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Post by Wolverine10005 on Jul 30, 2020 17:13:53 GMT
You're lucky. Very lucky. I knew you would say that. What a tool. No man, I'm not fooling you. I'm just stopping you to waste your few brain cells behind a mediocre movie.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Jul 30, 2020 17:14:29 GMT
This is my "new" rule:
Movies titled "X-Men" are absolutely CANON for the Mainstream Cinematic Universe:
X-Men X2: X-Men United X-Men: The Last Stand X-Men Origins: Wolverine X-Men: First Class X-Men: Days of Future Past X-Men: Apocalypse "Dark Phoenix", renamed X-Men: Dark Phoenix for Europe, Asia and video.
Movies titled after a solo character are alternate universes:
The Wolverine (even if, for me, it fits into the Mainstream) Deadpool Logan Deadpool 2
That's it.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 30, 2020 17:16:49 GMT
I knew you would say that. What a tool. No man, I'm not fooling you. I'm just stopping you to waste your few brain cells behind a mediocre movie. "tool" not "fool".
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Jul 30, 2020 17:19:30 GMT
No man, I'm not fooling you. I'm just stopping you to waste your few brain cells behind a mediocre movie. "tool" not "fool". No, no, I meant "fool". I'm not fooling you, my friend. Can't do that, wouldn't be fair to such a weird and awkward person.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 30, 2020 17:21:26 GMT
Lol.
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Post by dazz on Jul 30, 2020 19:02:14 GMT
Now that's just petty, and unoriginal, sadly that's a perfect fit for your dopey arse. Is this English or Sumerian? Were Sumerians bipolar like you too? That said: "Logan" is still an alternate universe. And It's vastly superior to most of the MCU movies, we must confess. Even though apparently Mangold said it's supposed to be in the main timeline? ok dummy whatever you say. Also yeah saying Logan is better than most of the MCU movies is actually dumber than normal, Logan is THE BEST CBM ever imo so it is vastly superior to all other CBM's including the MCU movies, see even when we technically agree on something you are so stupid you some how fuck that up, what a maroon. Oh and still doing the exact same Sumerian and bipolar insult huh, jeez dude get some new material, you know if you stopped spending all your day feltching your neighbours cat well then 2 things, 1: you may make some friends for the first time in your sad little life, 2: you could possibly come up with a more creative insult than the exact same lame idiotic insult you have used god knows how many times already, you creatively bankrupt witless smeg stain, besides if you have trouble understanding the sentence "Now that's just petty, and unoriginal, sadly that's a perfect fit for your dopey arse." you are even dumber than I thought, which considering I believe you are dumb enough to think you can buy a butterflies conscience is remarkably dumb, like too dumb to breathe on your own levels of dumb, you aren't in an iron lung by any chance are you? Anyway later tater I am off to find a more intellectually stimulating conversation, oh look an inanimate object, mission accomplished.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 13:31:28 GMT
Is this English or Sumerian? Were Sumerians bipolar like you too? That said: "Logan" is still an alternate universe. And It's vastly superior to most of the MCU movies, we must confess. Even though apparently Mangold said it's supposed to be in the main timeline? ok dummy whatever you say. Also yeah saying Logan is better than most of the MCU movies is actually dumber than normal, Logan is THE BEST CBM ever imo so it is vastly superior to all other CBM's including the MCU movies, see even when we technically agree on something you are so stupid you some how fuck that up, what a maroon. Oh and still doing the exact same Sumerian and bipolar insult huh, jeez dude get some new material, you know if you stopped spending all your day feltching your neighbours cat well then 2 things, 1: you may make some friends for the first time in your sad little life, 2: you could possibly come up with a more creative insult than the exact same lame idiotic insult you have used god knows how many times already, you creatively bankrupt witless smeg stain, besides if you have trouble understanding the sentence "Now that's just petty, and unoriginal, sadly that's a perfect fit for your dopey arse." you are even dumber than I thought, which considering I believe you are dumb enough to think you can buy a butterflies conscience is remarkably dumb, like too dumb to breathe on your own levels of dumb, you aren't in an iron lung by any chance are you? Anyway later tater I am off to find a more intellectually stimulating conversation, oh look an inanimate object, mission accomplished. But Logan is superior to all the mcu movies and the director of logan gets offended when people compare logan to mcu. Logan is a mature themed film. MCU is more fun Disney kids stuff that make MCU look weak compared to logan. If any MCU movie was as great as Logan than MCU should have been able to make a film like logan in the first place. so people are not dumb. its a sound logic to say logan is superior like many other comic films , superiority comes when you push limits of the boundaries you are in to good effects. any movie that has pushed more limit than MCU factually goes to a superior level. that is what superiority means by definition. Logan fits that by definition.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 14:38:11 GMT
Even though apparently Mangold said it's supposed to be in the main timeline? ok dummy whatever you say. Also yeah saying Logan is better than most of the MCU movies is actually dumber than normal, Logan is THE BEST CBM ever imo so it is vastly superior to all other CBM's including the MCU movies, see even when we technically agree on something you are so stupid you some how fuck that up, what a maroon. Oh and still doing the exact same Sumerian and bipolar insult huh, jeez dude get some new material, you know if you stopped spending all your day feltching your neighbours cat well then 2 things, 1: you may make some friends for the first time in your sad little life, 2: you could possibly come up with a more creative insult than the exact same lame idiotic insult you have used god knows how many times already, you creatively bankrupt witless smeg stain, besides if you have trouble understanding the sentence "Now that's just petty, and unoriginal, sadly that's a perfect fit for your dopey arse." you are even dumber than I thought, which considering I believe you are dumb enough to think you can buy a butterflies conscience is remarkably dumb, like too dumb to breathe on your own levels of dumb, you aren't in an iron lung by any chance are you? Anyway later tater I am off to find a more intellectually stimulating conversation, oh look an inanimate object, mission accomplished. But Logan is superior to all the mcu movies and the director of logan gets offended when people compare logan to mcu. Logan is a mature themed film. MCU is more fun Disney kids stuff that make MCU look weak compared to logan. If any MCU movie was as great as Logan than MCU should have been able to make a film like logan in the first place. so people are not dumb. its a sound logic to say logan is superior like many other comic films , superiority comes when you push limits of the boundaries you are in to good effects. any movie that has pushed more limit than MCU factually goes to a superior level. that is what superiority means by definition. Logan fits that by definition. dazz's point -> <----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 14:50:20 GMT
But Logan is superior to all the mcu movies and the director of logan gets offended when people compare logan to mcu. Logan is a mature themed film. MCU is more fun Disney kids stuff that make MCU look weak compared to logan. If any MCU movie was as great as Logan than MCU should have been able to make a film like logan in the first place. so people are not dumb. its a sound logic to say logan is superior like many other comic films , superiority comes when you push limits of the boundaries you are in to good effects. any movie that has pushed more limit than MCU factually goes to a superior level. that is what superiority means by definition. Logan fits that by definition. dazz's point -> <----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You A person with a master's degree of distinction is superior student to a person who is still in sophomore year getting As. MCU fans ignoring hard facts. if MCU was that great you would not have to ignore fact. lol.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 14:56:53 GMT
dazz's point -> <----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You A person with a master's degree of distinction is superior student to a person who is still in sophomore year getting As. MCU fans ignoring hard facts. if MCU was that great you would not have to ignore fact. lol. Which means jack sh!t in this particular argument.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 15:02:04 GMT
A person with a master's degree of distinction is superior student to a person who is still in sophomore year getting As. MCU fans ignoring hard facts. if MCU was that great you would not have to ignore fact. lol. Which means jack sh!t in this particular argument. FACT: Logan is the true ending of xmen movies in cinema. now and forever. so what now? we have mcu xmen becoming the next Disney star wars? Hated and mocked by fans shill reviews. I will pass
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 15:03:16 GMT
Which means jack sh!t in this particular argument. FACT: Logan is the true ending of xmen movies in cinema. now and forever.
so what now? we have mcu xmen becoming the next Disney star wars? Hated and mocked by fans shill reviews. I will pass And what does that have anything to do with all this? Are you running out of arguments?
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 15:09:36 GMT
FACT: Logan is the true ending of xmen movies in cinema. now and forever.
so what now? we have mcu xmen becoming the next Disney star wars? Hated and mocked by fans shill reviews. I will pass And what does that have anything to do with all this? Are you running out of arguments? if logan is the end, then it is the end to all ends. We know MCU XMEN will be inferior to logan so fans will only treat Logan more as the end the same way they see return of the jedi 1983 as the true ending to star wars.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 15:14:37 GMT
And what does that have anything to do with all this? Are you running out of arguments? if logan is the end, then it is the end to all ends. We know MCU XMEN will be inferior to logan so fans will only treat Logan more as the end the same way they see return of the jedi 1983 as the true ending to star wars. Well, I'm afraid that X-Men series has ended with Dark Phoenix, which is a terrible way to end a film series. And before you say anything, no, I wish Logan was the end of the series just as much as others do.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 15:31:57 GMT
if logan is the end, then it is the end to all ends. We know MCU XMEN will be inferior to logan so fans will only treat Logan more as the end the same way they see return of the jedi 1983 as the true ending to star wars. Well, I'm afraid that X-Men series has ended with Dark Phoenix, which is a terrible way to end a film series. And before you say anything, no, I wish Logan was the end of the series just as much as others do. so the standard for mcu xmen is to be better than dark phoenix? a movie that was slightly better than captain marvel? LMAO. Dark phoenix may have been the last film released with xmen but Logan is still the ending of the timeline. You sound like a star wars fan who is trying to argue that episode 3 not episode 6 is the true ending of star wars. please mcu fans, show more intellectual thinking. just because a prequel movie came later does not make it the ending. Even when new mutants is out and turns our great. I wont call it an ending to the series. the standard is high here
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 15:39:33 GMT
Well, I'm afraid that X-Men series has ended with Dark Phoenix, which is a terrible way to end a film series. And before you say anything, no, I wish Logan was the end of the series just as much as others do. so the standard for mcu xmen is to be better than dark phoenix? a movie that was slightly better than captain marvel? LMAO. Dark phoenix may have been the last film released with xmen but Logan is still the ending of the timeline. You sound like a star wars fan who is trying to argue that episode 3 not episode 6 is the true ending of star wars. please mcu fans, show more intellectual thinking. just because a prequel movie came later does not make it the ending. Even when new mutants is out and turns our great. I wont call it an ending to the series. the standard is high here This whole argument is so idiotic that my head is starting to hurt - physically. First, plenty of MCU films are considered as better than an average X-Men film. For what it's worth, every single X-Men films are better than The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix, and I would say that the best from MCU is at least on par with Logan. Also, the true end of the Star Wars series is The Rise of Skywalker (for now, at least), whether people like it or not, so it's not exactly a comparable situation with/to Dark Phoenix.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 15:55:40 GMT
so the standard for mcu xmen is to be better than dark phoenix? a movie that was slightly better than captain marvel? LMAO. Dark phoenix may have been the last film released with xmen but Logan is still the ending of the timeline. You sound like a star wars fan who is trying to argue that episode 3 not episode 6 is the true ending of star wars. please mcu fans, show more intellectual thinking. just because a prequel movie came later does not make it the ending. Even when new mutants is out and turns our great. I wont call it an ending to the series. the standard is high here This whole argument is so idiotic that my head is starting to hurt - physically. First, plenty of MCU films are considered as better than an average X-Men film. For what it's worth, every single X-Men films are better than The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix, and I would say that the best from MCU is at least on par with Logan. Also, the true end of the Star Wars series is The Rise of Skywalker (for now, at least), whether people like it or not, so it's not exactly a comparable situation with/to Dark Phoenix. yikes, As an MCU fan you would wish that the best mcu is on par with logan but that can never be an objective truth for the factual truth that mcu cant make logan. mcu cant even make DOFP the second best xmen film and this is true with the reaction people have about the film on disney +. to be on par with something means you can replicate it in some way. you not knowing that this is what is idiotic. spoken like a disney fan boy, rise of skywalker is as much of the ending as dark phoenix is.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 16:07:47 GMT
This whole argument is so idiotic that my head is starting to hurt - physically. First, plenty of MCU films are considered as better than an average X-Men film. For what it's worth, every single X-Men films are better than The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix, and I would say that the best from MCU is at least on par with Logan. Also, the true end of the Star Wars series is The Rise of Skywalker (for now, at least), whether people like it or not, so it's not exactly a comparable situation with/to Dark Phoenix. yikes, As an MCU fan you would wish that the best mcu is on par with logan but that can never be an objective truth for the factual truth that mcu cant make logan. mcu cant even make DOFP the second best xmen film and this is true with the reaction people have about the film on disney +. to be on par with something means you can replicate it in some way. you not knowing that this is what is idiotic. spoken like a disney fan boy, rise of skywalker is as much of the ending as dark phoenix is. While some are more objective than others (for instance, there's no doubt that Fant4stic is objectively one of the worst DC/Marvel adaptations of all time), in general, film criticism/critique(?) is subjective, meaning that there would be plenty of people who think Avengers: Endgame is better than Logan and vice versa. Also: "to be on par with something means you can replicate it in some way. you not knowing that this is what is idiotic." ...this is just beyond idiotic. Are you suggesting that in order for an MCU film to be on par with Logan, it has to make a film that looks/feels like Logan?Do you not realize how retarded that sounds like? Not to mention that if MCU did that, you would claim that MCU was so ashamed of itslef that it had to copy Logan. Finally, there's a HUGE difference between The Rise of Skywalker and Dark Phoenix (aside from the former being so much better than the latter). Dark Phoenix is set before Logan while The Rise of Skywalker is clearly set after Return of the Jedi.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 16:33:25 GMT
yikes, As an MCU fan you would wish that the best mcu is on par with logan but that can never be an objective truth for the factual truth that mcu cant make logan. mcu cant even make DOFP the second best xmen film and this is true with the reaction people have about the film on disney +. to be on par with something means you can replicate it in some way. you not knowing that this is what is idiotic. spoken like a disney fan boy, rise of skywalker is as much of the ending as dark phoenix is. While some are more objective than others (for instance, there's no doubt that Fant4stic is objectively one of the worst DC/Marvel adaptations of all time), in general, film criticism/critique(?) is subjective, meaning that there would be plenty of people who think Avengers: Endgame is better than Logan and vice versa. Also: "to be on par with something means you can replicate it in some way. you not knowing that this is what is idiotic." ...this is just beyond idiotic. Are you suggesting that in order for an MCU film to be on par with Logan, it has to make a film that looks/feels like Logan?Do you not realize how retarded that sounds like? Not to mention that if MCU did that, you would claim that MCU was so ashamed of itslef that it had to copy Logan. Finally, there's a HUGE difference between The Rise of Skywalker and Dark Phoenix (aside from the former being so much better than the latter). Dark Phoenix is set before Logan while The Rise of Skywalker is clearly set after Return of the Jedi. Endgame is not even in the same class as Logan. Stop insulting James Mangold. just even for a reason that endgame was shot like a video game movie, while Logan was shot with realism, and that is just one reason. Logan is more art house styled. endgame is giant operate formula. Logan is a drama without the comic book element, endgame is a plot action fil,. Logan was made because the director wanted to make people think, endgame was made for fan to have a blast for fun. this is the same endgame that has fat thor and big CGI fight ending? that is worse and far weaker than another movie like DOFP that had a more serious theme of depression and forgoes the generic comic book stereotype of cgi action but ends more with character drama conflicts like TDK. TDK and DOFP elevate what we expect from comic movies. endgame doesn't. endgame is the generic stereotype. If you truly want to talk about fair critique endgame and mcu would truthfully be the weakest because they are the moat generic and dumbed down films of the bunch. you are right there is a huge difference. rise of skywalker takes place after return of the jedi. dark Phoenix was another prequel to logan. So more in universe prove logan is the ending. LMAO do the maths. DP takes place in 1983. Logan takes place in 2043. Also do you know that even if you have convinced yourself DP is the ending. it will mot erase the fact that people will still measure mcu xmen to Logan or DOFP? that MCU is lagging behind? hm.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 16:52:36 GMT
While some are more objective than others (for instance, there's no doubt that Fant4stic is objectively one of the worst DC/Marvel adaptations of all time), in general, film criticism/critique(?) is subjective, meaning that there would be plenty of people who think Avengers: Endgame is better than Logan and vice versa. Also: "to be on par with something means you can replicate it in some way. you not knowing that this is what is idiotic." ...this is just beyond idiotic. Are you suggesting that in order for an MCU film to be on par with Logan, it has to make a film that looks/feels like Logan?Do you not realize how retarded that sounds like? Not to mention that if MCU did that, you would claim that MCU was so ashamed of itslef that it had to copy Logan. Finally, there's a HUGE difference between The Rise of Skywalker and Dark Phoenix (aside from the former being so much better than the latter). Dark Phoenix is set before Logan while The Rise of Skywalker is clearly set after Return of the Jedi. Endgame is not even in the same class as Logan. Stop insulting James Mangold. just even for a reason that endgame was shot like a video game movie, while Logan was shot with realism, and that is just one reason. Logan is more art house styled. endgame is giant operate formula. Logan is a drama without the comic book element, endgame is a plot action fil,. Logan was made because the director wanted to make people think, endgame was made for fan to have a blast for fun. this is the same endgame that has fat thor and big CGI fight ending? that is worse and far weaker than another movie like DOFP that had a more serious theme of depression and forgoes the generic comic book stereotype of cgi action but ends more with character drama conflicts like TDK. TDK and DOFP elevate what we expect from comic movies. endgame doesn't. endgame is the generic stereotype. If you truly want to talk about fair critique endgame and mcu would truthfully be the weakest because they are the moat generic and dumbed down films of the bunch. you are right there is a huge difference. rise of skywalker takes place after return of the jedi. dark Phoenix was another prequel to logan. So more in universe prove logan is the ending. LMAO do the maths. DP takes place in 1983. Logan takes place in 2043. Also do you know that even if you have convinced yourself DP is the ending. it will mot erase the fact that people will still measure mcu xmen to Logan or DOFP? that MCU is lagging behind? hm. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but James Mangold has some mixed bags in his portfolio like Kate & Leopold or Knight & Day. So because Logan was about realism, it automatically makes it better than Avengers: Endgame? Well then, I guess Love by Gaspar Noe is better than Logan since the former clearly has more realism than the latter. You seem to think that a comic book has to be completely serious in order to be good. Thankfully, Marvel has an answer for that - Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which, if you ask me, has a lot more serious tone than Days of Future Past based on how relevant its theme is. You seriously think Avengers: Endgame is the most generic and dumbed down of the bunch? Do I need to bring up X-Men: Apocalypse, which, by the way, was directed by the very same guy who directed Days of Future Past? And you get an F for your math. Dark Phoenix takes place in 1990s while Logan takes place in 2020s. And your final paragraph(?) is so incomprehensible that I don't know what to tell you about it. Honestly, this seems to be the whole basis of your retarded argument: "Realism is the only thing that matters in comic book films! REALISM! REALISM!! REALISM!!! REALISM!!!! REALISM!!!!! REALISM!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!!!!"
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