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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 28, 2018 16:55:15 GMT
funny how mcu and the media spin doctors work.
gotg and scooby doo are the same movies directed by gunn but they convince themselves gotg is good and scooby doo is bad.
So what were you telling others when the recent Clint Eastwood film turned out to be an utter fiasco? I need to hear this. Should we tell him that Gunn didn't direct Scooby-Doo? |
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Post by James on Aug 28, 2018 18:18:39 GMT
In all fairness, I agree with the OP. There.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 28, 2018 18:23:03 GMT
So what were you telling others when the recent Clint Eastwood film turned out to be an utter fiasco? I need to hear this. Should we tell him that Gunn didn't direct Scooby-Doo? justanaveragejoe told him that already. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 28, 2018 18:56:30 GMT
It's even a common trope. tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks Its one thing to dislike a few of the films or maybe dislike one of the character's main film, or dislike a recurring aspect of the films, but when you lump them all together and hate them for being the "same" even though that's not true, you're just trying to be trendy because it's apparently cool to do so. And there are a few obvious users on here (won't specify who, they know) who are like that. And they also like to attack other people's taste in these films if they really like them. It may not be a direct insult and really subtle, but it's pretty blatant when they're attacking simply for liking these films because they're so popular right now. Alright, shitstorm, here we come... Shitstorm cometh!!!
First of all stop crying "whoa is me" like the MCU doesn't have a legion of fanati... I mean fans. Secondly, nobody is lumping them all together and hating them for being the "same" even though that's not true, because we're just trying to be trendy because it's apparently cool to do so.
MCU has the most fanatical and one sided fan base I have ever seen! Even Star Wars fans are willing to criticize their movies, but once someone says anything remotely negative about an MCU movie its...
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 29, 2018 21:16:00 GMT
It's even a common trope. tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsPopularNowItSucks Its one thing to dislike a few of the films or maybe dislike one of the character's main film, or dislike a recurring aspect of the films, but when you lump them all together and hate them for being the "same" even though that's not true, you're just trying to be trendy because it's apparently cool to do so. And there are a few obvious users on here (won't specify who, they know) who are like that. And they also like to attack other people's taste in these films if they really like them. It may not be a direct insult and really subtle, but it's pretty blatant when they're attacking simply for liking these films because they're so popular right now. Alright, shitstorm, here we come... Shitstorm cometh!!!
First of all stop crying "whoa is me" like the MCU doesn't have a legion of fanati... I mean fans. Secondly, nobody is lumping them all together and hating them for being the "same" even though that's not true, because we're just trying to be trendy because it's apparently cool to do so.
MCU has the most fanatical and one sided fan base I have ever seen! Even Star Wars fans are willing to criticize their movies, but once someone says anything remotely negative about an MCU movie its...
Nah, you can tell the ones that genuinely don't like or care for the movies and the ones that are not liking them just because. I mean, the hardcore "haters" here say the same things like they are using a script. |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 29, 2018 21:27:37 GMT
Shitstorm cometh!!!
First of all stop crying "whoa is me" like the MCU doesn't have a legion of fanati... I mean fans. Secondly, nobody is lumping them all together and hating them for being the "same" even though that's not true, because we're just trying to be trendy because it's apparently cool to do so.
MCU has the most fanatical and one sided fan base I have ever seen! Even Star Wars fans are willing to criticize their movies, but once someone says anything remotely negative about an MCU movie its...
Nah, you can tell the ones that genuinely don't like or care for the movies and the ones that are not liking them just because. I mean, the hardcore "haters" here say the same things like they are using a script. That's because the script never changes with MCU formulas. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 29, 2018 23:27:28 GMT
Nah, you can tell the ones that genuinely don't like or care for the movies and the ones that are not liking them just because. I mean, the hardcore "haters" here say the same things like they are using a script. That's because the script never changes with MCU formulas. If that's true, then WB/DC would have no problem using that "formula." You know they would if they could, honey. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 30, 2018 10:35:13 GMT
Nah, you can tell the ones that genuinely don't like or care for the movies and the ones that are not liking them just because. I mean, the hardcore "haters" here say the same things like they are using a script. That's because the script never changes with MCU formulas. Let me tell you about the unchanging script of the X-men movies sometime. Maybe with that haci Singer gone we'll get a different story. Wait, Magneto and Mystique is in the movie. Nevermind. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 30, 2018 10:58:14 GMT
That's because the script never changes with MCU formulas. If that's true, then WB/DC would have no problem using that "formula." You know they would if they could, honey. DC fans are less accepting of that formula, they tend to be adults and more demanding. JL demonstrated it.
But you manchildren love your MCU formula; Marvel milks it in large quantities so you can greedily suck it from it's sensitive nipples, until the day you spit it out realizing it's processed raccoon cum.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 30, 2018 12:29:09 GMT
That's because the script never changes with MCU formulas. Let me tell you about the unchanging script of the X-men movies sometime. Maybe with that haci Singer gone we'll get a different story. Wait, Magneto and Mystique is in the movie. Nevermind. Thats a recurring plot point, which should have been sealed after X2. There is no Xmen formula akin to MCU. Xmen films dont all end in mindless CGI clobber fests. They dont have MCU patented cheesy comedy and bathos humour or medoicre-terrible villains or light hearted, watered down stories or filler movies just to set up the next ensemble or low stakes with fake deaths. Star wars copied the mcu formula (DCEU tried) and theyre in disarray. Same will happen with Disney Xmen. |
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 30, 2018 14:02:02 GMT
Let me tell you about the unchanging script of the X-men movies sometime. Maybe with that haci Singer gone we'll get a different story. Wait, Magneto and Mystique is in the movie. Nevermind. Thats a recurring plot point, which should have been sealed after X2. There is no Xmen formula akin to MCU. Xmen films dont all end in mindless CGI clobber fests. They dont have MCU patented cheesy comedy and bathos humour or medoicre-terrible villains or light hearted, watered down stories or filler movies just to set up the next ensemble or low stakes with fake deaths. Star wars copied the mcu formula (DCEU tried) and theyre in disarray. Same will happen with Disney Xmen. Actually, most X-men villains range from mediocre to terrible. |
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Post by bud47 on Aug 30, 2018 14:15:41 GMT
Let me tell you about the unchanging script of the X-men movies sometime. Maybe with that haci Singer gone we'll get a different story. Wait, Magneto and Mystique is in the movie. Nevermind. Thats a recurring plot point, which should have been sealed after X2. There is no Xmen formula akin to MCU. Xmen films dont all end in mindless CGI clobber fests. They dont have MCU patented cheesy comedy and bathos humour or medoicre-terrible villains or light hearted, watered down stories or filler movies just to set up the next ensemble or low stakes with fake deaths. Star wars copied the mcu formula (DCEU tried) and theyre in disarray. Same will happen with Disney Xmen. X-Men Apocalypse says hello. Dark Phoenix will most likely be equal to this if not worse. Count on it. They've been riding off of the formula and success of X2 since 2003. It's old and stale now. They can't go one movie without Magneto, Mystique and Stryker. The MCU continues to use humor as a mainstay in their films because it has proven to be successful thanks to the example led by Robert Downey Jr and the first Avengers film. If something works, you keep doing it, which I guess explains why the Fox-Men films keep looking to X2 to light their way. We don't know what will happen with X-Men under the MCU, since it will be several years until we see a film under their banner. |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 30, 2018 15:31:37 GMT
Thats a recurring plot point, which should have been sealed after X2. There is no Xmen formula akin to MCU. Xmen films dont all end in mindless CGI clobber fests. They dont have MCU patented cheesy comedy and bathos humour or medoicre-terrible villains or light hearted, watered down stories or filler movies just to set up the next ensemble or low stakes with fake deaths. Star wars copied the mcu formula (DCEU tried) and theyre in disarray. Same will happen with Disney Xmen. Actually, most X-men villains range from mediocre to terrible. Magneto X1- great Stryker X2- great Magneto/Dark Phoenix X3- good Sabertooth Origins- good (deadpool doesnt count) Sebastian Shaw FC- good The viper TW- bad Magneto/Trask DOFP- good Apocalypse- bad Donald Pierce/X24 Logan- okay Only 2 terrible. |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 30, 2018 15:38:00 GMT
Apocalypse is formulaic in the MCU sense of the points i listed. But its the exception. Kingberg says Dark Phoneix is a big departure from Apocalypse so no i wont count on it. Magneto shouldnt have been in apocalypse but he plays a key role in others. Mistqiue is only prominent in DOFP. Shes a minor character in Apocalypse. Striker is done. Bathos humour doesnt work. Its why MCU films are just a "fun time at the theatres where you switch youre brain off". Sorry, dont want x films to be that way even if it means they would never be big box office draws. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 30, 2018 16:02:22 GMT
If that's true, then WB/DC would have no problem using that "formula." You know they would if they could, honey. DC fans are less accepting of that formula,[\b] they tend to be adults and more demanding. JL demonstrated it.
But you manchildren love your MCU formula; Marvel milks it in large quantities so you can greedily suck it from it's sensitive nipples, until the day you spit it out realizing it's processed raccoon cum.
DCEU fans are retards. All of 'em. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 30, 2018 16:10:38 GMT
DC fans are less accepting of that formula,[\b] they tend to be adults and more demanding. JL demonstrated it.
But you manchildren love your MCU formula; Marvel milks it in large quantities so you can greedily suck it from it's sensitive nipples, until the day you spit it out realizing it's processed raccoon cum.
DCEU fans are retards. All of 'em. and yet smart enough not to suck Marvel formula. That must seem as retarded to you as using toilet paper must seem to a monkey. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 30, 2018 16:20:06 GMT
DCEU fans are retards. All of 'em. and yet smart enough not to suck Marvel formula. That must seem as retarded to you as using toilet paper must seem to a monkey. You know, I see the formula argument keep coming up, but no one has actually specifically argued what is. Enlighten me on what it is. The humor? Oh, so you're allergic to humor or something? Sure the MCU films all have humor in it, but what's formulatic about that? It just helps give the film heart. Other than the humor, what exactly the same? When you introduce new characters and give them origin films, yeah, structurally, they may be similar, but that's kinda unavoidable when you introduce a new character. So is that really a case of being "formulatic"? DC does it as well. Wonder Woman is no different structurally than Captain America. And the last real "origin" film we got was Dr. Strange. Other than though, how is Infinity War, or Black Panther, or Winter Soldier, or Civil War, or Thor: Ragorok all the same? If you say humor, then you officially have no legitimate argument. The only two MCU films that are remotely the same, even I'll admit, are The Avengers and Age of Ultron, as they both have the big bad, then the big bad army of minions. I'll admit to that, but other than, what about them are the same? |
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 30, 2018 16:23:28 GMT
Actually, most X-men villains range from mediocre to terrible. Magneto X1- great Stryker X2- great Magneto/Dark Phoenix X3- good Sabertooth Origins- good (deadpool doesnt count) Sebastian Shaw FC- good The viper TW- bad Magneto/Trask DOFP- good Apocalypse- bad Donald Pierce/X24 Logan- okay Only 2 terrible. Magneto (old) - good Magneto (young) - good Stryker (old) - decent Sabertooth (origins) - decent Sabertooth (X1) - bad Toad (X1) - bad Dark Phoenix (X3) - forgettable Deadpool (origins) - horrible Sebastian Shaw - decent Trask - forgettable Lady Deathstrike (X2) - meh Donald Pierce - forgettable X24 - forgettable Apocalypse - bad Angel - bad Psylocke - hot but didn't do anything Silver Samurai - horrible So the only really good villain is Magneto. You have a few decent ones in Stryker, Shaw and Sabertooth. The rest range from meh to horrible. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 30, 2018 16:43:09 GMT
Actually, most X-men villains range from mediocre to terrible. Magneto X1- great Stryker X2- great Magneto/Dark Phoenix X3- good Sabertooth Origins- good (deadpool doesnt count) Sebastian Shaw FC- good The viper TW- bad Magneto/Trask DOFP- good Apocalypse- bad Donald Pierce/X24 Logan- okay Only 2 terrible. You do realize you're picking and choosing. The fact you say Deadpool doesn't count in Wolverine kinda confirms you're acknowledging that the series has mediocre to shitty villains. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Aug 30, 2018 17:47:25 GMT
If that's true, then WB/DC would have no problem using that "formula." You know they would if they could, honey. DC fans are less accepting of that formula, they tend to be adults and more demanding. JL demonstrated it.
But you manchildren love your MCU formula; Marvel milks it in large quantities so you can greedily suck it from it's sensitive nipples, until the day you spit it out realizing it's processed raccoon cum.
But aren't DC fans the ones that try to prove that "MARTHA!" is a very bold and sophisticated piece of storytelling? |
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