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Post by ant-mac on Mar 8, 2019 3:15:28 GMT
Given enough time, it's inevitable.
The question is, do we have enough time?
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 3:48:04 GMT
I pee in my own coffee well tea as i don`t drink coffee. And just for the record i am not dismissing the possibility. I just think its unlikely i think its more likely that we will send androids or maybe cyborgs out to planets or moons beyond Mars. Interesting to consider. Human beings may after all be just little pissants who think we can do more than we are intellectually or physically capable. I don't think it's a stretch to say in, who knows, maybe in a century we'll have manned flights to the outer solar system, Jupiter and beyond. I do think we'll never leave the solar system though. It's just technologically impossible. Sad to have to put a limit on possibility though. People said the same thing about flying before the Wright Brothers gameboy. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 3:48:53 GMT
I wish i was more optimistic. Of course it would be amazing to colonize the solar system. I just dont see it happening in the near future. What do you call "the near future"? |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 3:50:29 GMT
Given enough time, it's inevitable. The question is, do we have enough time? There you go antmac. Nothing adds to the excitement like a little risk, conflict, and mystery. |
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Post by MCDemuth on Mar 8, 2019 4:02:50 GMT
I don't think we will. I don't even believe we will eventually send a man on Mars. That's not very optimistic. It's also a very odd way of thinking, since so many space agencies are planning for Mars missions within the next 25 years... OK, so maybe not in 25 years... In the last 116 years, we went from building the first airplane... to landing men on the Moon... to sending Probes and Rovers to Mars and even to Asteroids... So, why can't we send men to Mars within, let's say: "200" years from now? "Never"? I just can't understand why so many people think that sending men to Mars is such an impossible task...
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 4:04:35 GMT
People said the same thing about flying before the Wright Brothers gameboy. Oh, and I usually think that way. I think given enough time, perhaps thousands of years, we will be like Star Trek and exploring the galaxy. But what if the reverse is true, and we're just a rather intelligent ape with the limitations of our flesh? Then we won't be like Star Trek. But I don't like to think that way. Optimism isn't just an attitude. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 4:06:25 GMT
That's not very optimistic. It's also a very odd way of thinking, since so many space agencies are planning for Mars missions within the next 25 years... OK, so maybe not in 25 years... In the last 116 years, we went from building the first airplane... to landing men on the Moon... to sending Probes and Rovers to Mars and even to Asteroids... So, why can't we send men to Mars within, let's say: "200" years from now? "Never"? I just can't understand why so many people think that sending men to Mars is such an impossible task... Some people are just negative, pessimistic, cynical naysayers. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 4:17:06 GMT
Then we won't be like Star Trek. But I don't like to think that way. Optimism isn't just an attitude. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. True, pessimists get nowhere. It's pointless to handicap oneself. I can see our technology exploring the solar system. I'm just not sure with the distance and time involved we could ever leave the solar system though. That's because we don't know what they are going to know in the future. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 4:29:26 GMT
How about just building space stations farther and farther out in space toward other stars? I imagine that there will be some space stations but again, they need a power source. Personally, I'm not sure how long in practice space stations will last. At the very least you should have at least two space stations so that there's one to live in while you're repairing the other one. My thoughts are that if something goes wrong it's much better to be on the surface of a planet or a large rocky moon than in a space station. Space stations have to be under constant maintenance, they're small, and any number of accidents could immediately cause a disaster. There are advantages, like earth level gravity, and for that matter, the lack of gravity in special sectors of the station which you can't get on a planet's surface. There are many advantages of space stations but in my view, they're for explorers and the hardiest of people. There's no denying their utility but if there's a choice between a space station and a planet with at least .6 Earth gravity, I'd probably choose the planet. You are limiting yourself to the technology of today. No telling what power sources will be available in the future. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 8, 2019 10:33:54 GMT
Yes, but I don`t think humans will ever colonize the moons of Jupiter.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 8, 2019 10:39:32 GMT
If we last another century we'll definitely have the ability to fly there. I doubt we'll ever leave the solar system though.
 , NOT going to happen...SORRY!! We may OR may NOT colonize our solar-system ONE DAY...BUT that's IT!!!
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 8, 2019 10:42:39 GMT
No, at least not for the foreseeable future. hell, the distance alone seems to make going beyond a certain point impossible (assuming we only launch from earth) especially in terms of colonizing assuming we can't exceed the speed of light and I don't see us getting anywhere near close to that speed for a long time to come, maybe never, especially for manned missions. there is just too many hurdles to overcome for that to be realistic anytime in the foreseeable future. but I am sure humanity will keep on pushing the limits, as usual. but there must be a limit that no one can exceed. MCDemuthMaybe I am wrong but I can't see general technology to keep on advancing at that kind of rate as there must be some sort of limit, or point, before advancements slow down quite a bit. or another thing... maybe I am wrong, but I suspect we will have more of a leap between say the last 100 years til today than we will see from today til 100 years from now. but I might be wrong as 100 years is a lot of time in terms of technology as just looking at even the last 20 years or so things have gotten quite a bit faster/more power efficient etc. plus, assuming man comes no where close to the speed of light that's going to limit how far we can even attempt going in the solar system etc especially if your launching from earth and not going from say earth to mars to some other place and I would imagine things would be a lot more fragile with things setup on another planet etc. plus, the longer the trip, the higher the risks I would assume. sure, maybe landing some people on mars is possible, as it does not sound like a huge stretch, but I don't see people (as in any sizable amount of people) colonizing it (or anything else outside of earth) for the foreseeable future as if it does happen I think it's going to take hundreds of years. p.s. a article on how long it takes to get to Mars... www.space.com/24701-how-long-does-it-take-to-get-to-mars.html |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 10:43:03 GMT
I think we will leave the solar system. By building bases (space stations) further and further out.
Why would we stop there? |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 10:45:02 GMT
No, at least not for the foreseeable future. hell, the distance alone seems to make going beyond a certain point impossible (assuming we only launch from earth) especially in terms of colonizing assuming we can't exceed the speed of light and I don't see us getting anywhere near close to that speed for a long time to come, maybe never, especially for manned missions. there is just too many hurdles to overcome for that to be realistic anytime in the foreseeable future. but I am sure humanity will keep on pushing the limits, as usual. but there must be a limit that no one can exceed. MCDemuthMaybe I am wrong but I can't see general technology to keep on advancing at that kind of rate as there must be some sort of limit, or point, before advancements slow down quite a bit. or another thing... maybe I am wrong, but I suspect we will have more of a leap between say the last 100 years til today than we will see from today til 100 years from now. but I might be wrong as 100 years is a lot of time in terms of technology as just looking at even the last 20 years or so things have gotten quite a bit faster/more power efficient etc. plus, assuming man comes no where close to the speed of light that's going to limit how far we can even attempt going in the solar system etc especially if your launching from earth and not going from say earth to mars to some other place and I would imagine things would be a lot more fragile with things setup on another planet etc. plus, the longer the trip, the higher the risks I would assume. sure, maybe landing some people on mars is possible, as it does not sound like a huge stretch, but I don't see people (as in any sizable amount of people) colonizing it (or anything else outside of earth) for the foreseeable future as if it does happen I think it's going to take hundreds of years. p.s. a article on how long it takes to get to Mars... www.space.com/24701-how-long-does-it-take-to-get-to-mars.htmlIf we build space stations further and further out, we won't launch from Earth. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 8, 2019 10:47:03 GMT
, NOT going to happen...SORRY!! We may OR may NOT colonize our solar-system ONE DAY...BUT that's IT!!!
WHAT IF there's an INVISIBLE FORCE-FIELD that will PREVENT us from leaving our solar-system?
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 10:49:53 GMT
Because that WILL BE the ABSOLUTE FARTHEST we WILL BE ABLE to GO.
WHAT IF there's an INVISIBLE FORCE-FIELD that will PREVENT us from leaving our solar-system? No. Space stations further and further out from our solar system. And constantly improving technology will allow us to go farther and farther. Eventually we will reach another solar system, star, planets, etc. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 8, 2019 10:53:42 GMT
Because that WILL BE the ABSOLUTE FARTHEST we WILL BE ABLE to GO.
WHAT IF there's an INVISIBLE FORCE-FIELD that will PREVENT us from leaving our solar-system?
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 10:54:39 GMT
No. Space stations further and further out from our solar system. And constantly improving technology will allow us to go farther and farther. Eventually, we will reach another solar system, star, planets, etc...
I believe robots will go first. But humans will follow. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 8, 2019 11:01:05 GMT
I believe that an unmanned vehicle (robot) might go to a planet in another star-system one day...BUT NOT a human.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 8, 2019 11:14:57 GMT
I believe robots will go first. But humans will follow.
Yes, absolutely. Not just mechanical technological advances. But medical science advances too. I see possibly humans with robotic parts. Maybe even all robot with human brains. Also, I think it is already proven that gravity causes aging. Perfectly expected that future generations will be born in outer space. And live all or most of their lives in outer space. |
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