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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 23:54:36 GMT
The league isn't going to outdo wonder woman it doesn't look like, and the fat lady is warming up for it to get completely hammered by Thor.
With a 300 million dollar budget plus reshoots, this is looking to have the makings of a disaster. The break even point from theaters is at least $900 million. I guess under $800 million would be a disaster. You don't think that is possible?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 17, 2017 23:55:43 GMT
I'm sorry :-(
I got carried away
But I'm actually not doing it to rub salt, I'm sincerely excited to talk about it. This is an incredible result. If you could realize what it was like if you didn't actually care about DC, it's kind of exciting.
Alright, I'll bite. Explain. I'll honestly consider what you have to say... Fair enough,
I'm a Marvel fan, I fully admit it and don't apologize, and it's an absolute joy to watch Thor not only beat Justice League, but to crush it.
By telling me I'm rubbing salt in wounds, you're basically saying fans shouldn't cheer when their teams win because the other team feels bad.
Well you know what I'm sorry, but we've all been on the losing end sometimes and you're just going to have to suck it up and deal with it.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 17, 2017 23:56:59 GMT
The league isn't going to outdo wonder woman it doesn't look like, and the fat lady is warming up for it to get completely hammered by Thor.
With a 300 million dollar budget plus reshoots, this is looking to have the makings of a disaster. The break even point from theaters is at least $900 million. I guess under $800 million would be a disaster. You don't think that is possible? It's definitely possible now. It's losing to Ant Man in China and will be lucky to make 100 in the states. It's getting crushed by Thor. Star Wars hits in 4 weeks. I'll be shocked if it gets to 800.
Justice League is fucking toast.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 18, 2017 0:06:01 GMT
If Justice League is good like the fan score wants to suggest, and DC is as popular, and WB delayed the reviews so they would have little to no effect, then how did Justice League lose to Thor, and drop into a 90mil opening weekend?
What's the actual problem? Just a week ago, evvvvvvvvvvvvverybody was sure Justice League would beat Thor because "it's the Justice League". I mean everybody cares about them right?
Is DC not as popular as fans thought? Is Justice League and the entire DCEU worse than fans want to admit?
It has to be something.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 18, 2017 0:26:43 GMT
exactly
So why did you delete my thread asking why Justice League is failing?
Because it was yet another bait thread (which you won't be making any more of) that was a box office related question so was moved to the box office related thread. Oh so censoring, yeah that's fair,
I mean there were trolls all over the Marvel boards, where were you on that one?
But really I'd like to know why you think Justice League is flopping? I mean if the fans like it as you say, and of course it can't be because DC isn't as popular as you think. What's the problem?
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Post by scabab on Nov 18, 2017 0:47:24 GMT
Oh so censoring, yeah that's fair,I mean there were trolls all over the Marvel boards, where were you on that one? I wasn't a mod back then. You haven't seen the filth I removed from that board during your hiatus leading up to Thor. Fans liking it doesn't mean it won't flop as the new Blade Runner shows. It's clear why it's disappointing, none of this is of any surprise to me whatsoever, I said all the way back in March and several times after that this wouldn't make as much as Batman vs Superman and it won't. imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/14438/justice-league-money-batman-supermanWhy? 1. People didn't like Batman vs Superman and this is the follow up. When people don't like one it affects the sequel. 2. There was vastly less hype for this compared to Batman vs Superman. Trailer views were low. It couldn't even get on this list. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_viewed_online_trailers_in_the_first_24_hours3. There's no Superman in the marketing. The premiere Justice League hero and most important member isn't there. This is like X-men First Class not having Wolverine. It doesn't matter that he actually is in it because that was never shown to be the case marketing wise. 4. This isn't the equivalent of The Avengers. Batman vs Superman is more of an equivalent to The Avengers. With Marvel, they had 4 individual movies with the main heroes then brought together for the first time in The Avengers. That was interesting and exciting and was why it did well. That has not happened with Justice League that is Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman characters who have already been in the same movie coming together with Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg who nobody cares about because they haven't even got a movie. 5. This has bad reviews and seeing as reviews were important considering that BvS's reviews made media news then people were more likely to keep an eye out for it. The odds this was going to outgross Batman vs Superman was minimal and all box office tracking and predictions on the forums knew this was going to happen.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 18, 2017 0:48:13 GMT
JL is really under performing, will struggle to hit 100m OW. 200m domestic in doubt but holidays could help
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 18, 2017 2:01:51 GMT
JL is really under performing, will struggle to hit 100m OW. 200m domestic in doubt but holidays could help It is dangerously close to flop territory right now.
Less than 100 opening, and the projection dropped 15 million, HOLY SHIT.
You know the 2nd weekend drop is going to tank too.
It's losing to Ant Man of all films in China.
This is a out and out disaster right now.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 18, 2017 2:02:55 GMT
The league isn't going to outdo wonder woman it doesn't look like, and the fat lady is warming up for it to get completely hammered by Thor.
With a 300 million dollar budget plus reshoots, this is looking to have the makings of a disaster. The break even point from theaters is at least $900 million. I guess under $800 million would be a disaster. You don't think that is possible? This is a total disaster at this point.
I don't see how it gets to 800 million right now. That is insane!!!!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 18, 2017 2:19:44 GMT
Yes, that's actually a serious question. Doctor Strange totally 677 million, and with Justice League opening almost 25 million behind Thor and almost certain to have a big second weekend drop and no legs, can it outdo the Dr? Remember it's only opening about 10 million ahead of it, and it's not doing well overseas where Ant Man is currently beating it in China.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 2:46:03 GMT
Are you drunk, dude? No I'm just done with the board if this is what he wants to do. I'd just quit, but I'm going to make him make me. I don't think it's unreasonable to keep all the BO talk to one thread.
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Post by scabab on Nov 18, 2017 3:20:26 GMT
I spent months dealing with legitimate trolls on the MCU boards, I ignored them and didn't get involved in flame wars. And now you're treating me like this. Oh I treat everyone like this now. See I wasn't a mod during those months of flame wars, that's why there were flame wars. I am a mod now though and things have improved. You don't have to concern yourself with future problems from trolls but you can't cause problems yourself. You can post threads about reviews though I will remove any bait in them that could cause trouble if I see it. You can't post box office threads though. Do you still intend to do so anyway?
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Nov 18, 2017 3:46:40 GMT
Leave your basement every once and awhile and you won't act like a complete douche. At least I hope so. I travel for a living. I think I've been to every major city in the states, and hundreds of small ones. Can you say you've been to every NFL stadium? Have you been to Yosemite? Grand Canyon? Hawaii? Vegas? Manhatton? Disney World? Disney Land? Jamaica? Cosumel? Hiked the Appalachian trail? Canoed for three weeks in the Canadian boundry waters with Minnesota catching fish? This is an interest of mine that I update in airports and starbucks. Don't be that guy who makes meaningless insults. Don't be the guy who brags about how much he travels, but likely doesn't leave a 50 mile radius around his house.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 3:59:39 GMT
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Nov 18, 2017 4:05:04 GMT
No I'm just done with the board if this is what he wants to do. I'd just quit, but I'm going to make him make me. I don't think it's unreasonable to keep all the BO talk to one thread. Now this we agree 100 percent on. For those who remember the old boards, it was overtaken by box office talk. Little to nothing about the actual film. So, this idea is great.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 6:27:24 GMT
What an odd time to be alive. The titans of the comic book world fighting against a character who was a second stringer until relatively recently with the distinct possibility of not coming out on top, and even if they do, it might not be by much. That's interesting and really tells you how much the MCU has grown these characters and also tells you much how the DCEU needs to get its head in the game.
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Post by scabab on Nov 18, 2017 6:41:51 GMT
Meanwhile, DC-Fan constantly flame baits us on the MCU board and you let him get away with it each and every time. He doesn't make threads over and over and actually does make a point to his topics whether people agree or not. He has also always politely complied when an issue has been brought his way too. Nothing like what happened here. Oh am I? That's funny I could have swore Poelzig said I was seriously biased in favour of the MCU instead. If you can't handle a Thor: Ragnarok;vs Justice League thread topic during one of the biggest one on one encounters there has ever been and are afraid to discuss the fact that one of the greatest upsets in anything ever is about to take place this weekend, and your ;only solution is to hide the thread, then you sir, are a pussy. That itself was fine. Which is why I did little with it originally, same with the other couples users. But then you made another one, pretty much the same. Then another one even though another user had made a topic with the same information. Then another, then another, all progressively more baity as they went on hence you admitting it was baity and Lord Death Man asking you to stand down. Then I made this, like I said so it was all contained to one topic....but then you made another one and another one. So it was never about a civil discussion between the two movies. You were only ever interested in one thing and that won't be happening here.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 18, 2017 6:43:50 GMT
I don't care about box office.
I only care that the movie sucked.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 18, 2017 6:45:57 GMT
'worldwide', its dead domestically
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 18, 2017 6:47:55 GMT
What an odd time to be alive. The titans of the comic book world fighting against a character who was a second stringer until relatively recently with the distinct possibility of not coming out on top, and even if they do, it might not be by much. That's interesting and really tells you how much the MCU has grown these characters and also tells you much how the DCEU needs to get its head in the game.It's way too late for that. DCEU needs to be shot in the head.
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