John Jones. He is a small business owner in Southern California who spoke to The Daily Beast on condition of anonymity, because he fears reprisal from his former church. “You’re taught not to listen to apostates. You don’t listen to anything anti-Mormon, the same way you wouldn’t give in to any other temptation.” I wonder what kind of reprisals he thinks the church could launch at him?
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Post by geode on Feb 18, 2019 8:40:10 GMT
of course they have contributions but they aren’t mandatory. Bills gotta be paid. Services have to be provided, and kind hearts abound in church settings. No ones homeless or starving on the basis of charity It is expected though of regular members. I didn't say people were losing their homes making God happy, I just said "poorer". The Mormons have pushed "tithing" to s virtually mandatory requirement. A Mormon cannot participate in many aspects of their faith if they do not pay this. There is even an annual accounting of it with church leaders, and a formal record kept of compliance. This goes against what Jesus taught about offerings in my opinion.
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Post by geode on Feb 17, 2019 15:13:12 GMT
I remember somebody once posting a video on the old board that he claimed was an exorcism. It was literally five minutes of a woman lying on the floor pretty much motionless, except that she would roll around a little every now and again. The poster was like "See! Proof positive of demons!" These kinds of videos are desperate and kind of sad. That was Martyrs55 who I mentioned in the OP.
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Post by geode on Feb 17, 2019 15:03:30 GMT
Where did you check into it, books and periodicals? Yes Plus it's pervasive throughout all of culture including schooling. To not research evolution is to fail a lot of classes. Where did you look? I don't remember research of evolution being important in many classes I took. But it was essential to two or three university classes I took. Since then I have looked to technical journal articles for information. What do you think about the very high percentage of DNA similarities between humans and apes? This isn't indicative of common descent to you?
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Post by geode on Feb 17, 2019 14:52:08 GMT
I know quite a few people who have no time for religion but believe in all sorts of spiritual views like astrology, reincarnation, soul mates etc And many of them say that astrology is pure science. The movements of planet is connected to your date of birth and where those planets were in their path on the day you were born. Is astrology science?
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 14:09:16 GMT
It was me but very much out of context as usual What did you say with the context intact?
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 13:10:17 GMT
Why would there be anything in your profile that would indicate your not looking for evidence of the evolution of mankind? I meant in general. When I make statements, I rarely make them without looking up information on the matter whether discussing evolution, religion, law, or whatever... So when I say that there is nothing out there to verify we are the product of billions of years of evolution, it's not nor never would be based on the notion that I feel that way because I never checked which would be silly. Where did you check into it, books and periodicals?
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 13:01:11 GMT
Have you looked for any such evidence? Of course. There is nothing in my profile that indicates I don't and I'm always looking for a chance to be objectively corrected Why would there be anything in your profile that would indicate your not looking for evidence of the evolution of mankind?
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 9:04:41 GMT
I have been seeing multiple articles indicating that Millennials are leaving religion in droves, but they seem to have embraced astrology.
From sun sign “moods” to zodiac fashion à la Vetements, it’s no secret that astrology is having a moment among millennials. And nowhere does this modern rise of secular spirituality manifest as much as Instagram. Accounts like @astromemequeen and @costarastrology feed us with daily digestible chunks of astrology in the universal language that we all speak: memes. They show us, in jest, which type of fries we’re more inclined to according to our zodiac, or which method we’re more likely to use to shun a pesky ex-flame. But what’s presented to us here in only a few characters is a little more complex than that.
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 8:40:10 GMT
As long as I can remember or at least since I began reading and watching TV. To this day I have seen no evidence that we are the products of billions of years of evolution beyond pretty pictures. Have you looked for any such evidence?
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 7:05:04 GMT
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 6:57:49 GMT
No, see... that's not how it works, and you know it. Prove 'it actually occurs'. That was YOUR claim. I await your video 'evidence' from Infowars. I wish I had a copy of Martyrs55 video of the Floating Pendant. He was really quite offended that nobody could see evidence of a demon in it. It was basically the same as if you dangled a necklace in front of a camera, and this was the strongest evidence he had on camera.
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 6:53:55 GMT
THE
He is soooo damned cool, he turned down Major. I don't need your stink'n promotion. ...and that doesn't happen every day.
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 5:20:39 GMT
Like: the one that was present among believers in and during Acts 2:42 Dislike: all others Does the one you like exist as an organized institution today?
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 5:00:43 GMT
Yes, the Mormon leadership's stress on "obedience" has been very high the last several years. As Steve Benson (grandson of Mormon president Ezra Taft Benson) said decades ago, it is all about "Pray, pay, obey." I think the last part has grown in prominence since he said this. How does any reasonable rational intelligent human being just 'pray pay and obey'? I don't think a reasonable rational intelligent human being can do this unless they essentially ignore rational thinking.
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Post by geode on Feb 15, 2019 19:32:13 GMT
1000 signatures out of the millions of scientists out there is hardly "growing skepticism". As someone pointed out, that list was compiled from over 20 years. Last time I checked, 99% of scientists accept evolution. Besides wow many of those scientists that signed it are actual biologists? Many of them are probably just engineers or some other non biology related field, or probably creationist "scientists" (not actual scientists). There are a shipload of mechanical engineers on the list, quite a few in computer science, and statisticians.
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Post by geode on Feb 15, 2019 19:20:15 GMT
I just tied the vote up...
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Post by geode on Feb 15, 2019 19:17:36 GMT
Although it had other aspects to recommend, when it aired I watched it because I had a crush on Pam Dawber.
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So...
Feb 15, 2019 19:12:59 GMT
via mobile
Post by geode on Feb 15, 2019 19:12:59 GMT
Sew, a needle pulling thread.
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