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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 21:20:00 GMT
its time for marvel to get mature and make good cinema. Oh please your idea of 'good cinema' are still in the ballpark of 'McMovies' - features which are intended to mainstream audiences and are easy to find at any cineplex. I find it hilarious that he tries to claim his beloved TDK trilogy and Fox X Men movies are "true cinema". Just because they had political aspects to them.
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Post by thenewnexus on Oct 4, 2019 21:46:45 GMT
You mean get rid of dance offs and forced and cringy humor. Sign me up How can you be against 'cringy humor' when your favorite movie of last year was Venom? Aren't you also a fan of that terrible Spawn movie from 1997? Aren't you a fan of fan the god awful guardians of the galaxy movies?
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Post by thenolan on Oct 4, 2019 21:51:44 GMT
I feel bad for people like DC-Fan, thenewnexus , and thenolan who think Scorsese is somehow praising other kinds of superhero movies like DC or anything FOX-Marvel or Sony-Marvel when he actually isn't and most likely feels just the same with every other kind of superhero movie. If he mentioned any other superhero movies that were not Marvel Studios they'd be upset. Scorsese could have made the comments in 2000, 2002, 2008, 2004, 2005, 2003. He made the comments now in the age of the MCU.
Chances are high he will be a lot kinder to the fox-marvel, sony-marvel or DC movies as they are less immature and are not childish disney crap like MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 22:02:56 GMT
I feel bad for people like DC-Fan, thenewnexus , and thenolan who think Scorsese is somehow praising other kinds of superhero movies like DC or anything FOX-Marvel or Sony-Marvel when he actually isn't and most likely feels just the same with every other kind of superhero movie. If he mentioned any other superhero movies that were not Marvel Studios they'd be upset. Scorsese could have made the comments in 2000, 2002, 2008, 2004, 2005, 2003. He made the comments now in the age of the MCU.
Chances are high he will be a lot kinder to the fox-marvel, sony-marvel or DC movies as they are less immature and are not childish disney crap like MCU.
Well comic book movies weren't as popular back then. The rise in popularity is what's making people who aren't too invested in the dislike the genre. Also I'd like to see your statistics on the chances of him being kinder to Non MCU movies and don't try to claim they're more mature than the average MCU film because the vast majority of them aren't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 22:03:47 GMT
How can you be against 'cringy humor' when your favorite movie of last year was Venom? Aren't you also a fan of that terrible Spawn movie from 1997? Aren't you a fan of fan the god awful guardians of the galaxy movies? The GOTG films are leagues above the likes of Venom.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 4, 2019 22:11:42 GMT
He's right. They feel like pageants, not real stories.
The musical scores are assembly-line quality. The fx sequences feel game-like and micro-managed by executives.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 4, 2019 22:13:01 GMT
Scorsese could have made the comments in 2000, 2002, 2008, 2004, 2005, 2003. He made the comments now in the age of the MCU.
Chances are high he will be a lot kinder to the fox-marvel, sony-marvel or DC movies as they are less immature and are not childish disney crap like MCU.
Well comic book movies weren't as popular back then. The rise in popularity is what's making people who aren't too invested in the dislike the genre. Also I'd like to see your statistics on the chances of him being kinder to Non MCU movies and don't try to claim they're more mature than the average MCU film because the vast majority of them aren't. Most of them are more mature. its Disney, everything about disney is immature. Endgame is immature to DOFP. Far from home is immature to Spiderman 2, Captain marvel is immature to Wonder woman, Iron Man is immature to TDK,
Comic movies are more unpopular now, Scorsese is trashing it because they are actually unpopular. MCU movies are only popular to kids.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 22:16:22 GMT
Well comic book movies weren't as popular back then. The rise in popularity is what's making people who aren't too invested in the dislike the genre. Also I'd like to see your statistics on the chances of him being kinder to Non MCU movies and don't try to claim they're more mature than the average MCU film because the vast majority of them aren't. Most of them are more mature. its Disney, everything about disney is immature. Endgame is immature to DOFP. Far from home is immature to Spiderman 2, Captain marvel is immature to Wonder woman, Iron Man is immature to TDK,
Comic movies are more unpopular now, Scorsese is trashing it because they are actually unpopular. MCU movies are only popular to kids.
Endgame was just as mature as any of the X-Men movies and a great conclusion to the Infinity Saga. Also you didn't provide any clear evidence you just went on your usual shtick of hating on Disney and the MCU.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2019 22:22:46 GMT
How can you be against 'cringy humor' when your favorite movie of last year was Venom? Aren't you also a fan of that terrible Spawn movie from 1997? Aren't you a fan of fan the god awful guardians of the galaxy movies? Those 'god awful' Guardians of the Galaxy movies are up there with Ben-Hur, 2001: A Space Odyssey, the LOTR trilogy and Seven Samurai and *insert hundreds of other titles* if compared to that piece of crap Spawn movie from 1997, which even its star Michael Jai White isn't fond of.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2019 22:23:54 GMT
Aren't you a fan of fan the god awful guardians of the galaxy movies? The GOTG films are leagues above the likes of Venom. And they are lightyears above the likes of Spawn(1997).
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Post by thenolan on Oct 4, 2019 22:25:23 GMT
Most of them are more mature. its Disney, everything about disney is immature. Endgame is immature to DOFP. Far from home is immature to Spiderman 2, Captain marvel is immature to Wonder woman, Iron Man is immature to TDK,
Comic movies are more unpopular now, Scorsese is trashing it because they are actually unpopular. MCU movies are only popular to kids.
Endgame was just as mature as any of the X-Men movies and a great conclusion to the Infinity Saga. Also you didn't provide any clear evidence you just went on your usual shtick of hating on Disney and the MCU. Not even close.
Disney should stand trial for destroying MCU and star wars
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Post by scabab on Oct 4, 2019 22:25:48 GMT
Can you people all just simmer down?
How does a filmmaker giving his own opinion on movies lead to people name calling one another? Just relax, you can agree with him or not but just maintain your composure.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2019 22:27:12 GMT
I feel bad for people like DC-Fan, thenewnexus , and thenolan who think Scorsese is somehow praising other kinds of superhero movies like DC or anything FOX-Marvel or Sony-Marvel when he actually isn't and most likely feels just the same with every other kind of superhero movie. If he mentioned any other superhero movies that were not Marvel Studios they'd be upset. Scorsese could have made the comments in 2000, 2002, 2008, 2004, 2005, 2003. He made the comments now in the age of the MCU.
Chances are high he will be a lot kinder to the fox-marvel, sony-marvel or DC movies as they are less immature and are not childish disney crap like MCU.
He was being asked about the most financially successful franchise in this day which is the Marvel Cinematic Universe and his answer is not directed at it specifically but rather the superhero movie in general, if he were partial to a superhero movie he would have cited one in the interview, genius.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 22:35:00 GMT
Endgame was just as mature as any of the X-Men movies and a great conclusion to the Infinity Saga. Also you didn't provide any clear evidence you just went on your usual shtick of hating on Disney and the MCU. Not even close.
Disney should stand trial for destroying MCU and star wars
Stand trial? Talk about over sensitive. Just because you hate the MCU doesn't mean Disney should stand trial lmao. I hate the sequel trilogy as much as the next Star Wars fan, Not a fan of Holland's Spider-man and Phase 4 doesn't excite me but I don't hate Disney for it. They still gave us Rogue One, Solo and managed to pull off one of the most successful comic book franchises of all time (Even if only a handful are truly great). Also I don't care whether Scorsese likes superhero movies or not it's his opinion. Face it he never specified one so he dislikes the genre as a whole.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2019 22:37:23 GMT
Well comic book movies weren't as popular back then. The rise in popularity is what's making people who aren't too invested in the dislike the genre. Also I'd like to see your statistics on the chances of him being kinder to Non MCU movies and don't try to claim they're more mature than the average MCU film because the vast majority of them aren't. Most of them are more mature. its Disney, everything about disney is immature. Endgame is immature to DOFP. Far from home is immature to Spiderman 2, Captain marvel is immature to Wonder woman, Iron Man is immature to TDK,
Comic movies are more unpopular now, Scorsese is trashing it because they are actually unpopular. MCU movies are only popular to kids.
Scorsese is being specific on the superhero movie as a whole and what he feels as a filmmaker working today where they make up the highest grossing films of the now. If he is partial to other superheroes movies he'd have cited them in the interview. Honestly, Scorsese's comments should not be that surprising as big budget mainstream attention seeking blockbusters are not his niche as a filmmaker, he is much more partial to much more grounded, lower budget, gritty, r-rated, dramas and dark comedies. The most 'commercial friendly' Scorsese has probably been might be with directing Michael Jackon's "Bad", second would be Hugo maybe. Except comic movies ARE popular, that is why he was asked his opinion about them.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 4, 2019 23:26:28 GMT
Speaking of Guardians of the Galaxy...
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 5, 2019 0:21:39 GMT
Well comic book movies weren't as popular back then. The rise in popularity is what's making people who aren't too invested in the dislike the genre. Also I'd like to see your statistics on the chances of him being kinder to Non MCU movies and don't try to claim they're more mature than the average MCU film because the vast majority of them aren't. Most of them are more mature. its Disney, everything about disney is immature. Endgame is immature to DOFP. Far from home is immature to Spiderman 2, Captain marvel is immature to Wonder woman, Iron Man is immature to TDK,
Comic movies are more unpopular now, Scorsese is trashing it because they are actually unpopular. MCU movies are only popular to kids.
This is why people think you are Summers8. The only other person on the planet that can take objective facts like box office, audience scores, and critical scores and come up with the exact opposite conclusion of any sane person. (And just like I had to do with Summers8 let me preempt you. I'm not saying that box office, audience scores, or critical scores are an indicator of quality. The only thing they are an indicator of is popularity with audiences and critics. Also audience scores and critical scores are not objective as they are opinions, but it is an objective fact of what their opinions are based off of their scores as a whole)
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 5, 2019 0:24:15 GMT
Aren't you a fan of fan the god awful guardians of the galaxy movies? Those 'god awful' Guardians of the Galaxy movies are up there with Ben-Hur, 2001: A Space Odyssey, the LOTR trilogy and Seven Samurai and *inset hundreds of other titles* if compared to that piece of crap Spawn movie from 1997, which even its star Michael Jai White isn't fond of. Spawn does have that quality of it's so bad it's actually good though
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Post by sostie on Oct 5, 2019 0:40:26 GMT
I feel bad for people like DC-Fan, thenewnexus , and thenolan who think Scorsese is somehow praising other kinds of superhero movies like DC or anything FOX-Marvel or Sony-Marvel when he actually isn't and most likely feels just the same with every other kind of superhero movie. If he mentioned any other superhero movies that were not Marvel Studios they'd be upset. Scorsese could have made the comments in 2000, 2002, 2008, 2004, 2005, 2003. He made the comments now in the age of the MCU.
Chances are high he will be a lot kinder to the fox-marvel, sony-marvel or DC movies as they are less immature and are not childish disney crap like MCU.
You do realise he talks about the MCU because he was specifically asked about the MCU. As for being a lot kinder well maybe...for one film. The list of his 897 favourite films lists only 1 comic book film...Spider-Man...the only post ET blockbuster on the list. So maybe perhaps he is not a fan of ALL comic book movies, or even blockbusters. Oh, he also has no Nolan films on the list.
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Post by Caesium137 on Oct 5, 2019 0:53:49 GMT
Classy and respectful response from James Gunn. Unlike a lot of butthurt MCU fans on twitter who are losing their minds and attacking Scorsese and his work to no end.
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