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Post by merh on Oct 5, 2019 1:13:55 GMT
Gunn again being his usual twattish self every time he opens his mouth. Really?
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Post by merh on Oct 5, 2019 1:31:45 GMT
He's of course free to his opinion, but it's still a tad narrow minded methinks.
TEXT: “I don’t see them. I tried, you know? But that’s not cinema. Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.” screenrant.com/martin-scorsese-marvel-movies-not-cinema/ How many gangster movies do we need? So nothing made the last half-century
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Post by sdrew13163 on Oct 5, 2019 3:34:11 GMT
I think he’s right, but I think Marvel and all of its fans already knew this. They’re not trying to make artistic masterpieces, they’re going for popcorn fun episodically...like comic books.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 5, 2019 4:00:22 GMT
Those 'god awful' Guardians of the Galaxy movies are up there with Ben-Hur, 2001: A Space Odyssey, the LOTR trilogy and Seven Samurai and *inset hundreds of other titles* if compared to that piece of crap Spawn movie from 1997, which even its star Michael Jai White isn't fond of. Spawn does have that quality of it's so bad it's actually good though The CGI is painfully bad its funny, especially when its set in hell and the unbelievable switch between practical and CG Violator.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 5, 2019 4:34:32 GMT
Spawn does have that quality of it's so bad it's actually good though The CGI is painfully bad its funny, especially when its set in hell and the unbelievable switch between practical and CG Violator. The loop of the background characters in Hell too is about 1.5 secs. So you see 100's of the the same "characters" moving the exact same way on repeat.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 5, 2019 4:56:30 GMT
The CGI is painfully bad its funny, especially when its set in hell and the unbelievable switch between practical and CG Violator. The loop of the background characters in Hell too is about 1.5 secs. So you see 100's of the the same "characters" moving the exact same way on repeat. If you've seen his interview with Collider Michael Jai White he says that the original cut of the film had way less effects shots and hell was mostly a darkly lit environment that relied on dialog to make it nightmarish beyond comprehension, the first cut was also more serious and less action heavy, but the director was given more creative freedom and took into a radically different direction - a lot of the time Jai White didn't even know what he heck was going on! XD
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Post by scabab on Oct 5, 2019 8:41:06 GMT
You know I'm surprised they haven't rebooted Spawn by now.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 5, 2019 8:54:49 GMT
You know I'm surprised they haven't rebooted Spawn by now. Currently in production with Todd Writing and Directing. It's a horror movie low budget.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 5, 2019 8:56:18 GMT
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Post by scabab on Oct 5, 2019 10:02:26 GMT
So that's gonna come out next year?
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 5, 2019 10:54:24 GMT
So that's gonna come out next year? Supposedly. You know nothing is writ in stone with Movies. Especially when it's something like a Cult Character/Movie on a shoe string budget, but I'm hopeful.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Oct 5, 2019 13:01:55 GMT
This is a bit misleading considering he didn’t specifically point out the MCU. He said superhero movies in general. He also didn’t say they were bad... just not his cup of tea. I mean the guy left as producer of Joker. Nobody seemed too outraged at him for that.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 5, 2019 16:45:59 GMT
You mean get rid of dance offs and forced and cringy humor. Sign me up How can you be against 'cringy humor' when your favorite movie of last year was Venom? Aren't you also a fan of that terrible Spawn movie from 1997? Can't forget his favorite character when it comes to cringy humor.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 5, 2019 16:58:30 GMT
He's of course free to his opinion, but it's still a tad narrow minded methinks.
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“I don’t see them. I tried, you know? But that’s not cinema. Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.” screenrant.com/martin-scorsese-marvel-movies-not-cinema/ I don't think he watched a single one. The movies having this is one of the reasons people like them. People actually want to see the interaction between the different personalities of the characters. Some of the best scenes are the characters conveying emotional, psychological experiences with each other.
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Post by Groovy Rachel on Oct 5, 2019 18:22:18 GMT
I don't agree by I see where he's coming from. They can feel like they're rolling off of a mass marketing line a lot of times.
You see something like Joker and that does look unique. The MCU just doesn't have anything like that. Why can't it have a R rated movie for starters.
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Post by dazz on Oct 5, 2019 19:08:50 GMT
I don't agree by I see where he's coming from. They can feel like they're rolling off of a mass marketing line a lot of times. You see something like Joker and that does look unique. The MCU just doesn't have anything like that. Why can't it have a R rated movie for starters. No R rated film has ever earned $b for starters, Antman & The Wasp which is the lesser brand of the MCU right now made as much as the 5th most popular Rated R movie of all time, the highest only grossing barely $800m which is almost $200m lower than the MCU's "average" per film at this point.
Though a R rated MCU film could be the first $ib rated R film it's just a case of money though why bother risking the average nlowering? also they make as much on toys which they wont with a movie only aimed at adults..
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Post by scabab on Oct 5, 2019 20:00:37 GMT
Yeah but what do they intend to do when they make that Blade movie?
If that ends up being PG-13 it may be consistent with all the others but it'd definitely piss people off after how the last movies were. Blade wouldn't work if it wasn't R.
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Post by dazz on Oct 5, 2019 20:16:27 GMT
Yeah but what do they intend to do when they make that Blade movie? If that ends up being PG-13 it may be consistent with all the others but it'd definitely piss people off after how the last movies were. Blade wouldn't work if it wasn't R. Pretty much every MCU film named after a comic event pisses fans off for not being like the comics, and Marvel has continued to increase their annual intake from the movies year after year despite this.
I think they could always change their mind and make Blade into a Marvel Knights or something secondary label for more adult films similar to what DC wants to do with DC Black or Black Label or whatever, if they try to make a PG-13 Blade movie and it just doesn't work they can always just be like ok fuck it R rated and it's no longer in the MCU.
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Post by scabab on Oct 5, 2019 21:56:04 GMT
That's a different kind of pissing people off. Whenever a series has gone from R to PG-13 it's never gone down well and it's not just a comic fan thing.
But it's just unnecessary to boot. Why can't Blade just be R rated? He's not the most CGI heavy character to make the most expensive movie out of.
This Joker movie is R rated and that's just made as much as the last Spider-Man movie on opening day.
There's no reason why there can't be a R rated MCU movie. R rated superhero movies still make a lot of money as Deadpool also proved.
Of course Blade is like Deadpool, he goes around shooting and stabbing people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 0:17:09 GMT
I'm not terribly surprised. Maybe a little that he doesn't get more of a kick out of them, but (like most comic books) they wrap big ideas inside bigger colors and eccentric characters. I think it helps visually arresting movies like the MCU rise above the sum of their parts without being pretentious. If it ain't nice to look at what's the point?
I'm not really surprised considering the MCU doesn't really dabble in pregnant pauses and long takes, or that they're packed to the brim with exposition. They work by their own terms, but the terms are different than Scorsese. A lot of CGI, a lot of green screen, de-aging, etc.
If he said he liked the DCEU over the MCU then I'd be like what the fuck dude.
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