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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 17:12:15 GMT
Endgame is not even in the same class as Logan. Stop insulting James Mangold. just even for a reason that endgame was shot like a video game movie, while Logan was shot with realism, and that is just one reason. Logan is more art house styled. endgame is giant operate formula. Logan is a drama without the comic book element, endgame is a plot action fil,. Logan was made because the director wanted to make people think, endgame was made for fan to have a blast for fun. this is the same endgame that has fat thor and big CGI fight ending? that is worse and far weaker than another movie like DOFP that had a more serious theme of depression and forgoes the generic comic book stereotype of cgi action but ends more with character drama conflicts like TDK. TDK and DOFP elevate what we expect from comic movies. endgame doesn't. endgame is the generic stereotype. If you truly want to talk about fair critique endgame and mcu would truthfully be the weakest because they are the moat generic and dumbed down films of the bunch. you are right there is a huge difference. rise of skywalker takes place after return of the jedi. dark Phoenix was another prequel to logan. So more in universe prove logan is the ending. LMAO do the maths. DP takes place in 1983. Logan takes place in 2043. Also do you know that even if you have convinced yourself DP is the ending. it will mot erase the fact that people will still measure mcu xmen to Logan or DOFP? that MCU is lagging behind? hm. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but James Mangold has some mixed bags in his portfolio like Kate & Leopold or Knight & Day. So because Logan was about realism, it automatically makes it better than Avengers: Endgame? Well then, I guess Love by Gaspar Noe is better than Logan since the former clearly has more realism than the latter. You seem to think that a comic book has to be completely serious in order to be good. Thankfully, Marvel has an answer for that - Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which, if you ask me, has a lot more serious tone than Days of Future Past based on how relevant its theme is. You seriously think Avengers: Endgame is the most generic and dumbed down of the bunch? Do I need to bring up X-Men: Apocalypse, which, by the way, was directed by the very same guy who directed Days of Future Past? And you get an F for your math. Dark Phoenix takes place in 1990s while Logan takes place in 2020s. And your final paragraph(?) is so incomprehensible that I don't know what to tell you about it. Honestly, this seems to be the whole basis of your retarded argument: "Realism is the only thing that matters in comic book films! REALISM! REALISM!! REALISM!!! REALISM!!!! REALISM!!!!! REALISM!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!!!!"you sound like a kid throwing a tantrum. winter solider does not have a more serious tone than DOFP even for the basic reason that DOFP is a dystopian drama. winter solider tone is also hindered by the bad cinematography. what is this? DOFP unlike winter solider strives more on characters conflicts than an over plot even though one is there. this is the reason mystique has a personal arc in the film and black widow does not really have any in winter solider. Who is the mystique or two face (tdk) in winter solider?
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 17:22:08 GMT
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but James Mangold has some mixed bags in his portfolio like Kate & Leopold or Knight & Day. So because Logan was about realism, it automatically makes it better than Avengers: Endgame? Well then, I guess Love by Gaspar Noe is better than Logan since the former clearly has more realism than the latter. You seem to think that a comic book has to be completely serious in order to be good. Thankfully, Marvel has an answer for that - Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which, if you ask me, has a lot more serious tone than Days of Future Past based on how relevant its theme is. You seriously think Avengers: Endgame is the most generic and dumbed down of the bunch? Do I need to bring up X-Men: Apocalypse, which, by the way, was directed by the very same guy who directed Days of Future Past? And you get an F for your math. Dark Phoenix takes place in 1990s while Logan takes place in 2020s. And your final paragraph(?) is so incomprehensible that I don't know what to tell you about it. Honestly, this seems to be the whole basis of your retarded argument: "Realism is the only thing that matters in comic book films! REALISM! REALISM!! REALISM!!! REALISM!!!! REALISM!!!!! REALISM!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!!! REALISM!!!!!!!!!!"you sound like a kid throwing a tantrum. winter solider does not have a more serious tone than DOFP even for the basic reason that DOFP is a dystopian drama. winter solider tone is also hindered by the bad cinematography. what is this? DOFP unlike winter solider strives more on characters conflicts than an over plot even though one is there. this is the reason mystique has a personal arc in the film and black widow does not really have any in winter solider. Who is the mystique or two face (tdk) in winter solider? The Winter Soldier is a political thriller that deals with a relevant issue of freedom vs. security. If anything, I think that's more chilling than anything that Days of Future Past deals with. And I don't think the cinematography in that clip is even close to being bad. As far as the shaky cam goes, it's certainly one of the better ones. Besides, it's not like the cinematography in Days of Future Past is perfect. You're also using some pretty lame false equivalence. Captain America: The Winter Soldier centers around Captain America himself and his brainwashed friend. Black Widow is a supporting character in the film, so she's not going to have that much arc when compared to those 2 guys.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 17:36:50 GMT
you sound like a kid throwing a tantrum. winter solider does not have a more serious tone than DOFP even for the basic reason that DOFP is a dystopian drama. winter solider tone is also hindered by the bad cinematography. what is this? DOFP unlike winter solider strives more on characters conflicts than an over plot even though one is there. this is the reason mystique has a personal arc in the film and black widow does not really have any in winter solider. Who is the mystique or two face (tdk) in winter solider? The Winter Soldier is a political thriller that deals with a relevant issue of freedom vs. security. If anything, I think that's more chilling than anything that Days of Future Past deals with. And I don't think the cinematography in that clip is even close to being bad. As far as the shaky cam goes, it's certainly one of the better ones. Besides, it's not like the cinematography in Days of Future Past is perfect. You're also using some pretty lame false equivalence. Captain America: The Winter Soldier centers around Captain America himself and his brainwashed friend. Black Widow is a supporting character in the film, so she's not going to have that much arc when compared to those 2 guys. LOL. it is not more chilling because DOFP deals with racism, prejudice, war, drug abuse, depression and genocide those are gritter themes. DOFP puts that as the focus of the plot and characters conflict. there is nothing in winter solider that is as chilling as seeing multiple dead bodies like trash dumped on the grounds. people in chains sent to death camps. matched to be executed just for been different and the climax of DOFP where a person tries to assassinate the president on the united states on live tv to make his point about civil rights for his kind. DOFP is a film pushed to the extreme. winter solider had the themes but they are derivative and they get hindered fast by the action and mcu formula. The cinematography of DOFP is better. it is sharper and more refined in quality. meh, stop making excuse black widow is no more supporting than mystique, both are main females. infact we can say steve, black widow and falcon are the three main leads like magneto, xavier and mystique except the dofp characters have a complex relationship and personal arc. like i said, who is the two face or mystique in winter solider? no one because the movie does not really have any depth.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 17:48:33 GMT
The Winter Soldier is a political thriller that deals with a relevant issue of freedom vs. security. If anything, I think that's more chilling than anything that Days of Future Past deals with. And I don't think the cinematography in that clip is even close to being bad. As far as the shaky cam goes, it's certainly one of the better ones. Besides, it's not like the cinematography in Days of Future Past is perfect. You're also using some pretty lame false equivalence. Captain America: The Winter Soldier centers around Captain America himself and his brainwashed friend. Black Widow is a supporting character in the film, so she's not going to have that much arc when compared to those 2 guys. LOL. it is not more chilling because DOFP deals with racism, prejudice, war, drug abuse, depression and genocide those are gritter themes. DOFP puts that as the focus of the plot and characters conflict. there is nothing in winter solider that is as chilling as seeing multiple dead bodies like trash dumped on the grounds. people in chains sent to death camps. matched to be executed just for been different and the climax of DOFP where a person tries to assassinate the president on the united states on live tv to make his point about civil rights for his kind. DOFP is a film pushed to the extreme. winter solider had the themes but they are derivative and they get hindered fast by the action and mcu formula. The cinematography of DOFP is better. it is sharper and more refined in quality. meh, stop making excuse black widow is no more supporting than mystique, both are main females. infact we can say steve, black widow and falcon are the three main leads like magneto, xavier and mystique except the dofp characters have a complex relationship and personal arc. like i said, who is the two face or mystique in winter solider? no one because the movie does not really have any depth. It's true that Days of Future Past deals with those themes, but the problem is, previous X-Men films were keep repeating many of those themes over and over again to a point where it started to get somewhat stale, not to mention that some of the themes you've mentioned like war and genocide is somewhat present in The Winter Soldier as well. I mean, have you missed the part where HYDRA was trying to murder 20 million people? And what part of The Winter Soldier is derivative? And why is it so much of a problem that it has a lot of action scenes? Are comic book films not allowed to have a lot of action scenes? Days of Future Past has more "refined" cinematography? I'm sorry, but some of the action scenes take place in such a dark room that I couldn't tell what was happening. The film certainly had great cinematography, but it's far from perfect. Also, you're still relying on false equivalence since Days of Future Past basically revolves around stopping Mystique from killing Trask. The Winter Soldier revolves around Captain America fighting his brainwashed friend pretty much against his will. I don't think that's particularly worse than anything in Days of Future Past. I would say that those guys are Two-Face/Mystique equivalent of The Winter Soldier.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 18:16:26 GMT
LOL. it is not more chilling because DOFP deals with racism, prejudice, war, drug abuse, depression and genocide those are gritter themes. DOFP puts that as the focus of the plot and characters conflict. there is nothing in winter solider that is as chilling as seeing multiple dead bodies like trash dumped on the grounds. people in chains sent to death camps. matched to be executed just for been different and the climax of DOFP where a person tries to assassinate the president on the united states on live tv to make his point about civil rights for his kind. DOFP is a film pushed to the extreme. winter solider had the themes but they are derivative and they get hindered fast by the action and mcu formula. The cinematography of DOFP is better. it is sharper and more refined in quality. meh, stop making excuse black widow is no more supporting than mystique, both are main females. infact we can say steve, black widow and falcon are the three main leads like magneto, xavier and mystique except the dofp characters have a complex relationship and personal arc. like i said, who is the two face or mystique in winter solider? no one because the movie does not really have any depth. It's true that Days of Future Past deals with those themes, but the problem is, previous X-Men films were keep repeating many of those themes over and over again to a point where it started to get somewhat stale, not to mention that some of the themes you've mentioned like war and genocide is somewhat present in The Winter Soldier as well. I mean, have you missed the part where HYDRA was trying to murder 20 million people? And what part of The Winter Soldier is derivative? And why is it so much of a problem that it has a lot of action scenes? Are comic book films not allowed to have a lot of action scenes? Days of Future Past has more "refined" cinematography? I'm sorry, but some of the action scenes take place in such a dark room that I couldn't tell what was happening. The film certainly had great cinematography, but it's far from perfect. Also, you're still relying on false equivalence since Days of Future Past basically revolves around stopping Mystique from killing Trask. The Winter Soldier revolves around Captain America fighting his brainwashed friend pretty much against his will. I don't think that's particularly worse than anything in Days of Future Past. I would say that those guys are Two-Face/Mystique equivalent of The Winter Soldier. NO. DOFP is those themes finally pushed to the extreme. also reason why Singer should left after DOFP. X1 and especially X2 always hinted that the mutant race can be wiped out. DOFP was talking that to the last extreme and having the characters come to terms with that fact even old magneto in dofp experience character development when he realised both mutants and human lost equally. winter solider is derivative compared to a spy thrillers like james bond, the plot was ghastly predictable and the character arcs are average you know its funny you bring up brainwashing since it shows why DOFP is superior, Xavier says mystique was brainwashed by magneto, the only difference is mystique has a mind and will of her own even with some influences. that clashes with xavier trying to bring her back to the right side which creates complex conflict in the film between the two and we see them butting heads. Bucky is a brainwashed mute. he has no will of his own and does not talk so there is no complex dynamic there. he only shows up for action fights scenes. mystique brings a lot of drama. drama is better than action and for comic films elevates it from generics
Also the winter solder is not the two face or mystique and it is sad you dont even know why i brought up those characters. see mystique and two face had a personal vendetta against some people, not the entire world unlike joker and magneto. so their is an extra story there for semi villains. two face was driven mad by the death of his lover, mystique the death of her friends. you understand why they wanted revenge even though they became villains. that was their subplot. there is no character in winter solider with that type of act of being semi villains. winder solider is just a brain washed mute with no story arc or personality. additionally seeing xavier so depressed, suicidal that he starts using drugs and having logan try to make him hope again was worse than anything in winter solder because there was a story there between the xavier and logan. Lastly the cinematography is better. are u kidding me. it uses color well but never forgets that xmen movies were mostly set in a more realistic universe. winter soldier is just bright and dull to look at. the color grading is bad. its not dark room, it making sure your movies don't look like cartoons. something that got worse with endgame and gotg.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Jul 31, 2020 18:26:58 GMT
It's true that Days of Future Past deals with those themes, but the problem is, previous X-Men films were keep repeating many of those themes over and over again to a point where it started to get somewhat stale, not to mention that some of the themes you've mentioned like war and genocide is somewhat present in The Winter Soldier as well. I mean, have you missed the part where HYDRA was trying to murder 20 million people? And what part of The Winter Soldier is derivative? And why is it so much of a problem that it has a lot of action scenes? Are comic book films not allowed to have a lot of action scenes? Days of Future Past has more "refined" cinematography? I'm sorry, but some of the action scenes take place in such a dark room that I couldn't tell what was happening. The film certainly had great cinematography, but it's far from perfect. Also, you're still relying on false equivalence since Days of Future Past basically revolves around stopping Mystique from killing Trask. The Winter Soldier revolves around Captain America fighting his brainwashed friend pretty much against his will. I don't think that's particularly worse than anything in Days of Future Past. I would say that those guys are Two-Face/Mystique equivalent of The Winter Soldier. NO. DOFP is those themes finally pushed to the extreme. also reason why Singer should left after DOFP. X1 and especially X2 always hinted that the mutant race can be wiped out. DOFP was talking that to the last extreme and having the characters come to terms with that fact even old magneto in dofp experience character development when he realised both mutants and human lost equally. winter solider is derivative compared to a spy thrillers like james bond, the plot was ghastly predictable and the character arcs are average you know its funny you bring up brainwashing since it shows why DOFP is superior, Xavier says mystique was brainwashed by magneto, the only difference is mystique has a mind and will of her own even with some influences. that clashes with xavier trying to bring her back to the right side which creates complex conflict in the film between the two and we see them butting heads. Bucky is a brainwashed mute. he has no will of his own and does not talk so there is no complex dynamic there. he only shows up for action fights scenes. mystique brings a lot of drama. drama is better than action and for comic films elevates it from generics
Also the winter solder is not the two face or mystique and it is sad you dont even know why i brought up those characters. see mystique and two face had a personal vendetta against some people, not the entire world unlike joker and magneto. so their is an extra story there for semi villains. two face was driven mad by the death of his lover, mystique the death of her friends. you understand why they wanted revenge even though they became villains. that was their subplot. there is no character in winter solider with that type of act of being semi villains. winder solider is just a brain washed mute with no story arc or personality. additionally seeing xavier so depressed, suicidal that he starts using drugs and having logan try to make him hope again was worse than anything in winter solder because there was a story there between the xavier and logan. Lastly the cinematography is better. are u kidding me. it uses color well but never forgets that xmen movies were mostly set in a more realistic universe. winter soldier is just bright and dull to look at. the color grading is bad. its not dark room, it making sure your movies don't look like cartoons. something that got worse with endgame and gotg. Beautiful post. You're 100% right.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 18:38:25 GMT
It's true that Days of Future Past deals with those themes, but the problem is, previous X-Men films were keep repeating many of those themes over and over again to a point where it started to get somewhat stale, not to mention that some of the themes you've mentioned like war and genocide is somewhat present in The Winter Soldier as well. I mean, have you missed the part where HYDRA was trying to murder 20 million people? And what part of The Winter Soldier is derivative? And why is it so much of a problem that it has a lot of action scenes? Are comic book films not allowed to have a lot of action scenes? Days of Future Past has more "refined" cinematography? I'm sorry, but some of the action scenes take place in such a dark room that I couldn't tell what was happening. The film certainly had great cinematography, but it's far from perfect. Also, you're still relying on false equivalence since Days of Future Past basically revolves around stopping Mystique from killing Trask. The Winter Soldier revolves around Captain America fighting his brainwashed friend pretty much against his will. I don't think that's particularly worse than anything in Days of Future Past. I would say that those guys are Two-Face/Mystique equivalent of The Winter Soldier. NO. DOFP is those themes finally pushed to the extreme. also reason why Singer should left after DOFP. X1 and especially X2 always hinted that the mutant race can be wiped out. DOFP was talking that to the last extreme and having the characters come to terms with that fact even old magneto in dofp experience character development when he realised both mutants and human lost equally. winter solider is derivative compared to a spy thrillers like james bond, the plot was ghastly predictable and the character arcs are average you know its funny you bring up brainwashing since it shows why DOFP is superior, Xavier says mystique was brainwashed by magneto, the only difference is mystique has a mind and will of her own even with some influences. that clashes with xavier trying to bring her back to the right side which creates complex conflict in the film between the two and we see them butting heads. Bucky is a brainwashed mute. he has no will of his own and does not talk so there is no complex dynamic there. he only shows up for action fights scenes. mystique brings a lot of drama. drama is better than action and for comic films elevates it from generics
Also the winter solder is not the two face or mystique and it is sad you dont even know why i brought up those characters. see mystique and two face had a personal vendetta against some people, not the entire world unlike joker and magneto. so their is an extra story there for semi villains. two face was driven mad by the death of his lover, mystique the death of her friends. you understand why they wanted revenge even though they became villains. that was their subplot. there is no character in winter solider with that type of act of being semi villains. winder solider is just a brain washed mute with no story arc or personality. additionally seeing xavier so depressed, suicidal that he starts using drugs and having logan try to make him hope again was worse than anything in winter solder because there was a story there between the xavier and logan. Lastly the cinematography is better. are u kidding me. it uses color well but never forgets that xmen movies were mostly set in a more realistic universe. winter soldier is just bright and dull to look at. the color grading is bad. its not dark room, it making sure your movies don't look like cartoons. something that got worse with endgame and gotg. Are you kidding me? Winter Soldier was Captain America's closest friend! He was basically helping HYDRA to murder 20 million without even knowing! Imagine how Captain America would've felt when he had to fight him in order to stop HYDRA. Your obsessoin with drama really shows and the fact that you're trying to claim that drama is the only thing that matters in comic book film is quite astounding. Tell me, how did your idea of the best comic book film go for Fant4stic? I don't see anything wrong with color choices in The Winter Soldier. I know that it's muted, but given the setting and the tone, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Also, the fact that you're trying to claim that having "dark cinematography" makes it look less like a cartoon is hilarious. If we go by your logic, then AVPR: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem would have some of the best cinematographies of all time since we barely can see anything througout the entire film.
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Post by dazz on Aug 1, 2020 2:16:21 GMT
dazz's point -> <----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You A person with a master's degree of distinction is superior student to a person who is still in sophomore year getting As. MCU fans ignoring hard facts. if MCU was that great you would not have to ignore fact. lol. Who is ignoring facts? except you?
I said Logan is the greatest CBM ever made, which makes it imo the undisputed No.1 cbm of all time, now their can only be 1 undisputed no.1, because if their is 2 then they are not undisputed, as they there for dispute the others claim.
Here is where you, you thicker than 2 short planks moron, you utterly miss the point, Supperhero said Logan is better than MOST MCU movies, which by it's very definition of the word most means he is saying there ARE MCU movies better than Logan, see the point of distinction here yet simpleton?
So why pray tell are you bitching to me about the superiority of Logan over the MCU? when I, you half brained gibbering shit socket, I am the one actually saying it IS THE BEST CMB OF ALL TIME???
Master's degree my arse you are a three times held back 1st year grade school reject, you ignorant fucking dunce.
Here's a bit of advice, as I have shared with Supperhero, shut up, just zip your fucking lips and stop waggling around your dick licker, because every time you speak you show the world how dumb, ignorant, deluded, demented and just all around mentally deficient you truly are, so be quiet and let people just assume you are a dumb shit, you know rather than repeatedly confirm their hypothesis every single time you try to make a point, you clown.
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Post by thenolan on Aug 1, 2020 6:07:54 GMT
NO. DOFP is those themes finally pushed to the extreme. also reason why Singer should left after DOFP. X1 and especially X2 always hinted that the mutant race can be wiped out. DOFP was talking that to the last extreme and having the characters come to terms with that fact even old magneto in dofp experience character development when he realised both mutants and human lost equally. winter solider is derivative compared to a spy thrillers like james bond, the plot was ghastly predictable and the character arcs are average you know its funny you bring up brainwashing since it shows why DOFP is superior, Xavier says mystique was brainwashed by magneto, the only difference is mystique has a mind and will of her own even with some influences. that clashes with xavier trying to bring her back to the right side which creates complex conflict in the film between the two and we see them butting heads. Bucky is a brainwashed mute. he has no will of his own and does not talk so there is no complex dynamic there. he only shows up for action fights scenes. mystique brings a lot of drama. drama is better than action and for comic films elevates it from generics
Also the winter solder is not the two face or mystique and it is sad you dont even know why i brought up those characters. see mystique and two face had a personal vendetta against some people, not the entire world unlike joker and magneto. so their is an extra story there for semi villains. two face was driven mad by the death of his lover, mystique the death of her friends. you understand why they wanted revenge even though they became villains. that was their subplot. there is no character in winter solider with that type of act of being semi villains. winder solider is just a brain washed mute with no story arc or personality. additionally seeing xavier so depressed, suicidal that he starts using drugs and having logan try to make him hope again was worse than anything in winter solder because there was a story there between the xavier and logan. Lastly the cinematography is better. are u kidding me. it uses color well but never forgets that xmen movies were mostly set in a more realistic universe. winter soldier is just bright and dull to look at. the color grading is bad. its not dark room, it making sure your movies don't look like cartoons. something that got worse with endgame and gotg. Are you kidding me? Winter Soldier was Captain America's closest friend! He was basically helping HYDRA to murder 20 million without even knowing! Imagine how Captain America would've felt when he had to fight him in order to stop HYDRA. Your obsessoin with drama really shows and the fact that you're trying to claim that drama is the only thing that matters in comic book film is quite astounding. Tell me, how did your idea of the best comic book film go for Fant4stic? I don't see anything wrong with color choices in The Winter Soldier. I know that it's muted, but given the setting and the tone, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Also, the fact that you're trying to claim that having "dark cinematography" makes it look less like a cartoon is hilarious. If we go by your logic, then AVPR: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem would have some of the best cinematographies of all time since we barely can see anything througout the entire film. so um Bucky was a close friend. but bucky does not talk. so there is no conflict there. he only fights. two face and mystique had a lot to say about the world and how life sucks for them. yes, am obsessed with drama. comic book dramas are superior to action comic book movies. FACT. also reason why no mcu films is on the same level as logan or dofp. they dont have the same level of drama. MCU color grading is bad. their movies always look just white and dull. watch mcu films, they don't even have blue skies. I never said dark cinematography, i said cinematography that knows how to use color better. we are talking of DOFP not AvP. Go back and watch the quicksilver scene or when wolverine wakes up. the cinematography is superior to anything in winter solider. winter solider is bland.
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 1, 2020 6:31:58 GMT
Are you kidding me? Winter Soldier was Captain America's closest friend! He was basically helping HYDRA to murder 20 million without even knowing! Imagine how Captain America would've felt when he had to fight him in order to stop HYDRA. Your obsessoin with drama really shows and the fact that you're trying to claim that drama is the only thing that matters in comic book film is quite astounding. Tell me, how did your idea of the best comic book film go for Fant4stic? I don't see anything wrong with color choices in The Winter Soldier. I know that it's muted, but given the setting and the tone, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Also, the fact that you're trying to claim that having "dark cinematography" makes it look less like a cartoon is hilarious. If we go by your logic, then AVPR: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem would have some of the best cinematographies of all time since we barely can see anything througout the entire film. so um Bucky was a close friend. but bucky does not talk. so there is no conflict there. he only fights. two face and mystique had a lot to say about the world and how life sucks for them. yes, am obsessed with drama. comic book dramas are superior to action comic book movies. FACT. also reason why no mcu films is on the same level as logan or dofp. they dont have the same level of drama. MCU color grading is bad. their movies always look just white and dull. watch mcu films, they don't even have blue skies. I never said dark cinematography, i said cinematography that knows how to use color better. we are talking of DOFP not AvP. Go back and watch the quicksilver scene or when wolverine wakes up. the cinematography is superior to anything in winter solider. winter solider is bland. So because Bucky doesn't talk, there's no conflict revolving around him at all? Are you making retarded responses on purpose? I'm sorry, but just because a dramatic film works for certain comic book material doesn't mean that it works for everything else. Why else do you think Fant4stic floundered so horrendously? MCU films have no blue skies? Then how do you explain... this?: I'm not going to talk anymore about cinematography because you're practically a broken record at this point. You obviously think the formula that worked for Days of Future Past is going to work for every single materials. Guess what, buddy. It doesn't.
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Post by thenolan on Aug 1, 2020 12:27:33 GMT
so um Bucky was a close friend. but bucky does not talk. so there is no conflict there. he only fights. two face and mystique had a lot to say about the world and how life sucks for them. yes, am obsessed with drama. comic book dramas are superior to action comic book movies. FACT. also reason why no mcu films is on the same level as logan or dofp. they dont have the same level of drama. MCU color grading is bad. their movies always look just white and dull. watch mcu films, they don't even have blue skies. I never said dark cinematography, i said cinematography that knows how to use color better. we are talking of DOFP not AvP. Go back and watch the quicksilver scene or when wolverine wakes up. the cinematography is superior to anything in winter solider. winter solider is bland. So because Bucky doesn't talk, there's no conflict revolving around him at all? Are you making retarded responses on purpose? I'm sorry, but just because a dramatic film works for certain comic book material doesn't mean that it works for everything else. Why else do you think Fant4stic floundered so horrendously? MCU films have no blue skies? Then how do you explain... this?: I'm not going to talk anymore about cinematography because you're practically a broken record at this point. You obviously think the formula that worked for Days of Future Past is going to work for every single materials. Guess what, buddy. It doesn't. its was retarded to try and argue bucky has the same character arc as mystique or two face. lol F4 may have founded but at least we can say it was a bad film. that is still better than mcu that are not called films but theme parks. many great directors have bad films. their movies mostly don't have blue skies. that one is a rare. the formula that worked for DOFP worked because DOFP is actually a film. MCU movies are more manufactured products.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Aug 1, 2020 17:19:44 GMT
So because Bucky doesn't talk, there's no conflict revolving around him at all? Are you making retarded responses on purpose? I'm sorry, but just because a dramatic film works for certain comic book material doesn't mean that it works for everything else. Why else do you think Fant4stic floundered so horrendously? MCU films have no blue skies? Then how do you explain... this?: I'm not going to talk anymore about cinematography because you're practically a broken record at this point. You obviously think the formula that worked for Days of Future Past is going to work for every single materials. Guess what, buddy. It doesn't. its was retarded to try and argue bucky has the same character arc as mystique or two face. lol F4 may have founded but at least we can say it was a bad film. that is still better than mcu that are not called films but theme parks. many great directors have bad films. their movies mostly don't have blue skies. that one is a rare. the formula that worked for DOFP worked because DOFP is actually a film. MCU movies are more manufactured products. TheNolan, you nailed it. Absolutely true, but fanboys are gonna deny it. They are the first ones to buy the action figures and don't care for the content...
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Post by blockbusted on Aug 1, 2020 19:10:08 GMT
So because Bucky doesn't talk, there's no conflict revolving around him at all? Are you making retarded responses on purpose? I'm sorry, but just because a dramatic film works for certain comic book material doesn't mean that it works for everything else. Why else do you think Fant4stic floundered so horrendously? MCU films have no blue skies? Then how do you explain... this?: I'm not going to talk anymore about cinematography because you're practically a broken record at this point. You obviously think the formula that worked for Days of Future Past is going to work for every single materials. Guess what, buddy. It doesn't. its was retarded to try and argue bucky has the same character arc as mystique or two face. lol F4 may have founded but at least we can say it was a bad film. that is still better than mcu that are not called films but theme parks. many great directors have bad films. their movies mostly don't have blue skies. that one is a rare. the formula that worked for DOFP worked because DOFP is actually a film. MCU movies are more manufactured products. Perhaps it's not him, but what about Captain America? I'm pretty sure he would've felt devastated about the idea of killing his friend in order to stop HYDRA if necessary. Great director? Josh Trank? I'm sorry, but based on how Capone is doing with critics AND audience, Trank only got lucky with Chronicle, and if what I've heard is true, the film being a found footage is a result of editors trying to salvage the film because Trank was so terrible at his job. So according to you, only dramas should be considered as films?
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Post by dazz on Aug 1, 2020 20:18:18 GMT
its was retarded to try and argue bucky has the same character arc as mystique or two face. lol F4 may have founded but at least we can say it was a bad film. that is still better than mcu that are not called films but theme parks. many great directors have bad films. their movies mostly don't have blue skies. that one is a rare. the formula that worked for DOFP worked because DOFP is actually a film. MCU movies are more manufactured products. TheNolan, you nailed it. Absolutely true, but fanboys are gonna deny it. They are the first ones to buy the action figures and don't care for the content... Says the "man" who thinks Origins is a good movie, lmfao what a maroon.
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Post by dazz on Aug 1, 2020 20:23:39 GMT
its was retarded to try and argue bucky has the same character arc as mystique or two face. lol F4 may have founded but at least we can say it was a bad film. that is still better than mcu that are not called films but theme parks. many great directors have bad films. their movies mostly don't have blue skies. that one is a rare. the formula that worked for DOFP worked because DOFP is actually a film. MCU movies are more manufactured products. Perhaps it's not him, but what about Captain America? I'm pretty sure he would've felt devastated about the idea of killing his friend in order to stop HYDRA if necessary. Great director? Josh Trank? I'm sorry, but based on how Capone is doing with critics AND audience, Trank only got lucky with Chronicle, and if what I've heard is true, the film being a found footage is a result of editors trying to salvage the film because Trank was so terrible at his job. So according to you, only dramas should be considered as films? Well if so according to him "films" aren't manufactured products, go figure, someone should tell that to the 1000;s of people who worked on it that they didn't infact make anything, so weird they wasted all that time just for these movies to magically appear out of thin air by some kind of magic, but even so is magic not just another manner in which to manufacture something when we get down to it? lmao.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 3, 2020 14:24:06 GMT
I disagree about the wig in the first film. Looked very bad. Sorry not sorry. That's your personal opinion. I respect everyone. Even who claims that "Black Panther" is truly an Oscar-deserving drama about racial rights LMAO. Well... Nobody is perfect, right? Bryan Singer's Traumatic 'X-Men' Set: The Movie
Now we both have something to "LMAO" about, right? And, by LMAO, I mean trying to keep from hurling. Disgusting and inexcusable... If this is what the Fox X-Men film legacy is built on, you can keep it. Enjoy.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Aug 6, 2020 23:02:38 GMT
That's your personal opinion. I respect everyone. Even who claims that "Black Panther" is truly an Oscar-deserving drama about racial rights LMAO. Well... Nobody is perfect, right? Bryan Singer's Traumatic 'X-Men' Set: The Movie
Now we both have something to "LMAO" about, right? And, by LMAO, I mean trying to keep from hurling. Disgusting and inexcusable... If this is what the Fox X-Men film legacy is built on, you can keep it. Enjoy. LMAO. The legacy of the FOX X-Men is built upon real movies with real scripts and artistic integrity. We're not talking about formulaic Disney superhero movies aimed at selling merchandise.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 6, 2020 23:33:56 GMT
Well... Nobody is perfect, right? Bryan Singer's Traumatic 'X-Men' Set: The Movie
Now we both have something to "LMAO" about, right? And, by LMAO, I mean trying to keep from hurling. Disgusting and inexcusable... If this is what the Fox X-Men film legacy is built on, you can keep it. Enjoy. LMAO. The legacy of the FOX X-Men is built upon real movies with real scripts and artistic integrity. We're not talking about formulaic Disney superhero movies aimed at selling merchandise. ROTFLMAOF!! Yes there is a rich legacy of unprofessional conduct, drug-fueled binges, toxic narcissism and child exploitation. LMAO! Hee hee hee... LMOA!! Ha ha ha... so funny.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Aug 9, 2020 12:18:28 GMT
Everyone pretty much knows that truth hurts the MCU nerds. It's a cosmic hurt, you know. Universal.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 9, 2020 18:33:44 GMT
Everyone pretty much knows that truth hurts the MCU nerds. It's a cosmic hurt, you know. Universal. ROTFLMAOF!! It's so funny!
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