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Post by cupcakes on Feb 13, 2018 18:54:30 GMT
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Post by phludowin on Feb 13, 2018 20:04:43 GMT
I never said this. But the fact that you post this non-sequiturial question confirms my opinion that you are not really interested in serious discussion. I am wrong. You are right. According to you, anyone who is 17 months old or younger should be treated no differently than swine when killed. My apologies. Apology accepted. However, as Isapop said: This has nothing to do with whether the Golden Rule predates the Bible. It does. As the Wikipedia article shows: Ancient Egypt had a variant of it in the story of the Eloquent Peasant.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 20:11:02 GMT
I am wrong. You are right. According to you, anyone who is 17 months old or younger should be treated no differently than swine when killed. My apologies. Apology accepted. However, as Isapop said: This has nothing to do with whether the Golden Rule predates the Bible. It does. As the Wikipedia article shows: Ancient Egypt had a variant of it in the story of the Eloquent Peasant. No, they didn't.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 13, 2018 20:23:26 GMT
Apology accepted. However, as Isapop said: This has nothing to do with whether the Golden Rule predates the Bible. It does. As the Wikipedia article shows: Ancient Egypt had a variant of it in the story of the Eloquent Peasant. No, they didn't. The evidence available from Wikipedia and the external links, like here, says otherwise. But I have noticed that most ethical frameworks, all over the world, have some variation of the Golden Rule within them. So maybe it's human nature to do as you would be done by; maybe the Golden Rule is a by-product of human empathy. And humanity predates Christianity.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 13, 2018 20:32:12 GMT
I am wrong. You are right. According to you, anyone who is 17 months old or younger should be treated no differently than swine when killed. My apologies. Apology accepted. However, as Isapop said: This has nothing to do with whether the Golden Rule predates the Bible. It does. As the Wikipedia article shows: Ancient Egypt had a variant of it in the story of the Eloquent Peasant. Actually that variant is a very wild variant. Not to say that the Golden Rule didn't exist in some form or another centuries prior to Jesus saying it considering how simplistic it is (plus it's not like the Bible was written in a weekend in the 1st century...), just that there are several dots between that whacky Egyptian one and the one Jesus said. Even from that link, the closest one is the one from India and it could have been written centuries after Jesus said it. The other examples are decidedly on the mean spirited side which Jesus could have very well been contrasting with. All of this is moot since the one people identify with the most is the one Jesus phrased which iswhich is what Jesus was saying when he indicated himself that the thinking behind it wasn't a new thought and society overall is simply saying that t was the best way to say it. He linked his statement to being evident in the OT, making the "controversy" kinda pointless on both sides of the table since it was pretty much "love you neighbor as yourself".FAKE EDIT: Wiki is saying the same thing. Anyway... To stay on topic: Abortion sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 20:57:30 GMT
The evidence available from Wikipedia and the external links, like here, says otherwise. But I have noticed that most ethical frameworks, all over the world, have some variation of the Golden Rule within them. So maybe it's human nature to do as you would be done by; maybe the Golden Rule is a by-product of human empathy. And humanity predates Christianity. No, what wikipedia says is that a variant was first noticed in Ancient Egypt sometime between 664–323 BC. What was found in The Eloquent Peasant is an example of reciprocity, which is, in fact, not the Golden Rule.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 13, 2018 21:05:43 GMT
what wikipedia says is that a variant was first noticed in Ancient Egypt sometime between 664–323 BC. Which still predates Christianity. What was found in The Eloquent Peasant is an example of reciprocity, which is, in fact, not the Golden Rule. Maybe. But since the Golden Rule is more or less a result of human empathy, and empathy has evolved in social animals, I wouldn't be surprised if some unrecorded versions of it have been around since the dawn of humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 21:12:10 GMT
what wikipedia says is that a variant was first noticed in Ancient Egypt sometime between 664–323 BC. Which still predates Christianity. But not Moses, per my original post.
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Post by goz on Feb 14, 2018 0:19:26 GMT
tpfkar ...? I was refuting Cupcakes' opinion on this using your argument. I wasn't the one who said their was agreement among atheists; he was. Don't you put that curse on me Ricky Bobby. One doesn't "refute" with slippery-slimy babble-rage apologia. This is about your ' Atheists get to pick and choose what "ethics" they follow and those are almost always dependent on current trends.' and ' I did not choose my ethics.' silly old doofishness. Oh, I just saw this because you've been on ignore since I told you you were on ignore. G'bye!I hate to be picky (no I don't) butt, whilst having a certain charm and piquancy 'doofishness' should more correctly be 'doufousishness' IMHO True is has a clumsiness, but in that sense is almost onamatapaeic.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 14, 2018 4:36:40 GMT
Thanks. I actually love your suggestion about turned to rags and will make the change. One of the things I love about poetry is finding those perfect words that work on multiple senses given what the poem's about. I agree with you about swearing in art; it simply comes down to what voice I'm writing in and whether or not it fits within that vernacular. Yeah, there's definitely a bit of "The Gambler" in the piece. For me, I was just trying to encapsulate perhaps the three main types of players I see: the gambler, the pro, and the types that take it personally. I think the biggest thing that separates pros from casual players is a problem-solving mind set that's rather detached from the results. Gamblers can have a detachment, but lack the problem-solving mind-set; the "personal" types can have the problem-solving mind-set, but get bogged down in thinking that luck has it out for them. You did that and more. Do you have any about hiking?
No, though I did have a sketch for one about a particularly memorable bike trip; never got around to actually writing it though.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 15, 2018 20:10:02 GMT
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 16, 2018 18:08:55 GMT
tpfkar Which still predates Christianity. But not Moses, per my original post. Backdated pure fiction doesn't count. I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception can ever be religious -- unless he purposely shut the eyes of his mind & keep them shut by force.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 18:13:12 GMT
tpfkar But not Moses, per my original post. Backdated pure fiction doesn't count. I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception can ever be religious -- unless he purposely shut the eyes of his mind & keep them shut by force.There's nothing backdated about it, bruh. Moses came long before the Egyptians were writing about the golden rule. You should return to your discussion about my multiple brains.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 16, 2018 18:20:27 GMT
tpfkar Backdated pure fiction doesn't count. I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception can ever be religious -- unless he purposely shut the eyes of his mind & keep them shut by force.There's nothing backdated about it, bruh. Moses came long before the Egyptians were writing about the golden rule. You should return to your discussion about my multiple brains. Written after, and likely babble-based like your last line here. Babble, babble toil and trabble.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 18:28:23 GMT
tpfkar There's nothing backdated about it, bruh. Moses came long before the Egyptians were writing about the golden rule. You should return to your discussion about my multiple brains. Written after Babble, babble toil and trabble.What do you mean "written after?"
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 16, 2018 18:34:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 18:49:11 GMT
It's not my fault you write in incoherent, incomplete sentences.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 16, 2018 18:53:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 18:57:22 GMT
I don't know what a Moses myth is, sorry.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 16, 2018 19:02:02 GMT
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