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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 31, 2018 11:50:51 GMT
That's a common claim. "The world doesn't agree with me because they are stupid" Not a good argument. Maybe the world doesn't agree with you because you are in the minority and that's that. it's not a common claim, it's fact. No, it's just sour grapes. She has reason to be sour, since she's not as relevant as Gunn. Foster hasn't had a good movie or decent acting role in years.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 31, 2018 11:54:28 GMT
Singer wanted X3 delayed so he could finish up Superman Returns first, Fox wanted to rush it. that was not creative differences. His ideas for X3 sucked anyways. They aren't spun as such, it's just the truth. Even their worst movies still have good qualities to them. So it's bad enough that even two people can't agree on things, as opposed to the MCU where they mostly get along as long as the actors aren't Divas and the Directors aren't control freaks. The typical control freak directors don't like that they aren't allowed to twist characters into someone they're not because they have no respect for the source material. The MCU protects their characters from jerks like that, unlike FOX and WB. Glover played the race card for not getting to do whatever he wanted. See, before the MCU came around directors were allowed to do whatever they wanted to the Comic properties in the name of their "vision". Including twisting them all out of shape into different characters entirely. The MCU doesn't allow that, and apparently its' bad to not let a control freak do whatever they want.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 31, 2018 14:42:42 GMT
How is that Gambit movie coming along? How many directors left that movie? Remember when Singer was suppose to do X3? Remember when the execs didn't think Dark Phoenix was a good story and wanted The Cure instead? What happened with Fant4stic? Why isn't Tim Miller directing Deadpool 2? What happened to Matthew Vaughn directing DoFP? What happened with X-men Origins Wolverine? Remember when execs was repainting the sets? Don't act like there are creative differences only at Disney. There are creative differences at every creative arts job. HM, two different scenarios and more half assed lies. Gambit will never be made. nothing about gambit screams creative difference since no one has said so,Gambit feels more like, rushed with no focus. Singer wanted X3 delayed so he could finish up Superman Returns first, Fox wanted to rush it. that was not creative differences. Um, when did the Exces think DP was not a good story? not in the content of one film. Origins was a disappointing movie , it had nothing to do with creative differences that is Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3. but unlike MCU movies where even all their bad movies are tried to be spined as something good, origins was not and it was a good thing because we later got wolverine and logan. Ryan and tim split, it was a personal decision from both men, it was not the studio pulling strings like marvel. You can have creative differences but marvel's own is 10x more common for a sole reason. artists want to think things differently because they see things as craft, mcu just wants to dumb down everything and have everything follow their nonsense formula. that is the difference. the reason marvel and glover split is because marvel wants all their cartoons to remain terrible just for kids. that kind of creative differences does not happen with xmen movies. They are supposedly starting the filming of Gambit in June. Singer wanted to make X3, but Fox sat on their hands so Singer went to make Superman Returns instead. That's when Fox rushed X3 to spite Singer. Fox execs sat on their hands on Deadpool. That's why they "couldn't find a good story" until they magically found one when Miller and Reynolds leaked the test footage on the net. Funny that. Fox execs kept visiting the set of X-men Origins and repainting the sets. Reynolds and Miller split because one of them wanted the money that Fox was throwing at them and the other wanted the movie to stay low budget and gritty. Deadpool 2 looks crisp and full of money. So I'm guessing it was Reynolds that wanted all the moneys. Creative differences is creative differences. Apocalypse and Justice League. Those 2 movies are those studios trying to make an MCU movie, but having no clue how to do it. GIT ON MARVEL'S LEVEL!!! Git gud scrub or die trying.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 31, 2018 14:46:10 GMT
HM, two different scenarios and more half assed lies. Gambit will never be made. nothing about gambit screams creative difference since no one has said so,Gambit feels more like, rushed with no focus. Singer wanted X3 delayed so he could finish up Superman Returns first, Fox wanted to rush it. that was not creative differences. Um, when did the Exces think DP was not a good story? not in the content of one film. Origins was a disappointing movie , it had nothing to do with creative differences that is Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3. but unlike MCU movies where even all their bad movies are tried to be spined as something good, origins was not and it was a good thing because we later got wolverine and logan. Ryan and tim split, it was a personal decision from both men, it was not the studio pulling strings like marvel. You can have creative differences but marvel's own is 10x more common for a sole reason. artists want to think things differently because they see things as craft, mcu just wants to dumb down everything and have everything follow their nonsense formula. that is the difference. the reason marvel and glover split is because marvel wants all their cartoons to remain terrible just for kids. that kind of creative differences does not happen with xmen movies. They are supposedly starting the filming of Gambit in June. Singer wanted to make X3, but Fox sat on their hands so Singer went to make Superman Returns instead. That's when Fox rushed X3 to spite Singer. Fox execs sat on their hands on Deadpool. That's why they "couldn't find a good story" until they magically found one when Miller and Reynolds leaked the test footage on the net. Funny that. Fox execs kept visiting the set of X-men Origins and repainting the sets. Reynolds and Miller split because one of them wanted the money that Fox was throwing at them and the other wanted the movie to stay low budget and gritty. Deadpool 2 looks crisp and full of money. So I'm guessing it was Reynolds that wanted all the moneys. Creative differences is creative differences. Apocalypse and Justice League. Those 2 movies are those studios trying to make an MCU movie, but having no clue how to do it. GIT ON MARVEL'S LEVEL!!! Git gud scrub or die trying. You know he's just going to spew some nonsense about how the X-Men are incompatible with the MCU's style and how they work better when they don't do actual comic-book faithful stuff, right?
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 31, 2018 14:49:40 GMT
Also, anybody else find it funny that the reason they delay movies is because they "can't find a good story"? They always have that bull reason that they are trying to get the story just right when they have the stories in the comics. Just read the character's Wiki and then look for those corresponding comic issues. It's not like they are trying to come up with stories from scratch. The Batman hasn't come out because they haven't come up with a good story. Gambit can't get the story right (even though they have done casting calls twice). Flash can't get the story right (even though they are doing Flashpoint...). Seems the only people that can get the story right are the ones getting butts in theaters. Funny that.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 31, 2018 14:51:39 GMT
They are supposedly starting the filming of Gambit in June. Singer wanted to make X3, but Fox sat on their hands so Singer went to make Superman Returns instead. That's when Fox rushed X3 to spite Singer. Fox execs sat on their hands on Deadpool. That's why they "couldn't find a good story" until they magically found one when Miller and Reynolds leaked the test footage on the net. Funny that. Fox execs kept visiting the set of X-men Origins and repainting the sets. Reynolds and Miller split because one of them wanted the money that Fox was throwing at them and the other wanted the movie to stay low budget and gritty. Deadpool 2 looks crisp and full of money. So I'm guessing it was Reynolds that wanted all the moneys. Creative differences is creative differences. Apocalypse and Justice League. Those 2 movies are those studios trying to make an MCU movie, but having no clue how to do it. GIT ON MARVEL'S LEVEL!!! Git gud scrub or die trying. You know he's just going to spew some nonsense about how the X-Men are incompatible with the MCU's style and how they work better when they don't do actual comic-book faithful stuff, right? Isn't he the same guy that would post about how they are faithful to the comics? With comic panels as proof.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 31, 2018 14:56:36 GMT
You know he's just going to spew some nonsense about how the X-Men are incompatible with the MCU's style and how they work better when they don't do actual comic-book faithful stuff, right? Isn't he the same guy that would post about how they are faithful to the comics? With comic panels as proof. Yeah, he also talks about how great Legion is when truth is Legion has very little to do with the original comic character. He's all about staying true to the letter of the comics (or at least what he THINKS is the letter) rather than the spirit.
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Post by harpospoke on Mar 31, 2018 17:22:23 GMT
The typical control freak directors don't like that they aren't allowed to twist characters into someone they're not because they have no respect for the source material. The MCU protects their characters from jerks like that, unlike FOX and WB. Glover played the race card for not getting to do whatever he wanted. See, before the MCU came around directors were allowed to do whatever they wanted to the Comic properties in the name of their "vision". Including twisting them all out of shape into different characters entirely. The MCU doesn't allow that, and apparently its' bad to not let a control freak do whatever they want. See The Last Jedi for an example of how it can fly off the rails. The "vision" that ignores the established characters and story can become a huge mess in a hurry. So even Disney does it. Thank god Marvel is allowed to control their property.
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Post by harpospoke on Mar 31, 2018 17:23:39 GMT
That's a common claim. "The world doesn't agree with me because they are stupid" Not a good argument. Maybe the world doesn't agree with you because you are in the minority and that's that. it's not a common claim, it's fact. MCU fans you people should have listened to Jodi forster instead of james gunn. she has no reason to lie No...the only "fact" is in your brain. You actually claimed that the world is stupid because they don't agree with your minority opinion on art. That's the definition of elitism.
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Post by harpospoke on Mar 31, 2018 17:24:24 GMT
You know what is taken seriously? his real anger at marvel-disney due to creative differences. deja vu? Remember Ed Norton, Edward Wright, Joss Whedon, Jon F, Parry Jenkins, Alan Taylor, Mikey Rouke. Remember when they all left marvel due to creative differences? Marvel today has awful animations. wonder why How is that Gambit movie coming along? How many directors left that movie? Remember when Singer was suppose to do X3? Remember when the execs didn't think Dark Phoenix was a good story and wanted The Cure instead? What happened with Fant4stic? Why isn't Tim Miller directing Deadpool 2? What happened to Matthew Vaughn directing DoFP? What happened with X-men Origins Wolverine? Remember when execs was repainting the sets? Don't act like there are creative differences only at Disney. There are creative differences at every creative arts job. Bingo. That's the problem with these fake complaints about Marvel. The anti-MCU crowd just looks around for random things to complain about and they don't think it through. "Bad Marvel villains"? Really? Since when are villains a big deal? This whole thing started when DC and Fox fans were desperate for "flaws" with the MCU. Notice no one ever talks about the villain in Raiders of the Lost Ark? Because it's not nearly as important as claimed. Marvel actually has the best villains in the CB movie genre right now. Last year all the best villains in CB movies were in MCU movies. Hela, Vulture, Ego were miles better than "what's his name" from Logan, "CGI guy" from JL, and Ares from WW. But naturally that doesn't fit the narrative so those toss away villains are somehow not a problem. Now suddenly Marvel is hard to get along with because they won't let directors just go nuts and ruin the continuity of the MCU. I guess a Fox fan thinks it's normal to be so random with the story line, but that's not a good thing. Edgar Wright was dragging his feet for years and frankly Marvel was more than patient with him. But enough is enough. And Edward Norton is famous in Hollywood for being hard to get along with....but it's only brought up with Marvel? Yeah...no agenda there. Ryan Reynolds himself had to fight with Fox for 10 years to get DP made and Fox gets to be the hero of that tale? Give me a break...Fox got lucky that RR didn't give up and practically twisted their arm to get DP made. Now there is an attempt to rewrite history where Fox is this brave little studio who was just aching to make an R rated DP movie. Good lord....we all can remember what actually happened there. Not sure how anyone can seriously make these claims.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 31, 2018 21:31:59 GMT
How is that Gambit movie coming along? How many directors left that movie? Remember when Singer was suppose to do X3? Remember when the execs didn't think Dark Phoenix was a good story and wanted The Cure instead? What happened with Fant4stic? Why isn't Tim Miller directing Deadpool 2? What happened to Matthew Vaughn directing DoFP? What happened with X-men Origins Wolverine? Remember when execs was repainting the sets? Don't act like there are creative differences only at Disney. There are creative differences at every creative arts job. Bingo. That's the problem with these fake complaints about Marvel. The anti-MCU crowd just looks around for random things to complain about and they don't think it through. "Bad Marvel villains"? Really? Since when are villains a big deal? This whole thing started when DC and Fox fans were desperate for "flaws" with the MCU. Notice no one ever talks about the villain in Raiders of the Lost Ark? Because it's not nearly as important as claimed. Marvel actually has the best villains in the CB movie genre right now. Last year all the best villains in CB movies were in MCU movies. Hela, Vulture, Ego were miles better than "what's his name" from Logan, "CGI guy" from JL, and Ares from WW. But naturally that doesn't fit the narrative so those toss away villains are somehow not a problem. Now suddenly Marvel is hard to get along with because they won't let directors just go nuts and ruin the continuity of the MCU. I guess a Fox fan thinks it's normal to be so random with the story line, but that's not a good thing. Edgar Wright was dragging his feet for years and frankly Marvel was more than patient with him. But enough is enough. And Edward Norton is famous in Hollywood for being hard to get along with....but it's only brought up with Marvel? Yeah...no agenda there. Ryan Reynolds himself had to fight with Fox for 10 years to get DP made and Fox gets to be the hero of that tale? Give me a break...Fox got lucky that RR didn't give up and practically twisted their arm to get DP made. Now there is an attempt to rewrite history where Fox is this brave little studio who was just aching to make an R rated DP movie. Good lord....we all can remember what actually happened there. Not sure how anyone can seriously make these claims. Because none of that fits their narrative of Disney being the bad guys. It came out that Justice League failed because the execs wanted their bonus, but it was Whedon's fault the movie failed and they want a Snyder cut. Even when his previous DCEU movies were crap. They cry about Fox making R rated movies, but they not talking about how Fox will only make fringe movies R rated. Hell, they won't even make New Mutants R rated. They've even said that the main X-men movies will stay PG13. But for some reason they got it in their head that they make adult PG13 movies... What?! As for bad guys... Every villain for the X-men movies was a side antagonist and Magneto. Every villain from the Wolverine movies was a silent science experiment. Even in Apocalypse they quickly killed Apocalypse after they turned Magneto back to "good". Would any of the villains be memorable if Magneto was not in the movies? The only villain problem that Marvel has is that they don't have the overly popular ones. But they did make the best of the ones they do have. What did WB and Fox do with their villains? Reuse them over and over again. How many more times are we going to see Phoenix, Zod, Magneto, Joker, Two-Face, Bane, Stryker and Mystique?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 0:18:55 GMT
That's a common claim. "The world doesn't agree with me because they are stupid" Not a good argument. Maybe the world doesn't agree with you because you are in the minority and that's that. it's not a common claim, it's fact. MCU fans you people should have listened to Jodi forster instead of james gunn. she has no reason to lie It's only a fact in your head you delusional idiot. You actually think that moron Jodi Forester was talking only about MCU movies? Geez talk about protective. Everytime someone talks shit about CBMs you blame MCU when in reality MCU is keeping the franchise alive with high ratings and box office. You can't even type properly and claim to be more intelligent than us. I'm a fan of the X Men movies, Nolan's trilogy, DCEU and MCU; they've all contributed to the genre and people that hate on it are talking about them in general. You give me and other X Men fans a bad name by being this aggressive to the MCU and it's fans. Let people praise what they want. If you can't understand that then hand back your geek card.
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