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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 3:57:02 GMT
I just saw Ragnarok for the 2nd time, and all of the plot development and humor works even better the second time. Specifically with the humor, I don't mean that you laugh more, but that the lines work as lines of dialogue. They are things that would happen, and things that those characters would say, and that is when humor works best, when it's real, and it still sounds good even after you've heard it 100x and the laugh value has faded.
I loved this film even more the second time. I love the Matt Damon and Sam Neil cameos. I loved the Ares and Beta Ray statues. I love how Heimdal was absolutely crucial in stalling Hellas attempt to wreak havoc, as he's the only reason she didn't go around destroying everything before Thor got back to stop her.
I definitely encourage you to go check it out again. My theater was virtually full on a Tuesday.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 10:23:05 GMT
It will make good money until Justice arrives.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 8, 2017 10:29:38 GMT
Wow what a desperate attempt at shiling.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 10:44:21 GMT
Wow what a desperate attempt at shiling. I’m not shilling but I’ll tell you near my work is a basketball half court which teenagers play at. They’re between the ages of 18-25. Seem to be tradesman who hang out after work shooting hoops, with their commercial vehicles parked close by. Well I just overheard them talking about Thor glowingly. ‘It sucks that he cut his hair but I hear that’s what Chris Hemsworth...’. And it’s not the first time I’ve heard people talking about Ragnarok. The point is that the last time I experienced this was with a little piece of crap named Avatar. Just saying. I think Thor could do 900m or more.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 10:46:43 GMT
Wow what a desperate attempt at shiling. I’m not shilling but I’ll tell you near my work is a basketball half court which teenagers play at. They’re between the ages of 18-25. Seem to be tradesman who hang out after work shooting hoops, with their commercial vehicles parked close by. Well I just overheard them talking about Thor glowingly. ‘It sucks that he cut his hair but I hear that’s what Chris Hemsworth...’. And it’s not the first time I’ve heard people talking about Ragnarok. The point is that the last time I experienced this was with a little piece of crap named Avatar. Just saying. I think Thor could do 900m or more. Anyway they^ may sound like the gayest fuckers around but for that young generation the MCU actually has street cred. Pretty crazy but quite true.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 8, 2017 10:51:12 GMT
Wow what a desperate attempt at shiling. Should we thank him for the encouragement to go see it again? i feel i was lacking the courage to see it again
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 8, 2017 10:53:32 GMT
I’m not shilling but I’ll tell you near my work is a basketball half court which teenagers play at. They’re between the ages of 18-25. Seem to be tradesman who hang out after work shooting hoops, with their commercial vehicles parked close by. Well I just overheard them talking about Thor glowingly. ‘It sucks that he cut his hair but I hear that’s what Chris Hemsworth...’. And it’s not the first time I’ve heard people talking about Ragnarok. The point is that the last time I experienced this was with a little piece of crap named Avatar. Just saying. I think Thor could do 900m or more. Anyway they^ may sound like the gayest fuckers around but for that young generation the MCU actually has street cred. Pretty crazy but quite true. dude i was obviously not referring to you but to the sorry op and the last paragraph yuk🤢He is so desperate and dumb a shill fanboy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 10:59:37 GMT
Anyway they^ may sound like the gayest fuckers around but for that young generation the MCU actually has street cred. Pretty crazy but quite true. dude i was obviously not referring to you but to the sorry op and the last paragraph yuk🤢He is so desperate and dumb a shill fanboy He probably erupted in his Thor branded jocks in the cinema but Arf Arf is ok. Just wants to marry the MCU, that’s all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 11:00:16 GMT
Wow what a desperate attempt at shiling. Should we thank him for the encouragement to go see it again? i feel i was lacking the courage to see it again Did you like it Mike?
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Post by miike80 on Nov 8, 2017 11:07:49 GMT
Should we thank him for the encouragement to go see it again? i feel i was lacking the courage to see it again Did you like it Mike? Not that much, to be honest.. i mean, there's some things i liked but not that much. Certainly would not bother going to cinema to watch it again. Ps: it's not Mike, it's Miike as in Takashi Miike
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 11:15:16 GMT
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Post by charzhino on Nov 8, 2017 11:34:15 GMT
Disagree. I think there was too much emphasis placed on the humor. Usually in a film, there are 1 or 2 comedic relief characters that serve as the tension relievers. In Ragnarok, everyone had some form of comedic input which is totally unnecessary (unless you are making a comedy film which this is in disguise of a superhero film). Korgs lines are funny and so are most of Thors. But nope, Disney has to give Valkiry, Grandmaster, Banner, even Hela some sort of gag. And on top make Thor look like a dithering bufoon when handling Stranges ornaments and screaming like a girl at getting his haircut (real cringey and eye rolling moments). Just removing 50% of the humor and replacing it with some better character and/or action would have taken nothing away from the "fun" aspect of Ragnarok.
And I have seen it twice.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 8, 2017 11:39:26 GMT
Wow what a desperate attempt at shiling. Should we thank him for the encouragement to go see it again? i feel i was lacking the courage to see it again no I get these rallying calls with little films trying to survive commercially arthouse and such But this is a commercialized Mainstream comedy movie pandering to the lowest common denominator by parodying itself and the mythological source materials. Fanboy shilling for that trash having made already too much is just pathetic arf arf style.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 8, 2017 11:42:49 GMT
Should we thank him for the encouragement to go see it again? i feel i was lacking the courage to see it again no I get these rallying calls with little films trying to survive commercially arthouse and such But this is a commercialized Mainstream comedy movie pandering to the lowest common denominator by parodying itself and the mythological source materials. Fanboy shilling for that trash having made already too much is just pathetic arf arf style. i definitely get that with smaller films, like Hell or High Water, or even big budget films that are not made for the lowest common denominator .Blade Runner 2049 is a perfect example of that
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Post by miike80 on Nov 8, 2017 11:48:26 GMT
Disagree. I think there was too much emphasis placed on the humor. Usually in a film, there are 1 or 2 comedic relief characters that serve as the tension relievers. In Ragnarok, everyone had some form of comedic input which is totally unnecessary (unless you are making a comedy film which this is in disguise of a superhero film). Korgs lines are funny and so are most of Thors. But nope, Disney has to give Valkiry, Grandmaster, Banner, even Hela some sort of gag. And on top make Thor look like a dithering bufoon when handling Stranges ornaments and screaming like a girl at getting his haircut (real cringey and eye rolling moments). Just removing 50% of the humor and replacing it with some better character and/or action would have taken nothing away from the "fun" aspect of Ragnarok. And I have seen it twice. Have you tried seeing it 5 times in theaters? it gets really good
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 8, 2017 11:51:14 GMT
no I get these rallying calls with little films trying to survive commercially arthouse and such But this is a commercialized Mainstream comedy movie pandering to the lowest common denominator by parodying itself and the mythological source materials. Fanboy shilling for that trash having made already too much is just pathetic arf arf style. i definitely get that with smaller films, like Hell or High Water, or even big budget films that are not made for the lowest common denominator .Blade Runner 2049 is a perfect example of that intelligent adult blockbuster where art though Flopping and trampled by the steeple bleating meeeeeh moooooooaaaaarr maaaaaaarvel
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 11:58:25 GMT
dude i was obviously not referring to you but to the sorry op and the last paragraph yuk🤢He is so desperate and dumb a shill fanboy He probably erupted in his Thor branded jocks in the cinema but Arf Arf is ok. Just wants to marry the MCU, that’s all. Would that be possible??? :-D
lololol
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 12:01:59 GMT
Disagree. I think there was too much emphasis placed on the humor. Usually in a film, there are 1 or 2 comedic relief characters that serve as the tension relievers. In Ragnarok, everyone had some form of comedic input which is totally unnecessary (unless you are making a comedy film which this is in disguise of a superhero film). Korgs lines are funny and so are most of Thors. But nope, Disney has to give Valkiry, Grandmaster, Banner, even Hela some sort of gag. And on top make Thor look like a dithering bufoon when handling Stranges ornaments and screaming like a girl at getting his haircut (real cringey and eye rolling moments). Just removing 50% of the humor and replacing it with some better character and/or action would have taken nothing away from the "fun" aspect of Ragnarok. And I have seen it twice. I really don't actually. In fact, I was a little surprised because I didn't feel like there was any more humor than was in Guardians or Ant Man. Yeah more characters might get involved, but I didn't feel any of it was unnecessary. I don't see the problem with it having more comedy. They MCU has plenty of highly serious films, and don't forget coming up is Black Panther and Infinity War, so getting a lighter film right before that is perfectly fine. The ornaments and hair cuts scenes didn't make me cringe or eye roll at all. IDK what to tell you.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 12:03:00 GMT
Disagree. I think there was too much emphasis placed on the humor. Usually in a film, there are 1 or 2 comedic relief characters that serve as the tension relievers. In Ragnarok, everyone had some form of comedic input which is totally unnecessary (unless you are making a comedy film which this is in disguise of a superhero film). Korgs lines are funny and so are most of Thors. But nope, Disney has to give Valkiry, Grandmaster, Banner, even Hela some sort of gag. And on top make Thor look like a dithering bufoon when handling Stranges ornaments and screaming like a girl at getting his haircut (real cringey and eye rolling moments). Just removing 50% of the humor and replacing it with some better character and/or action would have taken nothing away from the "fun" aspect of Ragnarok. And I have seen it twice. Have you tried seeing it 5 times in theaters? it gets really good Well it was good the 1st time. All I was saying is the 2nd time when the humor is faded slightly because you've heard it already, you realize the lines still work as great and none of them are forced.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 8, 2017 12:05:46 GMT
Disagree. I think there was too much emphasis placed on the humor. Usually in a film, there are 1 or 2 comedic relief characters that serve as the tension relievers. In Ragnarok, everyone had some form of comedic input which is totally unnecessary (unless you are making a comedy film which this is in disguise of a superhero film). Korgs lines are funny and so are most of Thors. But nope, Disney has to give Valkiry, Grandmaster, Banner, even Hela some sort of gag. And on top make Thor look like a dithering bufoon when handling Stranges ornaments and screaming like a girl at getting his haircut (real cringey and eye rolling moments). Just removing 50% of the humor and replacing it with some better character and/or action would have taken nothing away from the "fun" aspect of Ragnarok. And I have seen it twice. I really don't actually. In fact, I was a little surprised because I didn't feel like there was any more humor than was in Guardians or Ant Man. Yeah more characters might get involved, but I didn't feel any of it was unnecessary. I don't see the problem with it having more comedy. They MCU has plenty of highly serious films, and don't forget coming up is Black Panther and Infinity War, so getting a lighter film right before that is perfectly fine. The ornaments and hair cuts scenes didn't make me cringe or eye roll at all. IDK what to tell you. I really hope Infinity War is a bit more serious. But then again, i heard somewhere that the first thing they wrote for each character were the jokes. Hope that's not the case.
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