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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 9, 2017 1:01:11 GMT
All of them? All over the world? Even the small houses? Outhouses, too? There were no carpenters? No architects? He did it all? Like some early day Sim City? Was he like a beach bully and came and knocked down people's houses that he didn't build? I just had this crazy image of Apocalypse doing a double take at a house he didn't build and making a fashion designer-type comment, before knocking it down. Now we know why he says "Everything 'they' built will fall." Selfish bastard. The civilization of Ancient Egypt was one of the earliest in world history. There weren't many others like it. So you are saying there were only people in Egypt? Wait, one of the earliest. There weren't many others? So there were others at the same time or even before he was around...
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 9, 2017 1:22:32 GMT
The civilization of Ancient Egypt was one of the earliest in world history. There weren't many others like it. So you are saying there were only people in Egypt? Wait, one of the earliest. There weren't many others? So there were others at the same time or even before he was around... The dude was a around for a thousand life times(so he says). So there probably was no civilization before he was around.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 9, 2017 6:29:03 GMT
The MCU sucks harder than your mother. TFA too. Especially TFA.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 9, 2017 15:15:18 GMT
The MCU sucks harder than your mother. TFA too. Especially TFA. TFA revived Star Wars after the Prequels. I'm sorry you hate loving homages so much.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 9, 2017 19:36:54 GMT
So you are saying there were only people in Egypt? Wait, one of the earliest. There weren't many others? So there were others at the same time or even before he was around... The dude was a around for a thousand life times(so he says). So there probably was no civilization before he was around. So you are saying he is the one to think about building buildings and bringing people together? No, it's like this, the makers of X-men Apocalypse put a bunch of Apocalypse stories together and it made the movie a jumble. He had Magneto do something that went against what his goal was about. If he wanted to get rid of technology, he would have (like I said before) had Magneto cause an EMP. Destroying infrastructure, because he didn't build them, is not a good start to ruling the world when his people will need that stuff. What is he going to do, rebuild it all?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 19:38:52 GMT
Exactly. Most of the modern people wouldn't last a day with the infrastructure gone. He'd end up with a handful of people left, at best.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 9, 2017 19:43:07 GMT
The dude was a around for a thousand life times(so he says). So there probably was no civilization before he was around. So you are saying he is the one to think about building buildings and bringing people together? No, it's like this, the makers of X-men Apocalypse put a bunch of Apocalypse stories together and it made the movie a jumble. He had Magneto do something that went against what his goal was about. If he wanted to get rid of technology, he would have (like I said before) had Magneto cause an EMP. Destroying infrastructure, because he didn't build them, is not a good start to ruling the world when his people will need that stuff. What is he going to do, rebuild it all? Well he did make that massive prymind on his own with ease and yes his plan was to rebuild. "We'll build a better one".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 19:44:32 GMT
It'd actually be easier to rebuild that massive pyramid with modern construction equipment. Just sayin'.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 9, 2017 20:28:16 GMT
So you are saying he is the one to think about building buildings and bringing people together? No, it's like this, the makers of X-men Apocalypse put a bunch of Apocalypse stories together and it made the movie a jumble. He had Magneto do something that went against what his goal was about. If he wanted to get rid of technology, he would have (like I said before) had Magneto cause an EMP. Destroying infrastructure, because he didn't build them, is not a good start to ruling the world when his people will need that stuff. What is he going to do, rebuild it all? Well he did make that massive prymind on his own with ease and yes his plan was to rebuild. "We'll build a better one". He didn't mean he'd actually rebuild the world's buildings. He meant he'd build a better world (spiritually) for people (mutants mostly) to live in. Also, he built that pyramid, but do you know how long it would take to rebuild all the buildings in the world? And like I said before, is he going to play a real world Sim City? Farms and industrial centers and schooling and what have you. And this was his "plan" before Xavier. But, anyway, this went way off what the topic was about.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 10, 2017 5:11:59 GMT
The MCU sucks harder than your mother. TFA too. Especially TFA. TFA revived Star Wars after the Prequels. I'm sorry you hate loving homages so much. I'm sorry you settled for one. Edited to add: And a sad excuse for one, at that!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 10, 2017 5:20:23 GMT
Exactly. Most of the modern people wouldn't last a day with the infrastructure gone. He'd end up with a handful of people left, at best. But doesn't that seem consistent with the character to you? This is from here: "In his initial appearances, Apocalypse was depicted as a mutant supremacist, however over time Apocalypse slowly became more of a character with concerns of the continuing evolution of humankind and mutantkind and how it must progress over time. Apocalypse has tested mankind over the thousands of years of his life to provide his own form of natural selection, culling the weak from the strong in order for humanity to grow stronger. Apocalypse is sometimes portrayed as a malevolent and megalomaniac despot, bent on conquering the world as the self-considered fittest. Apocalypse has often been seen as a cruel, vicious, ruthless, sadistic, and masochistic monster appearing to be emotionless and extremely cruel as he is among the most brutal of the X-Men‘s enemies to the point where Apocalypse would kill members of the Clan Akkaba for even asking for help while each member were blood related descendants of himself. It has even been stated that Apocalypse is history’s most notorious villain as even the High Evolutionary has said that Apocalypse is a villain of the first order.
Over thousands of years, Apocalypse has traveled the planet starting countless wars and conflicts in his quest of winnowing out the weak from the strong in which the strong would defeat and destroy the weak in his belief that only the strong should survive and rule while believing that he was the strongest as Apocalypse has even stated that 'Peace does nothing to test -- to INCREASE -- mutants' strength. To force them to evolve into the strong....'"
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 10, 2017 13:22:55 GMT
TFA revived Star Wars after the Prequels. I'm sorry you hate loving homages so much. I'm sorry you settled for one. Edited to add: And a sad excuse for one, at that! It's better than settling for the Prequels, thanks.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 10, 2017 15:08:46 GMT
I'm sorry you settled for one. Edited to add: And a sad excuse for one, at that! It's better than settling for the Prequels, thanks. OMG ZING A PREQUEL JOKE WHERE DOES HE GET THAT OSCAR WILDE-LIKE WORDPLAY?!?!?!!!!!111
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 10, 2017 15:32:30 GMT
It's better than settling for the Prequels, thanks. OMG ZING A PREQUEL JOKE WHERE DOES HE GET THAT OSCAR WILDE-LIKE WORDPLAY?!?!?!!!!!111 Calm down, you're going to give yourself a breakdown at this rate. TFA had actual enjoyability to it while being a nice homage.
It's strange you're part of the "It's just A New Hope again!" crowd, seeing how the X-Movies are all just the same story over and over.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 10, 2017 18:28:54 GMT
OMG ZING A PREQUEL JOKE WHERE DOES HE GET THAT OSCAR WILDE-LIKE WORDPLAY?!?!?!!!!!111 Calm down, you're going to give yourself a breakdown at this rate. TFA had actual enjoyability to it while being a nice homage.
It's strange you're part of the "It's just A New Hope again!" crowd, seeing how the X-Movies are all just the same story over and over.
I mean. No? They aren't? Unless you're basically retarded and can only comprehend them in terms of the recurring characters. And even those change! I respect your need to feel like you have to fire back something sharp, but I have never in seventeen years heard another person complain that the X-Men films, which are plenty flawed regardless, are "too similar." That's random.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 10, 2017 21:20:40 GMT
Calm down, you're going to give yourself a breakdown at this rate. TFA had actual enjoyability to it while being a nice homage.
It's strange you're part of the "It's just A New Hope again!" crowd, seeing how the X-Movies are all just the same story over and over.
I mean. No? They aren't? Unless you're basically retarded and can only comprehend them in terms of the recurring characters. And even those change! I respect your need to feel like you have to fire back something sharp, but I have never in seventeen years heard another person complain that the X-Men films, which are plenty flawed regardless, are "too similar." That's random. Yeah, they are. It's just the same basic plot of the first X-Men movie repeated. Humans doing something that could harm mutants, the X-Men respond, Magneto ends up with some machine of doom in the end. That's the basic plot of X1, X2 and DOFP. The "good" X-Movies.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 10, 2017 21:24:34 GMT
I mean. No? They aren't? Unless you're basically retarded and can only comprehend them in terms of the recurring characters. And even those change! I respect your need to feel like you have to fire back something sharp, but I have never in seventeen years heard another person complain that the X-Men films, which are plenty flawed regardless, are "too similar." That's random. Yeah, they are. It's just the same basic plot of the first X-Men movie repeated. Humans doing something that could harm mutants, the X-Men respond, Magneto ends up with some machine of doom in the end. That's the basic plot of X1, X2 and DOFP. The "good" X-Movies. Dude, this sort of disingenuous analysis could be applied to anything. "WELL THEY ALL FEATURE X-MEN IN THEM AND OUT OF THE TEN MOVIES THEY'VE MADE I CAN MAKE A SUPER LAZY TENUOUS CONNECTION BETWEEN THREE OF THEM LOLZ" I mean. You can't be serious. This cannot be the apex of your insight. ... oh, fuck, IS it?! Better go watch TFA. That's just your speed. And it makes you feel "loved" by warm, sweet, fuzzy Disney feels and Pavlovian effects slipped into the background to manipulate your stunted, primitive little subconscious "mind."
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 10, 2017 23:19:31 GMT
Yeah, they are. It's just the same basic plot of the first X-Men movie repeated. Humans doing something that could harm mutants, the X-Men respond, Magneto ends up with some machine of doom in the end. That's the basic plot of X1, X2 and DOFP. The "good" X-Movies. Dude, this sort of disingenuous analysis could be applied to anything. It works for X-Men extremely well. They always have to contrive a way to get Magneto in there, they always have to have the X-Men be reactive and never pro-active, they always have to get Xavier's powers incapacitated.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 10, 2017 23:34:54 GMT
Dude, this sort of disingenuous analysis could be applied to anything. It works for X-Men extremely well. They always have to contrive a way to get Magneto in there, they always have to have the X-Men be reactive and never pro-active, they always have to get Xavier's powers incapacitated.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 11, 2017 2:28:02 GMT
It works for X-Men extremely well. They always have to contrive a way to get Magneto in there, they always have to have the X-Men be reactive and never pro-active, they always have to get Xavier's powers incapacitated. Yep. It's why they had to use the R-rating gimmick to keep going (the one they didn't want to do until Ryan Reynolds proved them all wrong). Their own way of doing X-Movies ran dry.
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