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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 6, 2018 16:52:40 GMT
I wasn't following the discussion you guys are talking about, but a necessary characteristic of a straw man is that you're presenting it as (a paraphrase or summary of) the other guy's argument. So if that wasn't being done, it's not a straw man. The way to remember that is that think of literal strawmen/scarecrows. A scarecrow is a "mock" version of a man. There's some attempt to make it look like the real thing, but it's missing a lot of features and details of the real thing. It gets a lot of stuff wrong, so to speak, but presents as if it were the real thing. If only I had people like you around when I spent fifteen years teaching night classes in symbolic logic. They have classes on strawmen. Draw us a Venn diagram!
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 6, 2018 16:52:58 GMT
If only I had people like you around when I spent fifteen years teaching night classes in symbolic logic. I just deleted my reply to TP because I thought that my line "Far be it from me to make fun of somebody who taught Arguing 101 in college .... and he makes of fun of Maya for bullshit credentials" went too far. Also... I'm not really sure that TP is actually agreeing with you.... So you might want to hold off on the "suck up for affirmations" bit. When i claim to have 27 college degrees the first part of your post might have some validity. As for the second part, what the fuck leads you to think I thought he was agreeing with me?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:53:47 GMT
Watch out! Here come the CREDENTIALS! If Cody hadn't recently started back with a new account, I'd be tempted to accuse this imbecile of being Cody. No surprise. Your thing seems to be lobbing insults and then running. Should we conflate you with Cupcakes and call it even?
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 6, 2018 16:55:21 GMT
If Cody hadn't recently started back with a new account, I'd be tempted to accuse this imbecile of being Cody. No surprise. Your thing seems to be lobbing insults and then running. Should we conflate you with Cupcakes and call it even? Literally no part of that post even comes close to reality.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 6, 2018 16:56:27 GMT
I just deleted my reply to TP because I thought that my line "Far be it from me to make fun of somebody who taught Arguing 101 in college .... and he makes of fun of Maya for bullshit credentials" went too far. Also... I'm not really sure that TP is actually agreeing with you.... So you might want to hold off on the "suck up for affirmations" bit. When i claim to have 27 college degrees the first part of your post might have some validity. As for the second part, what the fuck leads you to think I thought he was agreeing with me? I'd like to respond to that... but, I'm sure what ever I wrote would be viewed as a strawman, Dr. Scarecrow.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 6, 2018 16:57:52 GMT
When i claim to have 27 college degrees the first part of your post might have some validity. As for the second part, what the fuck leads you to think I thought he was agreeing with me? I'd like to respond to that... but, I'm sure what ever I wrote would be viewed as a strawman, Dr. Scarecrow. Strawman or evasion, whichever you prefer.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 6, 2018 16:58:31 GMT
If only I had people like you around when I spent fifteen years teaching night classes in symbolic logic. They have classes on strawmen. Draw us a Venn diagram! QUICK! SOMEBODY START A THREAD ABOUT BASKETWEAVING!!! I'm sure there are at least 3 people on this board who taught that in night school.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:59:03 GMT
No surprise. Your thing seems to be lobbing insults and then running. Should we conflate you with Cupcakes and call it even? Literally no part of that post even comes close to reality. I don't think you understand what "literally" means. Oh, wait, here it comes....can't...hold...back... ... as someone who earned a degree in English, I'd be happy to help explain it to you.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 6, 2018 17:03:10 GMT
I'd like to respond to that... but, I'm sure what ever I wrote would be viewed as a strawman, Dr. Scarecrow. Strawman or evasion, whichever you prefer. I won't evade... so here we go: The first part is more of a joke... I know you are color-blind to those.. so it's understandable that you're just fucking clueless when it comes to them... The second part.. was an obvious suck up... You weren't thanking him for pointing out that you are wrong and correcting you.. Dude... Drink some milk and take a nap... You're cranky.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 6, 2018 17:06:03 GMT
Strawman or evasion, whichever you prefer. I won't evade... so here we go: The first part is more of a joke... I know you are color-blind to those.. so it's understandable that you're just fucking clueless when it comes to them... The second part.. was an obvious suck up... You weren't thanking him for pointing out that you are wrong and correcting you.. Dude... Drink some milk and take a nap... You're cranky. So I was sucking up by telling him he was wrong and I didn't need his correction since there was nothing to be corrected? I will never cease to be amazed by the way your mind works.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 6, 2018 17:09:28 GMT
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 6, 2018 17:12:57 GMT
And I was just about to ask if they had sarcasm where you're from or if it's all just jokes. Then you surprised me and actually got it right on the second try. Well done, give yourself a cookie little trooper. You came in second with zero competition.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 6, 2018 17:17:09 GMT
And I was just about to ask if they had sarcasm where you're from or if it's all just jokes. Then you surprised me and actually got it right on the second try. Well done, give yourself a cookie little trooper. You came in second with zero competition. Well if you're trying to be sarcastic... You might want to try using a or a But.. I know you have been teaching Emoticonics in night school for years... so old hat for you. edit:Also.... I was unintentionally giving you the benefit of the doubt of you being a complete asshole... I was wrong. You are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 17:20:28 GMT
And I was just about to ask if they had sarcasm where you're from or if it's all just jokes. Then you surprised me and actually got it right on the second try. Well done, give yourself a cookie little trooper. You came in second with zero competition. Well if you're trying to be sarcastic... You might want to try using a or a But.. I know you have been teaching Emoticonics in night school for years... so old hat for you. I lol'd, like so:
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 6, 2018 17:20:53 GMT
lowtacks86 You're changing the topic to one of raising a kid from one of how kids are made. Why? I mentioned no where in my posts the notion of parental responsibility. You started out with a post about how animals understand how babies are conceived (which I don't think is even really true) and then went on about how animals raise their young:
"I'm saying the animal population deals with it although, yes"
I pointed out how that's not necessarily true and now it sounds like you're moving the goalpost back to your orignal point. Your basically pulling a Trump: "That's not what I said!"
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 6, 2018 17:24:06 GMT
This whole thread has been...strawmandeered. Thanks a lot Cash!
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 6, 2018 17:24:48 GMT
"If a kid is 10 and doesn't know where babies come from, they have sucky parents and were probably almost aborted." ^That's a strawman. I know reality is your sworn enemy and especially whenever you have a fellow JW defender to defend, but fuck you. It's not a strawman if the post reference 10 year olds not knowing where babies come from. EDIT: Actually it could be a strawman since you define that, it's just so happened to also be germane to the topic. I never said 10 year olds, I said chidlren under 10. That's why it was a Strawman.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 6, 2018 17:31:30 GMT
It's not a strawman if the post reference 10 year olds not knowing where babies come from. EDIT: Actually it could be a strawman since you define that, it's just so happened to also be germane to the topic. I never said 10 year olds, I said chidlren under 10. That's why it was a Strawman. If he hadn't been a little chicken-shit I might have just accepted his claim that one was a joke (well, he did need Vegas to hold his hand and give him that out but I might have still been generous). However, there's no getting away from the fact the following one, which he's avoided, is a strawman: "To think that abortion is some kind of champion for the human race"
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 6, 2018 17:31:40 GMT
DanaShelbyChanceyHow is the argument killing a young innocent human being should be illegal full of holes?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 6, 2018 17:35:09 GMT
DanaShelbyChancey How is the argument killing a young innocent human being should be illegal full of holes? Probably because calling a fetus a "human being" is a bit of a stretch. Do you consider an acorn to be a tree?
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