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Post by James Bond on Jun 27, 2018 16:52:35 GMT
Iron Man and Captain America will likely go. They're supposedly making a Black Widow movie so she might stay along with...Thor? I could see that. Hard to believe they'd kill him off after the success of Ragnarok. I'd like to see Hawkeye survive, if only because he's barely had anything to do at all through how many movies now? 4 so far.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 27, 2018 18:02:54 GMT
I disagree with that. I think if they kill off all of the main characters, they risk alienating a huge section of the audience. You only have to look at Star Wars to see the potential disaster lurking around the corner should Feige mishandle the next step. To me there's no other way. Feige and company put themselves in this situation. Now they have to finish the job and respect the ending of IW. I think that if the original heroes die honorable deaths, the people will embrace the next movie and love every bit of it. Comic books always killed the heroes off for good at some point, so this should be expected. What comic book hero is perma-dead?
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 27, 2018 18:10:14 GMT
As long as Gamora stays dead. Thats what the trade for the soul stone should mean, permanent death. If they bring her back im going to downgrade Infinity War from 8.5 to 6.5 minimum. It would take away a lot of her character arc as well as Thanos' which is the really the main plot line for IW. Gamora is in the Soul Stone. Did you not see when Thanos went into the Soul Stone?
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Post by scabab on Jun 27, 2018 18:57:32 GMT
Hawkeye hardly doing anything is why I think they'll kill him off.
Also if the MCU is supposedly going to have more female heroes than male heroes well that would be another reason why Black Widow might stay alive.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jun 27, 2018 19:23:59 GMT
Breaking news. Jared Leto to play Morbius the living Vampire for Sony!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 27, 2018 20:23:11 GMT
Nobody in their right mind thought all of those characters were going to remain dead. ^^^this^^^ But then again you said " right mind", so...
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 27, 2018 20:30:21 GMT
To me there's no other way. Feige and company put themselves in this situation. Now they have to finish the job and respect the ending of IW. I think that if the original heroes die honorable deaths, the people will embrace the next movie and love every bit of it. Comic books always killed the heroes off for good at some point, so this should be expected. What comic book hero is perma-dead? Movies are different, but heroes have died before in the comics. I don't understand why people think a superhero dying is some kind of impossible and highly offensive act. Someone mentions the word "death" and a whole group of people shit their pants.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 27, 2018 20:53:07 GMT
What comic book hero is perma-dead? Movies are different, but heroes have died before in the comics.I don't understand why people think a superhero dying is some kind of impossible and highly offensive act. Someone mentions the word "death" and a whole group of people shit their pants. Can you name one who's never come back?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 21:01:21 GMT
As long as Gamora stays dead. Thats what the trade for the soul stone should mean, permanent death. If they bring her back im going to downgrade Infinity War from 8.5 to 6.5 minimum. It would take away a lot of her character arc as well as Thanos' which is the really the main plot line for IW. I disagree because Nebula will almost certainly trade her life to bring Gamora back. That's why the writers spared her from the snap. And her entire story arc has been building to that moment, the ultimate reconciliation with her sister.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 27, 2018 21:02:33 GMT
Movies are different, but heroes have died before in the comics.I don't understand why people think a superhero dying is some kind of impossible and highly offensive act. Someone mentions the word "death" and a whole group of people shit their pants. Can you name one who's never come back? screenrant.com/superheroes-who-died-and-stayed-dead/Here are 15. And before you say "No they came back later," realize that they died within their specific series arc and never came back within the story. That's what I'm talking about. The MCU is essentially one long comic series, so killing a character off in this series doesn't mean they can never make a movie on them again. It just means they're dead in this particular arc.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2018 21:04:20 GMT
As long as Gamora stays dead. Thats what the trade for the soul stone should mean, permanent death. If they bring her back im going to downgrade Infinity War from 8.5 to 6.5 minimum. It would take away a lot of her character arc as well as Thanos' which is the really the main plot line for IW. I disagree because Nebula will almost certainly trade her life to bring Gamora back. That's why the writers spared her from the snap. And her entire story arc has been building to that moment, the ultimate reconciliation with her sister.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 27, 2018 21:12:33 GMT
Can you name one who's never come back? screenrant.com/superheroes-who-died-and-stayed-dead/Here are 15. And before you say "No they came back later," realize that they died within their specific series arc and never came back within the story. That's what I'm talking about. The MCU is essentially one long comic series, so killing a character off in this series doesn't mean they can never make a movie on them again. It just means they're dead in this particular arc. Just started reading that article. Here's a quote to do with Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell), "His solo series never caught on, despite a few revamps, though one of his greatest claims to fame is the introduction of Rick Jones (that guy who's always somebody's sidekick) within the pages of Captain Marvel." That sentence implies that Rick Jones's first appearance was in a Captain Marvel comic book. Every comic book fan knows he first appeared in The Incredible Hulk. So how factually inaccurate is the rest of this article going to be?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 27, 2018 21:59:32 GMT
screenrant.com/superheroes-who-died-and-stayed-dead/Here are 15. And before you say "No they came back later," realize that they died within their specific series arc and never came back within the story. That's what I'm talking about. The MCU is essentially one long comic series, so killing a character off in this series doesn't mean they can never make a movie on them again. It just means they're dead in this particular arc. Just started reading that article. Here's a quote to do with Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell), "His solo series never caught on, despite a few revamps, though one of his greatest claims to fame is the introduction of Rick Jones (that guy who's always somebody's sidekick) within the pages of Captain Marvel." That sentence implies that Rick Jones's first appearance was in a Captain Marvel comic book. Every comic book fan knows he first appeared in The Incredible Hulk. So how factually inaccurate is the rest of this article going to be? You pointed out the least important part of the entire article. Ignore the rest of it if you want, I don't give a shit. The fact remains that I believe a few of the heroes should die and stay dead. That's a logical and effective step for the story and the characters.
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 27, 2018 22:44:04 GMT
That's why it was stupid to make it a 2-part movie and have a cliffhanger. They should've just made it 1 movie. But MCU Dictator Kevin Feige got greedy and wanted to make people pay twice the money to see what should've been just 1 movie. So you're saying David Heyman and J.K. Rowling are greedy to make the final Harry Potter a 2 parter? Is Stephanie Meyer greedy for making the final Twilight movie a 2 parter? Rowling? Probably not. Meyer? Very likely.
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Post by merh on Jun 28, 2018 0:42:05 GMT
But pretty much every comic book superhero who has been killed comes back sometime. What does it matter? They aren't real. Why play at it? Because it's what they've been doing. They've been hinting at deaths and the departure of certain characters for a long time. Then IW went for shock value by killing off a bunch of characters. They can't walk all of that back now. You also have to look at it from a practical standpoint. Comic books can add and drop characters whenever and wherever they want. Movies need actors and actors need money. Marvel isn't going to pay for a bunch of new contracts just so someone that died in an earlier movie can come back. Maybe one or two, but not all of them. Hemsworth has voiced willingness to renew his contract. Evans doesnt like the bulking up. RDJ is probably the most expensive contract
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Post by merh on Jun 28, 2018 0:55:59 GMT
Yeah, I just looked it up. They've brought him back a couple of times in the last 10 years (I haven't been an avid comic reader since the 90s) and both times they've killed him off within that particular storyline, as if that excuses the corny resurrection in the first place. Captain Mar-Vell didn't really matter as a character until he died. It's hard for me to think of any famous storylines which included him aside from his death in The Death of Captain Marvel. You would think that Marvel would be smart enough not to undermine one of their most poignant storylines by brining the character back... The one thing that actually made the character special was his death. Hey! I collected his comics so I found him interesting outside of his death. Stuff with Warlock. Space stuff... Some of us don't always go for the most popular character. Marvel needs to bring in Namor! And Ka-Zar! Damn Netflix's Defenders! I want the one started by Strange, Hulk & Namor! Nighthawk, Valkyrie, & Son of Satan were members. If they do Blade, I want Hannibal King! Hell, how about a Warriors 3 movie!
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 28, 2018 2:48:19 GMT
Captain Mar-Vell didn't really matter as a character until he died. It's hard for me to think of any famous storylines which included him aside from his death in The Death of Captain Marvel. You would think that Marvel would be smart enough not to undermine one of their most poignant storylines by brining the character back... The one thing that actually made the character special was his death. Hey! I collected his comics so I found him interesting outside of his death. Stuff with Warlock. Space stuff... Some of us don't always go for the most popular character. Marvel needs to bring in Namor! And Ka-Zar! Damn Netflix's Defenders! I want the one started by Strange, Hulk & Namor! Nighthawk, Valkyrie, & Son of Satan were members. If they do Blade, I want Hannibal King! Hell, how about a Warriors 3 movie! I was more interested as his background as a Kree soldier and their conflict with the Skrulls. Kree culture is endlessly fascinating to me. I hope the MCU can do justice to both.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jun 28, 2018 4:49:16 GMT
So you're saying David Heyman and J.K. Rowling are greedy to make the final Harry Potter a 2 parter? Is Stephanie Meyer greedy for making the final Twilight movie a 2 parter? Rowling? Probably not. Meyer? Very likely. Feige and Rowling are on the same level of genius.
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Post by scabab on Jun 28, 2018 4:59:33 GMT
That whole Two-Parter gimmick was something that began and ended very quickly.
It worked for Harry Potter but then didn't so much for Twilight and Hunger Games. It killed Divergent.
They changed it around for Justice League and Infinity War as well.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 28, 2018 8:52:05 GMT
In regards to splitting the last Harry Potter book into two movies:
It needed to happen. The last book was pretty fucking big and if you condensed it into one movie you would be cutting a lot of it out as well as rushing the story.
I understand why some people may dislike the whole two parter for movies, but sometimes it is required.
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