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Post by clusium on Feb 1, 2018 19:30:13 GMT
They have the satanic bible, among other things.... The satanic bible is not for theistic satanists. What holy book and set of stories do you suppose theistic satanists get the basis for their religion from? Both kinds use the satanic bible. They also use books called 'grimoirs etc.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 1, 2018 19:31:06 GMT
You, & everyone else who have said that satanists are Christian are the ones who are 100% wrong. Okay.... seriously... one... last... fcking time... Nobody is saying that Satanists are Christians... Just that YOU HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO CHRISTIANITY TO BE A SATANIST WHO BELIEVES IN THE CHRISTIAN DEVIL. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp. Try it this way: The Patriots aren't The Eagles... but both teams play the same game by the same rules.. ....except that the Patriots cheat. It's all fcking football. It's more of a falsehood than a concept, and many have already grasped it. The Christian Devil? Now that's rich.
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Post by clusium on Feb 1, 2018 19:35:05 GMT
You, & everyone else who have said that satanists are Christian are the ones who are 100% wrong. Okay.... seriously... one... last... fcking time... Nobody is saying that Satanists are Christians... Just that YOU HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO CHRISTIANITY TO BE A SATANIST WHO BELIEVES IN THE CHRISTIAN DEVIL. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp. Try it this way: The Patriots aren't The Eagles... but both teams play the same game by the same rules.. ....except that the Patriots cheat. It's all fcking football. No, a person who becomes a satanist does not subscribe to Christianity. They reject Christianity. BTW, not only do satanists hate Christianity, they hate all the major world religions, & choose the devils of said religi ons over the God or gods of said religions. Eg: they choose Angra Mainvu over Ahura Mazda; the Mara over the Buddha, etc.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 1, 2018 19:49:06 GMT
The satanic bible is not for theistic satanists. What holy book and set of stories do you suppose theistic satanists get the basis for their religion from? Both kinds use the satanic bible. They also use books called 'grimoirs etc. No, the Satanic bible is atheistic. I know what a grimoire is. What I am asking you is what set of religious texts do you suppose the concept of satan comes from?
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Post by clusium on Feb 1, 2018 20:17:34 GMT
Both kinds use the satanic bible. They also use books called 'grimoirs etc. No, the Satanic bible is atheistic. I know what a grimoire is. What I am asking you is what set of religious texts do you suppose the concept of satan comes from? I just answered your question. They use grimoirs, & like atheistic satanists, they use the satanic bible. Back when I was in high school, & kid once brought a satanic bible to school, & threatened to put a curse on another student, with it.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 1, 2018 20:25:44 GMT
No, the Satanic bible is atheistic. I know what a grimoire is. What I am asking you is what set of religious texts do you suppose the concept of satan comes from? I just answered your question. They use grimoirs, & like atheistic satanists, they use the satanic bible. Back when I was in high school, & kid once brought a satanic bible to school, & threatened to put a curse on another student, with it. No you dodged the question. The Character called Satan comes from the judeo-Christian stream, the holy book that his worshippers get their information from is the holy bible. Oh and some kid thinking that he can put a curse on someone from the Satanic Bible is a joke, not evidence, I assume you have never even looked at the satanic bible. Satanists and Christians share the same religious stream. They are part of the same religion.
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Post by goz on Feb 1, 2018 20:26:52 GMT
"real satanism" is as hard to define as "real Christianity", LaVeyan Satanists are humanists, rejecting theism of all sorts, but there are theistic satanists who follow the teachings of the bible and worship the Satan they find in that theology. Like the ones who partake in ritual abortions? Yes, I know, it takes all kinds. What is a 'ritual abortion'?
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Post by gadreel on Feb 1, 2018 20:31:48 GMT
Like the ones who partake in ritual abortions? Yes, I know, it takes all kinds. What is a 'ritual abortion'? Satanic abortion during ritual to sacrifice the unborn, it is a puritanical fantasy and has never been observed in realtion to Satanism.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 20:40:29 GMT
What is a 'ritual abortion'? Satanic abortion during ritual to sacrifice the unborn, it is a puritanical fantasy and has never been observed in realtion to Satanism. Define "observed." There's an eye witness.
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Post by goz on Feb 1, 2018 20:43:38 GMT
I just answered your question. They use grimoirs, & like atheistic satanists, they use the satanic bible. Back when I was in high school, & kid once brought a satanic bible to school, & threatened to put a curse on another student, with it. No you dodged the question. The Character called Satan comes from the judeo-Christian stream, the holy book that his worshippers get their information from is the holy bible. Oh and some kid thinking that he can put a curse on someone from the Satanic Bible is a joke, not evidence, I assume you have never even looked at the satanic bible. Satanists and Christians share the same religious stream. They are part of the same religion. I think we will all have to accept the fact that Clusium cannot bear to have anyone cast nasturtians on her precious and deeply held Christian/Catholic religion. Any connotation of Satanists having anything to do with it is beyond her comprehension.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 1, 2018 20:43:58 GMT
It's more of a falsehood than a concept, and many have already grasped it. The Christian Devil? Now that's rich. Yeah.. "Christian Devil"... The Devil that runs around in the Christian faith... You know, as opposed to the Buddhist Devil... It's like if somebody watches Star Wars.. and decides that he will root for Darth Vader... Sure.. He might not believe in Luke Skywalker saving the day... but he fucking believes in Star Wars.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 1, 2018 20:46:37 GMT
Satanic abortion during ritual to sacrifice the unborn, it is a puritanical fantasy and has never been observed in realtion to Satanism. Define "observed." There's an eye witness. After 20 years of searching the FBI and the United Kingdom authorities were unable to uncover any ritual abuse carried out by Satanists during the satanic panic started in the late 70's. There are more details in the link I provided.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 1, 2018 20:48:04 GMT
It's more of a falsehood than a concept, and many have already grasped it. The Christian Devil? Now that's rich. Yeah.. "Christian Devil"... The Devil that runs around in the Christian faith... You know, as opposed to the Buddhist Devil... It's like if somebody watches Star Wars.. and decides that he will root for Darth Vader... Sure.. He might not believe in Luke Skywalker saving the day... but he fucking believes in Star Wars. Fuck I am glad I have that clown on ignore. The Christian Devil is not Christian, look here is a fruitloop on youtube who supports me. Of course even erdumb can't find a youtube video to support this claim.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 20:59:03 GMT
Define "observed." There's an eye witness. After 20 years of searching the FBI and the United Kingdom authorities were unable to uncover any ritual abuse carried out by Satanists during the satanic panic started in the late 70's. There are more details in the link I provided. Can't find your link. Also, the interview/allegation/eye witness testimony I'm referring to took place in 2015 I believe, so federal investigation through the 90s or early 2000s wouldn't have anything to do with this particular set of allegations. Listen, I'm not saying it's a reliable testimony, I'm only saying there is one. And the only reason I brought it up was simply to acknowledge your distinction between theist Satanists and human secular Satanists.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 1, 2018 21:02:25 GMT
After 20 years of searching the FBI and the United Kingdom authorities were unable to uncover any ritual abuse carried out by Satanists during the satanic panic started in the late 70's. There are more details in the link I provided. Can't find your link. Also, the interview/allegation/eye witness testimony I'm referring to took place in 2015 I believe, so federal investigation through the 90s or early 2000s wouldn't have anything to do with this particular set of allegations. Listen, I'm not saying it's a reliable testimony, I'm only saying there is one. And the only reason I brought it up was simply to acknowledge your distinction between theist Satanists and human secular Satanists. It is possible that there is new evidence, but there was heaps of eyewitness testimony submitted over the years, and as far as I am aware no agency has ever brought charges against satanic groups for ritual abuse. I suppose it could be happening, but they are very good at covering their tracks, perhaps it is the power of Satan?
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Post by clusium on Feb 1, 2018 23:23:06 GMT
I just answered your question. They use grimoirs, & like atheistic satanists, they use the satanic bible. Back when I was in high school, & kid once brought a satanic bible to school, & threatened to put a curse on another student, with it. No you dodged the question. The Character called Satan comes from the judeo-Christian stream, the holy book that his worshippers get their information from is the holy bible. Oh and some kid thinking that he can put a curse on someone from the Satanic Bible is a joke, not evidence, I assume you have never even looked at the satanic bible. Satanists and Christians share the same religious stream. They are part of the same religion. No, I did not dodge the question. Regardless of where Devil worshippers get their information on him does not negate the fact that they are not Christian. Devil worshippers are just that: DEVIL WORSHIPPERS!!And yes, that afore-mentioned kid was a joke!! The kid whom he threatened made fun of his threat. You are right. I never looked at the satanic bible, nor do I have any intention to. Satanism is not part of Christianity. Not even close!!!!
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Post by gadreel on Feb 1, 2018 23:38:10 GMT
No you dodged the question. The Character called Satan comes from the judeo-Christian stream, the holy book that his worshippers get their information from is the holy bible. Oh and some kid thinking that he can put a curse on someone from the Satanic Bible is a joke, not evidence, I assume you have never even looked at the satanic bible. Satanists and Christians share the same religious stream. They are part of the same religion. No, I did not dodge the question. Regardless of where Devil worshippers get their information on him does not negate the fact that they are not Christian. Devil worshippers are just that: DEVIL WORSHIPPERS!!And yes, that afore-mentioned kid was a joke!! The kid whom he threatened made fun of his threat. You are right. I never looked at the satanic bible, nor do I have any intention to. Satanism is not part of Christianity. Not even close!!!! Satan comes from the Bible , theistic satanist believe what is written in the bible and believe in Jesus and God, they are Christian. I can tell you have not looked at the satanic bible, you are as clueless about that as you are about this.
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Post by clusium on Feb 1, 2018 23:48:00 GMT
No, I did not dodge the question. Regardless of where Devil worshippers get their information on him does not negate the fact that they are not Christian. Devil worshippers are just that: DEVIL WORSHIPPERS!!And yes, that afore-mentioned kid was a joke!! The kid whom he threatened made fun of his threat. You are right. I never looked at the satanic bible, nor do I have any intention to. Satanism is not part of Christianity. Not even close!!!! Satan comes from the Bible , theistic satanist believe what is written in the bible and believe in Jesus and God, they are Christian. I can tell you have not looked at the satanic bible, you are as clueless about that as you are about this. Satanists hate the Holy Bible. Rock singer Marilyn Manson, whose target fans happen to be satanists, used to invite them (his fans) to bring Bibles to his concerts, & tear the up & burn them (probably still does)!!! Oh, & for the record, I don't even care about what the satanic bible is all about.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 1, 2018 23:58:22 GMT
Satan comes from the Bible , theistic satanist believe what is written in the bible and believe in Jesus and God, they are Christian. I can tell you have not looked at the satanic bible, you are as clueless about that as you are about this. Satanists hate the Holy Bible. Rock singer Marilyn Manson, whose target fans happen to be satanists, used to invite them (his fans) to bring Bibles to his concerts, & tear the up & burn them (probably still does)!!! Oh, & for the record, I don't even care about what the satanic bible is all about. Okay.... I swear.... One last time... Here we go... 1) Do Devil worshippers acknowledge the existence of The Biblical God? 2) Do Devil worshippers acknowledge the existence and divinity of Jesus? 3) Who would Devil worshippers say that Jesus is?
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Post by goz on Feb 2, 2018 0:01:26 GMT
No, I did not dodge the question. Regardless of where Devil worshippers get their information on him does not negate the fact that they are not Christian. Devil worshippers are just that: DEVIL WORSHIPPERS!!And yes, that afore-mentioned kid was a joke!! The kid whom he threatened made fun of his threat. You are right. I never looked at the satanic bible, nor do I have any intention to. Satanism is not part of Christianity. Not even close!!!! Satan comes from the Bible , theistic satanist believe what is written in the bible and believe in Jesus and God, they are Christian. I can tell you have not looked at the satanic bible, you are as clueless about that as you are about this. According to Wiki, she is kinda sorta almost maybe half right!
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