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Post by mikef6 on Nov 2, 2018 21:05:59 GMT
YES THEY DID! IT’S TRUE! KMA, Magars. As of 1 November 2018, the Muslims Unite for Pittsburgh Synagogue fundraising campaign had raised over $227,000, dwarfing their initial fundraising goal of $25,000. Snopes.com article
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 2, 2018 21:11:05 GMT
Okay?
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Post by amyghost on Nov 2, 2018 21:18:09 GMT
And Drumpf will find some way to put his own hate-spin on this; fortunately most of the country will likely ignore it.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 2, 2018 22:45:13 GMT
This is a good gesture.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 2, 2018 23:11:37 GMT
I presume some persons cried fake news?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 2, 2018 23:18:02 GMT
And it throws a monkey wrench into the Zionist paradigm that has been shoved up the collective nose of humanity since the 1940's. I don't really care for MikeF6 very much, but he gets a like for this thread.
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Post by Cody™ on Nov 2, 2018 23:27:22 GMT
Good on them.
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Post by Power Ranger on Nov 3, 2018 4:42:32 GMT
The faith of the donors is not listed.
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Post by Power Ranger on Nov 3, 2018 4:46:14 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 3, 2018 12:40:10 GMT
And Drumpf will find some way to put his own hate-spin on this; fortunately most of the country will likely ignore it. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.
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Post by Cody™ on Nov 3, 2018 14:54:44 GMT
This would not surprise me in the least. I found this news pretty iffy to begin with. While it’s true that Islam teaches Muslims to be charitable, but that’s mainly to other muslims. They’re also indoctrinated to hate Jews.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Nov 4, 2018 2:38:09 GMT
The faith of the donors is not listed. Is that relevant?
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Post by Power Ranger on Nov 4, 2018 2:43:58 GMT
The faith of the donors is not listed. Is that relevant? I guess not. The OP didn’t say ‘Did Muslims donate over $200K...’
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Post by dividavi on Nov 4, 2018 7:08:48 GMT
YES THEY DID! IT’S TRUE! KMA, Magars. As of 1 November 2018, the Muslims Unite for Pittsburgh Synagogue fundraising campaign had raised over $227,000, dwarfing their initial fundraising goal of $25,000. Snopes.com articleSo? It's also true that Muslims periodically murder Jews and get acclaim and money for doing so. There was the Sbarro Pizza bombing of 2001 planned by Ahlam Tamimi, a woman now safely in Jordan. There was the Fogel family mass murder. Stipends are paid to families of both prisoners and Palestinians killed in contexts ranging from political demonstrations that turn violent where protesters are killed by riot control methods (such as being hit by a tear gas canister) and to individuals imprisoned for "common crimes". The fund also pays $106 a month in "canteen money" to all imprisoned Palestinians, including those imprisoned for non-political crimes such as car theft and drug dealing, for prisoners to spend in the prison canteen. Families of individuals killed by Israeli security forces are paid stipends of about $800 to $1,000 per month. The families of convicted Palestinians serving time in Israeli prisons receive $3,000 or higher per month. Douglas J. Feith calls the stipends "cash incentives" to spur Arabs to undertake car ramming and stabbing as a terrorist tactic. Salam Fayyad, a former PA Prime Minister and Finance Minister, stated that between January 1995 and June 2002 the fund distributed NIS 16 million to families of prisoners annually, and between June 2002 to June 2004 NIS 88.5 million annually. It's also true that Sunni Muslim terrorists killed 3,000 people on September 11, 2001. It's also true that a Saudi prince tried to take advantage of it: It's probably true that the Pittsburgh killer was a voluminous reader of anti-Jew shit from the likes of Veterans Today and David Duke, two entities that eagerly support anything emanating from the Islamic Republic of Iran. Essentially, I don't give a shit about Muslim benevolence after the slaughter of Jews that they incited.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Nov 4, 2018 12:00:43 GMT
Essentially, I don't give a shit about Muslim benevolence after the slaughter of Jews that they incited. You don't think they might be different Muslims?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
Essentially, I don't give a shit about Muslim benevolence after the slaughter of Jews that they incited. You don't think they might be different Muslims? Come on now, we all know that Muslims are all utterly identical in every respect, and therefore all of them are to blame for any bad thing any of them does.
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Post by dividavi on Nov 4, 2018 23:23:10 GMT
You don't think they might be different Muslims? Come on now, we all know that Muslims are all utterly identical in every respect, and therefore all of them are to blame for any bad thing any of them does. My lord, you guys outwitted me. Somehow it never occurred to me that the billion or so Muslims in this world might show variances in perspectives and that not all Muslims are responsible for the actions of the few. As someone from Brazil once informed me, "You can not generalize," but I did anyways. However, speaking seriously, you can generalize and the generalizations for Islam are not favorable. Every Muslim and/or Arab state is an authoritarian state where those not subscribing to the dominant local variety of Islam must live in fear. The list would include free speech advocates, feminists, gays, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, apostates, atheists, practitioners of witchcraft and members of deviant Muslim sects. Oh wait, Bosnia is kind of tolerant and free as far as I know. Hey, that's an exception so that proves I was wrong. Except I was right. Saying that not all Muslims are to blame is true but meaningless. It would be just as true to say that not all NSDAP members from the 1930s were to blame for the Nazi genocide campaign against Jews. Very few actively participated in mass murder operations but the overwhelming majority supported the actions of the Third Reich while remaining willfully ignorant of what was happening back then. This Linda Sarsour bullshit donation is just an attempt to disguise a truly genocidal campaign that is supported by most Muslims, but not all.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 4, 2018 23:43:22 GMT
And Drumpf will find some way to put his own hate-spin on this; fortunately most of the country will likely ignore it. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real. Of course it's real. Trump is deranged.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 1:53:35 GMT
Come on now, we all know that Muslims are all utterly identical in every respect, and therefore all of them are to blame for any bad thing any of them does. However, speaking seriously, you can generalize and the generalizations for Islam are not favorable. Sure you can, but generalising is not often a good idea. Especially given that the generalisations frequently focus on tiny minorities of the group that's being generalised about. For example, it is a fact that most serious violence is perpetrated by men. Most criminal acts are perpetrated by men. Those governments you talk about? All largely or entirely governed by men. Should we label men as inherently violent? Should we call for a ban on male immigration? Should people be careful around you because you're a male and "we know what men are like"? And that last isn't hypothetical, by the way - you've almost certainly been in situations were somebody was, to at least some degree, afraid of you because you are a man. And if you don't think so, it's almost certainly because you didn't notice. Men are also most of the rapists. Are you a potential rapist? Do you object to being thought of as one? Why would you object - it's just generalising, right? And yet men (rightly, IMO) object to those kinds of generalisations. Often they'll literally say that it's deeply wrong to make such generalisations about men. It's strange to me, because I hear so many rants about how feminists must hate ALL men - after all, they keep saying such beastly things about men! And yet the people who object to that are often the same ones who are happy to engage in generalisations about muslims. Or black people, or gays, or "liberals", or women for that matter. As if the only group that it's not okay to generalise about are themselves.
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Post by puvo on Nov 5, 2018 3:53:33 GMT
However, speaking seriously, you can generalize and the generalizations for Islam are not favorable. Sure you can, but generalising is not often a good idea. Especially given that the generalisations frequently focus on tiny minorities of the group that's being generalised about. For example, it is a fact that most serious violence is perpetrated by men. Most criminal acts are perpetrated by men. Those governments you talk about? All largely or entirely governed by men. Should we label men as inherently violent? Should we call for a ban on male immigration? Should people be careful around you because you're a male and "we know what men are like"? And that last isn't hypothetical, by the way - you've almost certainly been in situations were somebody was, to at least some degree, afraid of you because you are a man. And if you don't think so, it's almost certainly because you didn't notice. Men are also most of the rapists. Are you a potential rapist? Do you object to being thought of as one? Why would you object - it's just generalising, right? And yet men (rightly, IMO) object to those kinds of generalisations. Often they'll literally say that it's deeply wrong to make such generalisations about men. It's strange to me, because I hear so many rants about how feminists must hate ALL men - after all, they keep saying such beastly things about men! And yet the people who object to that are often the same ones who are happy to engage in generalisations about muslims. Or black people, or gays, or "liberals", or women for that matter. As if the only group that it's not okay to generalise about are themselves. Just jumping in here without reading the thread, but many of the generalisations that you can make about islam dont involve tiny minorities. Large portions of the adherents hold some pretty disgusting beliefs. Even ones that live in western countries. 52% of British muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, for example. 47% think gay people shouldn't be teaching in schools. 40% thought a woman should always obey her husband. When you look at many muslim majority nations/areas, the numbers are much worse. With regard to women needing to always obey their husband, and carry out her husbands wishes, thats 93% in south east asian muslims, 87% in the middle east and north africa. So generalising that Islam/muslims are fairly restrictive on womens freedoms, and not all that fond of gay people, are really quite fair as it isnt tiny minorities holding the views.
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