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Post by summers8 on Mar 29, 2018 1:53:12 GMT
LOL...Where u at? those telling me Disney will not dumb down xmen and have xmen follow their garbage childish mcu formula movies and cartoons. Under disney their is no Logan, X2, DOFP, X-Men TAS, Legion, Deadpool. www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/28/donald-glover-slams-marvel-after-his-deadpool-exit/So um, Deadpool's cartoon was cancelled because Disney hated it. it was too grown up for them because adult content cartoons like X-men TAS never happened and DC cartoons are not happening? Disney is that high on drugs? Um, did we real xmen fans not predict this? that disney will rob xmen of its creative independence. tell me again? how Disney is good for xmen? So where does Donald Glover rank in the list of film and tv artists that hates Marvel? I will rank him next to James Mangold because he too was an xmen guy and he warned us this was coming. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 29, 2018 1:59:46 GMT
LOL...Where u at? those telling me Disney will not dumb down xmen and have xmen follow their garbage childish mcu formula movies and cartoons. Under disney their is no Logan, X2, DOFP, X-Men TAS, Legion, Deadpool. Logan was only received well due to it being Jackmans' Swan Song. X2 was just a rehash of X1, DOFP only was received well because the Old Cast came back for their silly fairytale ending, the 90s X-men cartoon was actually not that good, Legion is just Legion in name, and Deadpool is going to suck now that Fox is interfering with it. Meanwhile Disney makes a Black Panther movie that blows the FoX-Men away. Their "formula" is that they get their movies done on time, don't need reshoots, they're done on budget and they don't hire divas. And they have a better success run than Pixar, they've revolutionized the CBM genre in ways Fox never could. Nah it probably just wasn't any good. Deadpool's a one-trick pony anyways. No, the phoney FoX-Men fans thought about it though. They're going to pull an outdated series into the future, whether the throwbacks like it or not. Mangold is a buffoon who's high off of one success, he's the kind of guy who'd do a Spidey movie just to have a sex scene between Teen Peter and Teen MJ. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 29, 2018 2:20:44 GMT
The Wolverine 2013 was a refreshing change from the cookie cutter Disney MCU films with board room inserted comedy moments.
Disney wants full spectrum dominance. Not even Thanos is so selfish.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 29, 2018 2:33:21 GMT
Predictable, and rather silly how Logan is weeping over Jean Grey when he barely knew her in the first place. As opposed to Fox and DC's way of doing things, with there character mostly all grim bitter nihilists with the same flat characterization. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 29, 2018 2:35:36 GMT
Predictable, and rather silly how Logan is weeping over Jean Grey when he barely knew her in the first place. As opposed to Fox and DC's way of doing things, with there character mostly all grim bitter nihilists with the same flat characterization. Still liked Wolverine better than Disney MCU jokey messes. If they didnt offer critics free hotel rooms... |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 29, 2018 2:53:45 GMT
Predictable, and rather silly how Logan is weeping over Jean Grey when he barely knew her in the first place. As opposed to Fox and DC's way of doing things, with there character mostly all grim bitter nihilists with the same flat characterization. Still liked Wolverine better than Disney MCU jokey messes. Duh, you're into that creatively bankrupt and obsolete "grounded" approach instead of anything inventive. |
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 29, 2018 2:55:49 GMT
Um, did we real xmen fans not predict this? that disney will rob xmen of its creative independence. tell me again? how Disney is good for xmen? Oh, you consider yourself a true X-men fan? The one who thinks Fox did such a stellar job portraying Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Gambit and Jean Grey in their movies? |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 29, 2018 3:05:58 GMT
Duh, you're into that creatively bankrupt and obsolete "grounded" approach instead of anything inventive. Stories created in Wall Street board rooms are not inventive. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 29, 2018 3:22:52 GMT
Duh, you're into that creatively bankrupt and obsolete "grounded" approach instead of anything inventive. Stories created in Wall Street board rooms are not inventive. Exactly what Fox and WB have been giving us, I agree. Leave it to them, the Guardians of the Galaxy would be a psychotic Biker Gang who think they're aliens. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 29, 2018 3:29:43 GMT
Exactly what Fox and WB have been giving us, I agree. Leave it to them, the Guardians of the Galaxy would be a psychotic Biker Gang who think they're aliens. I get the feeling you are paid to post. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 29, 2018 3:43:13 GMT
1) He's not an X-Men artist.
2) The script he shared on his Twitter wasn't meant to be taken very seriously. Glover has a background in comedy from stand-up to being involved in plenty sitcoms for the small and big screen.
3) Glover helped Ryan Coogler out with Marvel's Black Panther and received a special thanks in the end credits.
4) Glover is Lando in Solo: A Star Wars Story coming out in May, and he is voicing Simba in the remake of The Lion King.
He is not happy about the series being canned, but he has intention to hate on Marvel in particular and Disney in general and abandon association with them in the near future. Disney will sooner than later own FX which produces and airs Glover's acclaimed series Atlanta.
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Post by summers8 on Mar 29, 2018 3:44:12 GMT
Um, did we real xmen fans not predict this? that disney will rob xmen of its creative independence. tell me again? how Disney is good for xmen? Oh, you consider yourself a true X-men fan? The one who thinks Fox did such a stellar job portraying Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Gambit and Jean Grey in their movies? storm was good in X2 and X3. she did more and showed more depth than black widow ever did. Cyclops was treated badly but I appreciate Singer's honesty that he did not understand the character unlike Disney that dumbs down their characters Gambit has never gotten his dues..yet. Jean was good in X1, X2. X3 As an x-men fan I care about the tone and content of xmen. that is what makes xmen and if you read xmen, you must know in most story arc 1 or 2 characters drive it. Poor MCU fans lying all the time is not going to make Disney 's xmen good. disney xmen will be a cancer to cinema. thank goodness there was a cure in DOFP, X2, Logan before the cancer was ever created. |
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Post by summers8 on Mar 29, 2018 3:47:56 GMT
1) He's not an X-Men artist. 2) The script he shared on his Twitter wasn't meant to be taken very seriously. Glover has a background in comedy from stand-up to being involved in plenty sitcoms for the small and big screen. 3) Glover helped Ryan Coogler out with Marvel's Black Panther and received a special thanks in the end credits. 4) Glover is Lando in Solo: A Star Wars Story coming out in May, and he is voicing Simba in the remake of The Lion King. He is not happy about the series being canned, but he has intention to hate on Marvel in particular and Disney in general and abandon association with them in the near future. Disney will sooner than later own FX which produces and airs Glover's acclaimed series Atlanta. You know what is taken seriously? his real anger at marvel-disney due to creative differences. deja vu? Remember Ed Norton, Edward Wright, Joss Whedon, Jon F, Parry Jenkins, Alan Taylor, Mikey Rouke. Remember when they all left marvel due to creative differences? Marvel today has awful animations. wonder why |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 29, 2018 3:54:23 GMT
1) He's not an X-Men artist. 2) The script he shared on his Twitter wasn't meant to be taken very seriously. Glover has a background in comedy from stand-up to being involved in plenty sitcoms for the small and big screen. 3) Glover helped Ryan Coogler out with Marvel's Black Panther and received a special thanks in the end credits. 4) Glover is Lando in Solo: A Star Wars Story coming out in May, and he is voicing Simba in the remake of The Lion King. He is not happy about the series being canned, but he has intention to hate on Marvel in particular and Disney in general and abandon association with them in the near future. Disney will sooner than later own FX which produces and airs Glover's acclaimed series Atlanta. You know what is taken seriously? his real anger at marvel-disney due to creative differences. deja vu? Remember Ed Norton, Edward Wright, Joss Whedon, Jon F, Parry Jenkins, Alan Taylor, Mikey Rouke. Remember when they all left marvel due to creative differences? Marvel today has awful animations. wonder why You ignored every point that I made. Glover has no ill will to wish upon Disney and Marvel, the "script" he shared was not supposed to be taken seriously. If Glover has such a dislike for them THEN WHY IS HE VOICING SIMBA IN THEIR REMAKE OF THE LION KING? WHY did he stay on board of SOLO as Lando? Answer, pronto. In regards to your list of artists - Ed Norton and Mickey Rourke let their egos get the better of them, Jon Favreau is still involved with Marvel and doing films for Disney, Patty Jenkins left because of creative differences and it was an amicable departure, Joss Whedon forgot that his film couldn't be entirely stand alone, Edgar Wright waited too long to get Ant-Man going, and Alan Taylor got more creative control on his next film which was Terminator: Genysis( We all know how that turned out). |
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Post by blockbusted on Mar 29, 2018 5:18:54 GMT
You know what is taken seriously? his real anger at marvel-disney due to creative differences. deja vu? Remember Ed Norton, Edward Wright, Joss Whedon, Jon F, Parry Jenkins, Alan Taylor, Mikey Rouke. Remember when they all left marvel due to creative differences? Marvel today has awful animations. wonder why You ignored every point that I made. Glover has no ill will to wish upon Disney and Marvel, the "script" he shared was not supposed to be taken seriously. If Glover has such a dislike for them THEN WHY IS HE VOICING SIMBA IN THEIR REMAKE OF THE LION KING? WHY did he stay on board of SOLO as Lando? Answer, pronto. In regards to your list of artists - Ed Norton and Mickey Rourke let their egos get the better of them, Jon Favreau is still involved with Marvel and doing films for Disney, Patty Jenkins left because of creative differences and it was an amicable departure, Joss Whedon forgot that his film couldn't be entirely stand alone, Edgar Wright waited too long to get Ant-Man going, and Alan Taylor got more creative control on his next film which was Terminator: Genysis( We all know how that turned out). Also, Whedon got into a fight with Perlmutter. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 29, 2018 7:52:49 GMT
Honestly Joss Whedon leaving was a good thing.
He was the one that turned Ultron into a fucking Joke dispenser.
As for this whole Deadpool cartoon thing, I rather have Ryan Reynolds be the one to make it.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 29, 2018 10:02:35 GMT
Logan was only received well due to it being Jackmans' Swan Song. X2 was just a rehash of X1, DOFP only was received well because the Old Cast came back for their silly fairytale ending, the 90s X-men cartoon was actually not that good, Legion is just Legion in name, and Deadpool is going to suck now that Fox is interfering with it. Silly reasons. All those movies are superior to MCUs library. The only reason they haven't made a billion dollars is because the general audience are stupid and dumb and are impressed by Marvels jokey lighthearted tone, extravagant CGI and thinly developed plots as straight forward as they come. Those X-films may have aesthetic deficiencies and character under development of some Xmen, but they capture the spirit and tone of the comics in a way Disney wouldnt allow. Black panther only is successful because 1) Disney's PR machine 2) Artificially boosted with the whole first black cast superhero movie fanfare. The fact that a lot of people went to black panther when they arent even interested in the MCU as a whole proves it You keep saying Singer and Nolan nearly destroyed the CBM. Well Disney are doing it right now. People are becoming normalized with the CBMs MCU are putting out, thinking all heros are just laid back arrogant white guys who quip and joke in serious moments. Never go through struggle and silly villains who are easily defeated in a typical 3rd act CGI eye sore. Thin un-challenging plots with no depth in subtext or showing any pressing philosophy like Raimi, Nolan, Mangold or Singer made front and centre of their movies. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Mar 29, 2018 10:45:56 GMT
Um, did we real xmen fans not predict this? that disney will rob xmen of its creative independence. tell me again? how Disney is good for xmen? Oh, you consider yourself a true X-men fan? The one who thinks Fox did such a stellar job portraying Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Gambit and Jean Grey in their movies? they did a steller job of portraying charaters like Logan, Magneto, Prof X or even support characters like Quick Silver (unlike the forgettable MCU version): Boosting X characters in the top ten Best Movie Villains/Best Hero charts.
Sorry, that Fox did not manage to give every charater you like the protrayal you would approve of. Unlike Marvel, Fox has to do all those quality movies too. This year they dominated the Oscars with Shape of water, 3 Billboards, Logan etc and won. You cannot mass produce this stuff like formulaic junk food.
But you can send your complaint to Disney anytime...then again, think how much MCU messed up main characters like Thor, not just by inconsistently making him a generic joke dispenser and crybaby, but also by ruining the epic mythological character of Thor.
If they can do it with Thor & Co, guess what's comming for the X-Men...
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Post by scabab on Mar 29, 2018 11:08:32 GMT
I'm sure Disney will do a fantastic job with the look of the X-men, it's costumes and its world...I would be concerned they'd make it kid friendly though.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 29, 2018 11:15:21 GMT
Oh, you consider yourself a true X-men fan? The one who thinks Fox did such a stellar job portraying Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Gambit and Jean Grey in their movies? storm was good in X2 and X3. she did more and showed more depth than black widow ever did. Sad thing is you're serous with this. Storm was wasted through and through, and has none of Natasha's depth. Disney doesn't dumb down anything, and they don't hire Prima Donnas like Singer. They took Tony Stark's alcohol plot in IM3 and turned it into PTSD. And they didn't take the lazy way out of having someone else get Stark out of it, instead he has to deal with it and overcome it without some magic talk with his future self. AND his later character is still affected by his experiences, unlike Xavier who has completely forgotten he was an alcoholic and a junkie for a decade ONE SCENE later. She was nothing but a lust object for Logan. And Logan barely knew her at that! Yet somehow you like Fox. Disney itself will do that. It fixed Spidey and it'll recreate the X-Men. |
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