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Post by phludowin on Feb 13, 2018 8:59:22 GMT
That's it in a nutshell. There's a Wikipedia entry on the Golden Rule. Early formulations come from long before the Bible existed. I could post more evidence; but after reading winter's replies to you or cupcakes I am assuming that he is not really interested in honest discussion; and trying to educate him would be like casting pearls before swine. At least that's my opinion. Would those be pearls of wisdom like how 17-year-olds should be treated no differently than swine if they are killed by an adult human? I never said this. But the fact that you post this non-sequiturial question confirms my opinion that you are not really interested in serious discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 14:55:04 GMT
Would those be pearls of wisdom like how 17-year-olds should be treated no differently than swine if they are killed by an adult human? I never said this. But the fact that you post this non-sequiturial question confirms my opinion that you are not really interested in serious discussion. I am wrong. You are right. According to you, anyone who is 17 months old or younger should be treated no differently than swine when killed. My apologies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 15:10:31 GMT
I never said this. But the fact that you post this non-sequiturial question confirms my opinion that you are not really interested in serious discussion. I am wrong. You are right. According to you, anyone who is 17 months old or younger should be treated no differently than swine when killed. My apologies. Get it right, you immoral theist!
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 13, 2018 15:33:11 GMT
tpfkar There you go again! You just can't help assigning 'communities' and the need for agreement on anything other than lack of belief in a god. You are so entrenched in your religion mindset that you aren't even aware of it. For the dummies, atheists share ONE common belief. They also might share heaps of others or not, just as all individuals do. ...? I was refuting Cupcakes' opinion on this using your argument. I wasn't the one who said their was agreement among atheists; he was. Don't you put that curse on me Ricky Bobby. One doesn't "refute" with slippery-slimy babble-rage apologia. This is about your ' Atheists get to pick and choose what "ethics" they follow and those are almost always dependent on current trends.' and ' I did not choose my ethics.' silly old doofishness. Oh, I just saw this because you've been on ignore since I told you you were on ignore. G'bye!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 15:35:57 GMT
Ha, I think I've been in this actual hand before. It's great! I especially enjoy Jane's "hand" in life. For me, swearing in art has to be absolutely natural and artistic, otherwise, it makes me pause and draws me momentarily out of the art. "All hell against her" and "her whole damn life" flowed for me, seemed natural, and definitely work artistically. They could be lyrics in a country song about gambling, right? I mean, we could imagine Reba singing these lyrics. "her marriage turned to shit," on the other hand, kind of made me pause a moment. I think the phrase would have been better served as "her marriage turned to rags," which, obviously keeps with the vernacular of the topic and plays off same said vernacular in the proceeding double entendre, "sell her up the river" (also a great phrase). But that's just me. Fun poem all in all! Thanks. I actually love your suggestion about turned to rags and will make the change. One of the things I love about poetry is finding those perfect words that work on multiple senses given what the poem's about. I agree with you about swearing in art; it simply comes down to what voice I'm writing in and whether or not it fits within that vernacular. Yeah, there's definitely a bit of "The Gambler" in the piece. For me, I was just trying to encapsulate perhaps the three main types of players I see: the gambler, the pro, and the types that take it personally. I think the biggest thing that separates pros from casual players is a problem-solving mind set that's rather detached from the results. Gamblers can have a detachment, but lack the problem-solving mind-set; the "personal" types can have the problem-solving mind-set, but get bogged down in thinking that luck has it out for them. You did that and more. Do you have any about hiking?
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Post by Isapop on Feb 13, 2018 15:46:21 GMT
I never said this. But the fact that you post this non-sequiturial question confirms my opinion that you are not really interested in serious discussion. I am wrong. You are right. According to you, anyone who is 17 months old or younger should be treated no differently than swine when killed. My apologies. Phludowin asserted that the Golden Rule predates the Bible. You responded, "I'm interested in this. Please cite evidence." Your subsequent avoidance of this point after he said that evidence is in Wiki's Golden Rule article supports his opinion that your claim, "I'm interested in this" wasn't sincere at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 15:52:15 GMT
tpfkar ...? I was refuting Cupcakes' opinion on this using your argument. I wasn't the one who said their was agreement among atheists; he was. Don't you put that curse on me Ricky Bobby. One doesn't "refute" with slippery-slimy babble-rage apologia. This is about your ' Atheists get to pick and choose what "ethics" they follow and those are almost always dependent on current trends.' and ' I did not choose my ethics.' silly old doofishness. Oh, I just saw this because you've been on ignore since I told you you were on ignore. G'bye!"Doofishness." You're an artist, cupcakes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 15:55:19 GMT
I am wrong. You are right. According to you, anyone who is 17 months old or younger should be treated no differently than swine when killed. My apologies. Phludowin asserted that the Golden Rule predates the Bible. You responded, "I'm interested in this. Please cite evidence." Your subsequent avoidance of this point after he said that evidence is in Wiki's Golden Rule article supports his opinion that your claim, "I'm interested in this" wasn't sincere at all.
Two totally different topics. Would you like me to comment on the golden rule or phludowin's belief that toddlers have the same rights as animals?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 16:01:51 GMT
"Doofishness." You're an artist, cupcakes.
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Post by Isapop on Feb 13, 2018 16:02:29 GMT
Phludowin asserted that the Golden Rule predates the Bible. You responded, "I'm interested in this. Please cite evidence." Your subsequent avoidance of this point after he said that evidence is in Wiki's Golden Rule article supports his opinion that your claim, "I'm interested in this" wasn't sincere at all.
Two totally different topics. Would you like me to comment on the golden rule or phludowin's belief that toddlers have the same rights as animals? If you're finally ready to address it, how would you assess the assertion that the Golden Rule predates the Bible?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 13, 2018 16:12:20 GMT
lol at the Golden Rule argument now...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 16:19:08 GMT
Two totally different topics. Would you like me to comment on the golden rule or phludowin's belief that toddlers have the same rights as animals? If you're finally ready to address it, how would you assess the assertion that the Golden Rule predates the Bible? Well I wouldn't start with that premise. The Bible is a collection of books that were authored over many centuries, so let's narrow it down. Jesus' iteration of the golden rule amalgamates the final six commandments as found in Exodus. Most scholars agree that Moses wrote Exodus and Moses predates the earliest known non-biblical written version of this principle by a millennium or so.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 13, 2018 17:55:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 18:00:35 GMT
Needs a verb to be a sentence, cupcakes.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 13, 2018 18:02:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 18:38:17 GMT
Needs a verb to be a sentence, cupcakes. Cupcake is just typing CIRCLES around us! We can't keep up!
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 13, 2018 18:46:05 GMT
tpfkar "Doofishness." You're an artist, cupcakes. More just having a good time. There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 18:51:30 GMT
tpfkar "Doofishness." You're an artist, cupcakes. More just having a good time. There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line. Me too!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 18:53:18 GMT
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