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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 16:05:19 GMT
@winterssuicide Both of those are false. there is no reason to have sex other than to reproduce as that's it's purpose and you won't be reproducing in the afterlife.
My wife and I would disagree with that.
Also, per the scriptures, angels did/do have sex and they they actually did reproduce. The Church is not Catholic. The Church is a body of believers who have received salvation and their denominations are many. No it isn't. There was no such thing as "weekly mass" when this commandment was given and its edict has nothing to do with a building.
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Post by goz on Feb 5, 2018 20:37:23 GMT
You lost me. So what was going on before the Trinitarian God was aware of itself? who knows? OK, so you are an agnostic Christian?
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Post by gadreel on Feb 6, 2018 17:48:58 GMT
In the context of this conversation I am talking about a grand unified theory though. What grand unified theory? What is it? Sounds like a bit of deflection here Gad. A grand unified theory is essentially the total theory I have of how the universe works, and my relation to it. Mine I guess is based on hermetic Christianity.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 6, 2018 17:55:32 GMT
OK, so you are an agnostic Christian? I am not sure what you are driving at here. I happen to be an Agnostic Theist in that I cannot be sure that what I espouse is correct, but if you are asking me if I am agnostic because I do not know the nature of God, I wonder if you apply that to all Jews fro example who believe the same thing. At the end of the day (my opinion is that) we cannot know the nature of God™ all we can see is the effects of God on creation. (assuming you believe of course that God™ is the source of creation).
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Post by goz on Feb 6, 2018 20:50:20 GMT
OK, so you are an agnostic Christian? I am not sure what you are driving at here. I happen to be an Agnostic Theist in that I cannot be sure that what I espouse is correct, but if you are asking me if I am agnostic because I do not know the nature of God, I wonder if you apply that to all Jews fro example who believe the same thing. At the end of the day (my opinion is that) we cannot know the nature of God™ all we can see is the effects of God on creation. (assuming you believe of course that God™ is the source of creation). Did you reject my proposal that you were an agnostic 'Christian' because it is incompatible with the tenets of Christianity, or because you think there is no such thing, preferring to say you are an Agnostic Theist? As stated it implies that you do not know the nature of God only the effects of God on Creation. What about Jesus and his triumvirate? Do you accept that they exist or does a similar agnosticism apply there too?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 11:47:16 GMT
Somebody who is interested\believes in God\spirituality thing but not religious about it.
I mean i don`t think you can be an atheist and spiritual. But i do think you can be spiritual without being religious.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 7, 2018 14:13:40 GMT
I mean i don`t think you can be an atheist and spiritual. Depends on how you define "spiritual." If you don't define it any differently than "mind," then you can most certainly be atheist and spiritual. Even if spiritual must refer to something supernatural, you can still be atheist and spiritual (as long as that supernatural isn't connected with god/s). Only if you define spiritual as something to do with god/s can you not be atheist and spiritual.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 7, 2018 17:33:34 GMT
A grand unified theory is essentially the total theory I have of how the universe works, and my relation to it. Mine I guess is based on hermetic Christianity. That you have, or how it really works? It's a theory I have about how it really works. I am not 100% sure I understand the question.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 7, 2018 17:36:32 GMT
I am not sure what you are driving at here. I happen to be an Agnostic Theist in that I cannot be sure that what I espouse is correct, but if you are asking me if I am agnostic because I do not know the nature of God, I wonder if you apply that to all Jews fro example who believe the same thing. At the end of the day (my opinion is that) we cannot know the nature of God™ all we can see is the effects of God on creation. (assuming you believe of course that God™ is the source of creation). Did you reject my proposal that you were an agnostic 'Christian' because it is incompatible with the tenets of Christianity, or because you think there is no such thing, preferring to say you are an Agnostic Theist? As stated it implies that you do not know the nature of God only the effects of God on Creation. What about Jesus and his triumvirate? Do you accept that they exist or does a similar agnosticism apply there too? I did not reject your proposal that I am an Agnostic Christian per se, it is just more proper to say I am an agnostic theist as I believe that there is no proof for any God™ claims, I am not agnostic towards Christianity specifically, I am agnostic towards the idea of God™ as a whole. I believe Jesus existed as a persons. I believe in the Trinity (that Jesus is not a part of), it is a fundamental part of result of God™ becoming aware of itself.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 7, 2018 21:29:39 GMT
It's a theory I have about how it really works. I am not 100% sure I understand the question. A theory is just speculation. So it yours, but perhaps not the way it is. You would have to describe it. Yeah not going to describe it in full here, not my scene. But you are welcome to have a look at the esoteric Christian stream and hermeticism, maybe we can discus it in person. Actually I may go into it at the end of the day, not sure I have time at the moment, but at the head of it is the force that God™ exerts at the act of creation. This means that God™ is beyond the scope of the model, all we do is say the first force is God™ and it is a mental force.
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Post by goz on Feb 7, 2018 22:27:46 GMT
Somebody who is interested\believes in God\spirituality thing but not religious about it. I mean i don`t think you can be an atheist and spiritual. But i do think you can be spiritual without being religious. Well, I am an agnostic atheist and spiritual. Will that do?
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Feb 12, 2018 14:17:08 GMT
I believe in basically the Judeo-Christian, but have a few other beliefs like Karma and reincarnation, that I also embrace. A mix of things.
I don't follow an organized religion right now, but those who enjoy it and get something out of the community of it, are lucky and should do as they like. I would, if I found one I liked.
I don't talk about my religious and spiritual beliefs much, I don't mind what anyone else follows, but I don't like it if others say their way is the right way.
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