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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 22:56:10 GMT
Well i took this test Find out about your past doing the psychological test for free!And this was my resultIn your previous life you were a scientist, a biochemist and a mechanic all in one. You worked on the development of new kinds of medicine for a biomedical company. However, your inventions were not revolutionary enough to make you well-known all around the world. Despite this, you had a very high IQ and you were also a pretty tenacious person. You were born in Washington in 1890 but due to your father´s job you had to move to New York when you were sixteen. You were brough up in a decent family and you had two sisters. Because you had a high IQ in you previous life, it is possible and predictable that you also have a high IQ today! When you were thirty-three you married your fianceé "Mary" and you lived a peaceful life in Kansas. You died on 3rd June 1954. Well is seem like i have gotten a lot dumber in this life.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 18, 2018 22:58:17 GMT
I beg to differ. I think the body and the brain act as a repository for the consciousness, and that when we sleep we don't simply "have dreams." The consciousness leaves and goes elsewhere. If you don't want to believe that, you don't have to. LOL! I don't. Where do you think 'elsewhere' is, Erjenious? What about during anaesthesia? Elsewhere is beyond 3-dimensional "reality," Your Gozness. I was under anesthesia only once and remember nothing about it, so I'm going to have to play the I Don't Know card.
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Post by goz on Mar 18, 2018 22:59:08 GMT
Well i took this test Find out about your past doing the psychological test for free!And this was my resultIn your previous life you were a scientist, a biochemist and a mechanic all in one. You worked on the development of new kinds of medicine for a biomedical company. However, your inventions were not revolutionary enough to make you well-known all around the world. Despite this, you had a very high IQ and you were also a pretty tenacious person. You were born in Washington in 1890 but due to your father´s job you had to move to New York when you were sixteen. You were brough up in a decent family and you had two sisters. Because you had a high IQ in you previous life, it is possible and predictable that you also have a high IQ today! When you were thirty-three you married your fianceé "Mary" and you lived a peaceful life in Kansas. You died on 3rd June 1954. Well is seem like i have gotten a lot dumber in this life. Gee, that's back luck. At least you are not a cockroach.
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Post by Catman on Mar 18, 2018 23:02:29 GMT
Well is seem like i have gotten a lot dumber in this life. This is not your fault. There is a fixed quantity of intelligence allocated to the human race to share, and the population keeps growing.
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Post by goz on Mar 18, 2018 23:02:48 GMT
LOL! I don't. Where do you think 'elsewhere' is, Erjenious? What about during anaesthesia? Elsewhere is beyond 3-dimensional "reality," Your Gozness. I was under anesthesia only once and remember nothing about it, so I'm going to have to play the I Don't Know card. What and where is that? This beyond 3 dimensional reality. Wise move about the 'Don't know' card. There should be more of it, in your case, and possibly mine too on some occasions!
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Post by goz on Mar 18, 2018 23:04:49 GMT
Well is seem like i have gotten a lot dumber in this life. This is not your fault. There is a fixed quantity of intelligence allocated to the human race to share, and the population keeps growing. That is obviously true of cats as well, and it is also obvious that they are getting smarter since responsible owners are having their cats desexed.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 18, 2018 23:33:24 GMT
Elsewhere is beyond 3-dimensional "reality," Your Gozness. I was under anesthesia only once and remember nothing about it, so I'm going to have to play the I Don't Know card. What and where is that? This beyond 3 dimensional reality. Wise move about the 'Don't know' card. There should be more of it, in your case, and possibly mine too on some occasions! No telling what goes on in the 95% of what is known to exist that we are locked out of. Human eyes only work on the visible light spectrum, y'know.
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Post by goz on Mar 19, 2018 1:59:22 GMT
What and where is that? This beyond 3 dimensional reality. Wise move about the 'Don't know' card. There should be more of it, in your case, and possibly mine too on some occasions! No telling what goes on in the 95% of what is known to exist that we are locked out of. Human eyes only work on the visible light spectrum, y'know. How do you know any of this? YouTube?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 19, 2018 3:35:47 GMT
No telling what goes on in the 95% of what is known to exist that we are locked out of. Human eyes only work on the visible light spectrum, y'know. How do you know any of this? YouTube? A little here, a little there. Some YouTube.
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Post by Marv on Mar 19, 2018 6:23:21 GMT
A tree.
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Post by Ainz_Ooal_Gown on Mar 19, 2018 6:36:35 GMT
A Welsh sheepherder (early 20th century)
An Ultramarine
A German shoemaker (mid to Late 18th century)
Some barbarian tribesman from a desert wasteland (have no idea where)
Japanese fisherman (probably warring states period)
That or my memory is some really fucked up shit that keeps inventing weird crap.
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Post by goz on Mar 19, 2018 22:28:10 GMT
If you are not talking about human consciousness what are you talking about? In bold...no you don't. You are only perceiving "consciousness awareness" as a human body\being, this is not what I was implying. When you die, it will the same as waking up from a dream.
How, if you don't have a functioning brain to be 'dreaming' with?
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Post by goz on Mar 20, 2018 0:26:51 GMT
What total nonsnese How, if you don't have a functioning brain to be 'dreaming' with? Who said "conscious awareness" has anything to do with dreams. All dreams are, are a storage of events, experiences and even emotions that get cached within our brains while it is still functioning our bodies. Some may dream more than others— this is also a product of an untrained mind—and some may not dream at all. Many ardent meditators wont. Dreams are illusions and mirror what we perceive as reality. It is at the end of the day, all still the same thing. When you are dreaming, we can often at times see it as being real, until we wake up. Heads or tails, it is still the same whole coin\change one is left with. It's about recognizing none of it is real, and beyond what we see as real, goes beyond the ego thinking mind and where is this? Are your thoughts real? Who said? YOU did. What total nonsense in your second para. The thoughts we have in our conscious minds are as real as our brain systems and process and its perceptions can make them. It is a fact that consciousness differs both in dreams, when affected by drugs or alcohol brain injury or surgery and under anaesthesia. HOWEVER the basis fundamental is that we actually have a living and functioning brain. When we are dead we do . Therefore we have NO consciousness, NO perception no brain function and are in oblivion. [/quote]
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 20, 2018 1:04:55 GMT
Kal-El of Krypton!
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Post by maya55555 on Mar 20, 2018 13:21:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 22:29:19 GMT
Well, I'm told that mathematics has verified the existence of dimensions above the 3rd, and I see no reason offhand to presume that consciousness can't survive in these dimensions. As for the cheap shot, look who's talking. You left the door wide open. ...except that 'consciousness' is seated in the chemistry and physics of the brain and that can only happen during life. Hence we are not conscious before or after we are born and consciousness dies with the brain. Have you heard of 'brain dead'? and the proposition of near death experiences has been debunked by science as the chemicals affecting the brain approaching death. There is a process of shutting down which can be reversed up to a point after which you are actually dead and irreversible, hence brain dead, without intervention like life support, the body follows soon after. Erjen was a member of the White Rose party. You know, the Nazi resistance group that fought against hatred of people based on ethnicity and sexual orientation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 22:31:36 GMT
In my past life I was actually a nice person who didn't troll. Now I'm just a complete jerk.
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Post by goz on Mar 21, 2018 3:56:45 GMT
What total nonsneseWho said? YOU did. What total nonsense in your second para. The thoughts we have in our conscious minds are as real as our brain systems and process and its perceptions can make them. It is a fact that consciousness differs both in dreams, when affected by drugs or alcohol brain injury or surgery and under anaesthesia. HOWEVER the basis fundamental is that we actually have a living and functioning brain. When we are dead we do . Therefore we have NO consciousness, NO perception no brain function and are in oblivion. Pure and authentic "consciousness awareness", has nothing to do with human or dream consciousness. These are only a projection of the human experience. Who are the thoughts real for though? You, me, little Johnny down the street. They are an abstract and intangible. Show me where they are? Perception is all illusion. What your experience is, is not mine. And when we are in oblivion, that is when you will fully awake. I just love that word, "oblivion". It's who we truly are. My thoughts are mine. Your thoughts are yours. We each die and our brain dies where we have the ability and infrastructure to think, so it all goes away. You and me and everyone. This is not a complex thought process for us whilst we are alive if a little confronting. We are who we truly are in our body if our mind is cogent, and with different cogencies according to the health of our brain. Oblivion is after there is no brain to process and so we are dead and not awake. We are who we truly are when we have a reasonably functioning brain otherwise we are brain damaged diseased or demented and once function ceases we are dead and in oblivion which means 'nothing' none no brain activity ie dead and gone.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 21, 2018 8:14:21 GMT
...except that 'consciousness' is seated in the chemistry and physics of the brain and that can only happen during life. Hence we are not conscious before or after we are born and consciousness dies with the brain. Have you heard of 'brain dead'? and the proposition of near death experiences has been debunked by science as the chemicals affecting the brain approaching death. There is a process of shutting down which can be reversed up to a point after which you are actually dead and irreversible, hence brain dead, without intervention like life support, the body follows soon after. Erjen was a member of the White Rose party. You know, the Nazi resistance group that fought against hatred of people based on ethnicity and sexual orientation. The White Rose began opposing the Nazis when they found out that the Nazis were feeding the German people a bunch of lies; telling them that they were winning the war when really they were losing it. It was still a moderately amusing post, though. 5/10.
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Post by goz on Mar 21, 2018 20:57:10 GMT
My thoughts are mine. Your thoughts are yours. We each die and our brain dies where we have the ability and infrastructure to think, so it all goes away. You and me and everyone.This is not a complex thought process for us whilst we are alive if a little confronting. We are who we truly are in our body if our mind is cogent, and with different cogencies according to the health of our brain. Oblivion is after there is no brain to process and so we are dead and not awake. We are who we truly are when we have a reasonably functioning brain otherwise we are brain damaged diseased or demented and once function ceases we are dead and in oblivion which means 'nothing' none no brain activity ie dead and gone. Our realities are created out of thought projection. That is how powerful your mind is. As you have stated, nothing is permanent, we each die; but you are arguing for yourself as an organic physical being "only". That is very limiting. Your brain is functioning your body and is the receptor of energy that courses through us. That energy is also connected to our subtle bodies, which is also a part of what created the universe, which we are also a part of, and it goes so much deeper. The energy that carries you forth in this lifetime, does not need a body in "oblivion", but it is still a larger part of the connected whole and part of your journey and purpose of why you are here. The suffering here on earth, is perpetuated by the notion of physical self only. There is no separateness and only connectedness in oblivion. This divinity is with is us always. Nonsense. Prove it.
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