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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 24, 2017 9:46:22 GMT
Theon, Theon, Theon. You yellow bastard.
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Post by sdm3 on Jul 24, 2017 13:34:17 GMT
Much better episode, big improvement over the premiere. Does everything you could want from an episode at the beginning of the endgame, even trimming the unnecessary characters (so long, Sand Snakes and Yara). Long awaited meetings (Daenerys and Melisandre!) and setting up even more highly awaited meetings (Daenerys and Jon Snow!), reunions (Hot Pie! Nymeria!), it did a much better job at emphasizing that the end is nigh. Really good stuff with Sam and Jorah too. Everything's moving at a ridiculously fast pace but with so few episodes left, that's only to be expected.
Shame about the Grey Worm/Missandei scene.
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Post by marsexplorer on Jul 24, 2017 16:27:50 GMT
Theon, Theon, Theon. You yellow bastard. Having never read the books I must say I never saw that one coming.
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Post by marsexplorer on Jul 24, 2017 16:38:32 GMT
Much better episode, big improvement over the premiere. Does everything you could want from an episode at the beginning of the endgame, even trimming the unnecessary characters (so long, Sand Snakes and Yara). Long awaited meetings (Daenerys and Melisandre!) and setting up even more highly awaited meetings (Daenerys and Jon Snow!), reunions (Hot Pie! Nymeria!), it did a much better job at emphasizing that the end is nigh. Really good stuff with Sam and Jorah too. Everything's moving at a ridiculously fast pace but with so few episodes left, that's only to be expected. Shame about the Grey Worm/Missandei scene. It did do a very good job of setting up the craziness to come. What didn't you like about the Grey Worm/Missandei scene. I liked it, we found that Grey Worm isn't the emotionless lump that he seemed to be. With the invasion of King's landing now a disaster I wonder what Tyrion will come up with next.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 24, 2017 18:29:37 GMT
Theon, Theon, Theon. You yellow bastard. Having never read the books I must say I never saw that one coming. The books and the movies are two different things. If I remember, at the end of A Dance With Dragons, Theon is being held captive by very much alive Stannis Baratheon. He was reunited with his sister (named Asha) in the books). Its getting to be like The Shining
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 24, 2017 18:41:30 GMT
It was all ruined by Euron and his utterly ridiculous plot armour.
First the fleet out of thin air, now he is Wolverines...no matter how often you stab him, he won't show a sign of effect.
and btw: in WWI the Britons and Germans ceased their actions (=> battle of Jutland) when the darkness set in, but they find and found a fleet in the middle of nowhere in the darkness of the night.
2/10
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Post by marco26 on Jul 24, 2017 21:16:34 GMT
First the fleet out of thin air, Uhh, I suggest you Google something called Pearl Harbor. Most people have heard of it...you clearly haven't. The short of it is that a Japanese attack group -- an assorted fleet of 29 ships -- made it all the way from the Japanese islands to the Hawaiian islands unseen. In other words they appeared out of thin air.
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Post by sdm3 on Jul 24, 2017 21:58:45 GMT
Having never read the books I must say I never saw that one coming. The books and the movies are two different things. If I remember, at the end of A Dance With Dragons, Theon is being held captive by very much alive Stannis Baratheon. He was reunited with his sister (named Asha) in the books). Its getting to be like The Shining It's not that the show is different from the books (though it is) but more that the story of the show has gone far beyond the story of the books. This stuff with Theon may well end up happening in the books if Martin ever finishes writing them.
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Post by sdm3 on Jul 24, 2017 22:00:28 GMT
Much better episode, big improvement over the premiere. Does everything you could want from an episode at the beginning of the endgame, even trimming the unnecessary characters (so long, Sand Snakes and Yara). Long awaited meetings (Daenerys and Melisandre!) and setting up even more highly awaited meetings (Daenerys and Jon Snow!), reunions (Hot Pie! Nymeria!), it did a much better job at emphasizing that the end is nigh. Really good stuff with Sam and Jorah too. Everything's moving at a ridiculously fast pace but with so few episodes left, that's only to be expected. Shame about the Grey Worm/Missandei scene. It did do a very good job of setting up the craziness to come. What didn't you like about the Grey Worm/Missandei scene. I liked it, we found that Grey Worm isn't the emotionless lump that he seemed to be. With the invasion of King's landing now a disaster I wonder what Tyrion will come up with next. You know on second thought, you're right, that scene wasn't really that bad. It was actually surprisingly tender rather than typically gratuitous.
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 24, 2017 22:31:49 GMT
I think Samwell Tarly is done. He's found the dragon glass, and he's about to heal Ser Jorah, and you could argue that's the end of his purpose.
I don't think it was for shits and giggles that the archmaester mentioned how the maester who came up with the greyscale cure died of greyscale himself. Every scene and line of dialog in this series serves a purpose.
The only real unfinished business with Samwell is his stolen Valyrian sword.
Jon Snow leaving Littlefinger alive, in Winterfell, where he can whisper in Sansa's ear like Wormtongue...what a Ned Stark move. That's going to come back to bite him in the ass big time. In fact, the way Jon Snow grabbed LF and choked him was EXACTLY the way Ned did the same thing all the way back in S1 when LF brought him to one of the brothels and said, "Your wife is here..."
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Post by mangekyoalleluia on Jul 24, 2017 22:41:30 GMT
Theon running again made me laugh but hey, reality, what would most people do in that situation? Anyway things are moving pretty quicky, Jon to meet Dany next!
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Post by sdm3 on Jul 24, 2017 23:19:16 GMT
Demands for episode 3: Bronn.
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Post by orlandogardner on Jul 24, 2017 23:51:55 GMT
I think Samwell Tarly is done. He's found the dragon glass, and he's about to heal Ser Jorah, and you could argue that's the end of his purpose. I don't think it was for shits and giggles that the archmaester mentioned how the maester who came up with the greyscale cure died of greyscale himself. Every scene and line of dialog in this series serves a purpose. The only real unfinished business with Samwell is his stolen Valyrian sword. Jon Snow leaving Littlefinger alive, in Winterfell, where he can whisper in Sansa's ear like Wormtongue...what a Ned Stark move. That's going to come back to bite him in the ass big time. In fact, the way Jon Snow grabbed LF and choked him was EXACTLY the way Ned did the same thing all the way back in S1 when LF brought him to one of the brothels and said, "Your wife is here..." Sam is obviously gonna be the author of The Song of Ice and Fire, that was heavily suggested in this episode. As for the rest of the show. It is quite clear now that the quality of the show has taken a nosedive since they have run out of source material. Yes, it is still an incredibly well produced show and they do handle the small character driven moments and large scale spectacle very well. However, the plotting is gone completely to shit. Just look at the godawful Euron and everything he's been involved with in the last couple of episodes. The show writers had been following Martins complex and detailed work for 4ish seasons but once they have had nothing to follow they have become lost. Now they are busy trying to quickly and clumsily bring the disparate threads of the story together and its a bit of a shambles.
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 25, 2017 14:27:13 GMT
First the fleet out of thin air, Uhh, I suggest you Google something called Pearl Harbor. Most people have heard of it...you clearly haven't. The short of it is that a Japanese attack group -- an assorted fleet of 29 ships -- made it all the way from the Japanese islands to the Hawaiian islands unseen. In other words they appeared out of thin air. They don't. The British reported the fleet and the radar facility on Hawaii had detected them too... But you you utterly stupid fuck didn't get the point: I didn't say out of the blue but of thin air for the Iron islands are barren islands, sparsely populated, decades of economic demise after the failed rebellion, depleted resources and manpower due to the campaign against the Bolton, the best ships and men gone with Yara and Theon. The battle itself - with the technology of that era - would hardly be fought in the pitch black of night. Read more: imdb2.freeforums.net/user/437/recent#ixzz4nqyJDw4y
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 25, 2017 14:31:24 GMT
I think Samwell Tarly is done. He's found the dragon glass, and he's about to heal Ser Jorah, and you could argue that's the end of his purpose. I don't think it was for shits and giggles that the archmaester mentioned how the maester who came up with the greyscale cure died of greyscale himself. Every scene and line of dialog in this series serves a purpose. The only real unfinished business with Samwell is his stolen Valyrian sword. Jon Snow leaving Littlefinger alive, in Winterfell, where he can whisper in Sansa's ear like Wormtongue...what a Ned Stark move. That's going to come back to bite him in the ass big time. In fact, the way Jon Snow grabbed LF and choked him was EXACTLY the way Ned did the same thing all the way back in S1 when LF brought him to one of the brothels and said, "Your wife is here..." You can't kill one of the most prominent Lords of the Vale, more so without proper cause. Littlefinger is also the one the pulls the strings of sweet Robin; and the North needs the army and the support of the Vale.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 25, 2017 16:19:35 GMT
Uhh, I suggest you Google something called Pearl Harbor. Most people have heard of it...you clearly haven't. The short of it is that a Japanese attack group -- an assorted fleet of 29 ships -- made it all the way from the Japanese islands to the Hawaiian islands unseen. In other words they appeared out of thin air. They don't. The British reported the fleet and the radar facility on Hawaii had detected them too... But you you utterly stupid fuck didn't get the point: I didn't say out of the blue but of thin air for the Iron islands are barren islands, sparsely populated, decades of economic demise after the failed rebellion, depleted resources and manpower due to the campaign against the Bolton, the best ships and men gone with Yara and Theon. The battle itself - with the technology of that era - would hardly be fought in the pitch black of night. Read more: imdb2.freeforums.net/user/437/recent#ixzz4nqyJDw4yThe map shows that the narrow sea from Dragonstone to Dorne, where they were heading, is very small and you can pretty much only go one direction. If he knew they were at Dragonstone, it wouldn't be too hard to figure out where they would be. Night gives them the element of surprise.
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Post by marco26 on Jul 25, 2017 18:01:49 GMT
Uhh, I suggest you Google something called Pearl Harbor. Most people have heard of it...you clearly haven't. The short of it is that a Japanese attack group -- an assorted fleet of 29 ships -- made it all the way from the Japanese islands to the Hawaiian islands unseen. In other words they appeared out of thin air. The British reported the fleet and the radar facility on Hawaii had detected them too...What the hell are you blabbing about??? Friggin' Donald Trump is a historian scholar compared to you. Uhh, the British reported the Japanese fleet heading to Pearl Harbor??? Uhh, the British themselves got surprised and their ass whooped on Pearl Harbor day, moron. Look up Malaya, December 7/8 1941. The Brits did see a Japanese attack group -- one that was heading their way, not to Hawaii. And like typical Brits they did nothing about it...and a few hours later got their asses cooked. Radar facility on Hawaii spotted the Japanese fleet??? Uhh, that radar station spotted the AIR fleet, moron. The attacking planes which were minutes away from the Harbor. Hey, kid, maybe you should stop watching GAME OF THRONES for your history information. It is a fictional TV show, you know.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 25, 2017 18:08:02 GMT
What the hell are you blabbing about??? Uhh, the British reported the Japanese fleet heading to Pearl Harbor??? Radar facility on Hawaii spotted the Japanese fleet???
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Post by xystophoros on Jul 25, 2017 19:10:35 GMT
I think Samwell Tarly is done. He's found the dragon glass, and he's about to heal Ser Jorah, and you could argue that's the end of his purpose. I don't think it was for shits and giggles that the archmaester mentioned how the maester who came up with the greyscale cure died of greyscale himself. Every scene and line of dialog in this series serves a purpose. The only real unfinished business with Samwell is his stolen Valyrian sword. Jon Snow leaving Littlefinger alive, in Winterfell, where he can whisper in Sansa's ear like Wormtongue...what a Ned Stark move. That's going to come back to bite him in the ass big time. In fact, the way Jon Snow grabbed LF and choked him was EXACTLY the way Ned did the same thing all the way back in S1 when LF brought him to one of the brothels and said, "Your wife is here..." You can't kill one of the most prominent Lords of the Vale, more so without proper cause. Littlefinger is also the one the pulls the strings of sweet Robin; and the North needs the army and the support of the Vale. Lord Yohn Royce would be a much better leader of the Vale's army than Littlefinger. He'd be loyal to a fault, he wouldn't scheme behind Jon's back, he wouldn't try to get into Sansa's head, and he would follow orders. With LF, who's to say he doesn't decide to cut his losses and throw in his lot with Cersei? LF doesn't care about the White Walkers and I doubt he believes Jon and the Wildlings. He cares only about his personal advancement. If Sansa keeps brushing him off and he concludes there's no longer any advantage to allying with the Starks, he could take his Knights of the Vale and ride off...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 11:29:02 GMT
That's a fair presumption and will probably be the trigger of his inevitable, early "departure" i.e. demise. I don't see his "whispers" in Sansa's ear having any effect in Jon's absence. Her harsh rebuttal towards his advances last week made it clear that she is now too clever for that to happen. Plus, Brienne is also there to (try and) keep her safe(ish). Littlefinger's comeuppance will surely come soon and I think that it will rather happen this than next season. Probably by Sansa, as this would be the ultimate (and deserved) way to go for him, given his love for Catelyn and love/lust for Sansa being a prime driver of his scheming. Maybe she'll beat him at his game and end up "stealing" his army or getting them to turn against him, before killing or getting him killed.
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