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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 8, 2018 0:49:12 GMT
Well yeah. epitome of CBMS. Logan, DOFP and X2. ask any comic fan, non comic fan, film makers, critics. they will say the same thing. I think it is only the winter solider that can make a case to be there. sigh, 1 out of 18 mcu movies. the rest are what exactly? X-Men, First Class and Deadpool are not that far behind in really great. Also look at x-men, never a flop for fox and fox does not chase the dumb masses or kids. is that not who disney chases after and they have suffered more losses. Is it the best and adult comic franchise? apart from the nolan TDK series, which is better? lol, your mcu movies that no one takes seriously? or your mcu movies that tries to steal ideas from xmen to look serious once in a while?Poor MCU fans, you don't realise the artistic disaster MCU is, their movies are so below comic films standard that to make a good comic film you have to be anti mcu even if it is satire comedy like Tim Miller's Deadpool. You have to be anti MCU. LOL. No wonder MCU fans can't stand movies like DOFP and Logan and want the upcoming Venom to fail. So Fox shouldn't be afraid of Fantastic Beasts 2. And Fox don't chase the "dumb masses or kids"? They actually said that no X-men movie will be rated R. They will stay at the most PG13. Deadpool is not an X-men movie. Logan is not an X-men movie. Remember how people were crying for a rated R New Mutants horror movie? Nope gotta keep it PG13 to get kids in. What are you talking about the MCU suffered more losses? No one takes seriously? People are crying watching the latest Infinity War trailer because they are realizing their favorite characters are dying. They've lived with these character during the last 10 years. People have gotten attached. No one has gotten attached to any of the X-men characters. No one cares about them. They have 4 main characters and people are getting sick of them. What ideas did the MCU steal from the X-men movies? Was it Quicksilver? Or was that Fox trying to get the jump on the MCU because the MCU was going to use him? Remember when Juggernaut was going to be in DoFP? Or maybe it's the Skrulls that are going to be in Captain Marvel... Oh wait X-men is going to throw them in Dark Phoenix. Actually, people wanted Venom to be good. But the idea that Venom will skip Spider-man turns people off. Just having a movie about Brock getting a symbiote doesn't fascinate anyone. Why does he look like Spider-man when he isn't associated with him? When you take Spider-man out of the equation, you take away 90% of the point of Venom. You’re forgetting about Nightcrawler(Alan Cumming), Quicksilver, Laura, and the cast of Legion & Gifted.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 0:53:34 GMT
Stupid movie with their stupid jokes. Dumbing it down for the stupid masses. Thats a textbook tension reliever because it doesnt interfere with the seriousness of Charles/Erics argument. All Xmen humour is seperated from dramatic setup scenes. MCU take the opposite approach and insert it alongside serious moments creating contrasting emotions. Ragnarok, homecoming and GOTG2 was full of em. Ah yes, their argument. Where Erik gets mad that Charles doesn't care a bunch of murderous terrorists and killers got what was coming to them. How deep. MCU merely accepts that levity will find its way to everything, instead of some Oscar-Bait silliness where there can never ever be any levity anywhere anytime in any movie.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 0:54:17 GMT
So Fox shouldn't be afraid of Fantastic Beasts 2. And Fox don't chase the "dumb masses or kids"? They actually said that no X-men movie will be rated R. They will stay at the most PG13. Deadpool is not an X-men movie. Logan is not an X-men movie. Remember how people were crying for a rated R New Mutants horror movie? Nope gotta keep it PG13 to get kids in. What are you talking about the MCU suffered more losses? No one takes seriously? People are crying watching the latest Infinity War trailer because they are realizing their favorite characters are dying. They've lived with these character during the last 10 years. People have gotten attached. No one has gotten attached to any of the X-men characters. No one cares about them. They have 4 main characters and people are getting sick of them. What ideas did the MCU steal from the X-men movies? Was it Quicksilver? Or was that Fox trying to get the jump on the MCU because the MCU was going to use him? Remember when Juggernaut was going to be in DoFP? Or maybe it's the Skrulls that are going to be in Captain Marvel... Oh wait X-men is going to throw them in Dark Phoenix. Actually, people wanted Venom to be good. But the idea that Venom will skip Spider-man turns people off. Just having a movie about Brock getting a symbiote doesn't fascinate anyone. Why does he look like Spider-man when he isn't associated with him? When you take Spider-man out of the equation, you take away 90% of the point of Venom. You’re forgetting about Nightcrawler(Alan Cumming), Quicksilver, Laura, and the cast of Legion & Gifted. Cumming doesn't care much, otherwise he'd have come back after X2. Evans has nothing else but Quicksilver, same with Keene and the casts of those shows.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 0:59:13 GMT
WOW. that is not a tension breaker. LOL. XAVIER STOMPED OFF IN ANGER. logan and magneto have a heated sarcastic exchange, nothing is funny there. this is a tension breaker. lol. mcu needs to sell toys even in action high stakes moments. lol. thatguy you are just using anything you cant find. find it better in the mcu confirmed comedies. see what happens when you lie. infinty war is comedy. tony and steve are in avengers 4. lol. Human nature says people will cry if infinity wars is like Return of the king, but it is not. mcu fans will laugh, smart people will cringe. Only this time, Clint Eastwood will tell us MCU movie are bad again. Actually that is a tension breaker. The point of a tension breaker is to let the audience breath. That's what humor at the end of the scene does. The tension in the airplane keeps building and building until Logan ends the seen with "Wanna pick all that shit up?" That's meant to be a joke line to break tension. To make the audience laugh and let out the breath they were holding. Just because you want these movies to be all serious doesn't mean they are totally serious. NO ITS NOT. because it is not funny. logan said it with sarcasm and anger.Nice try. remember xmen movies are drama with some humour moments. MCU are full on comedies. this is a tension breaker. the big bad taking down for cheap laughs. and you wonder why whedon sort of disowned this movie and said it could have been better.
watch this video to know why
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Post by charzhino on Apr 8, 2018 1:00:33 GMT
Thats a textbook tension reliever because it doesnt interfere with the seriousness of Charles/Erics argument. All Xmen humour is seperated from dramatic setup scenes. MCU take the opposite approach and insert it alongside serious moments creating contrasting emotions. Ragnarok, homecoming and GOTG2 was full of em. Ah yes, their argument. Where Erik gets mad that Charles doesn't care a bunch of murderous terrorists and killers got what was coming to them. How deep. What are you talking about, Erik is mad because Xavier thinks Magneto had it easy. Both were worse off after the end of First Class. Which is why MCU wont make a great scene like that airplane argument or a Magneto like Fox has written. They will make the Xmen wisecracking one dimensional comedians and water down any subtext or thematic depth thats present in every Xmen story.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 1:02:03 GMT
Actually that is a tension breaker. The point of a tension breaker is to let the audience breath. That's what humor at the end of the scene does. The tension in the airplane keeps building and building until Logan ends the seen with "Wanna pick all that shit up?" That's meant to be a joke line to break tension. To make the audience laugh and let out the breath they were holding. Just because you want these movies to be all serious doesn't mean they are totally serious. NO ITS NOT. Yes it is, and poorly done too. Nah, X-Men's just pretentious. MCU is unashamed and unpretentious. A nice way of putting a pompous person in their place after they've lost. Wish more heroes would do that instead of letting the villain ramble on. Because someone who hasn't had a hit in years is jealous.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 1:03:32 GMT
Ah yes, their argument. Where Erik gets mad that Charles doesn't care a bunch of murderous terrorists and killers got what was coming to them. How deep. What are you talking about, Erik is mad because Xavier thinks Magneto had it easy. Both were worse off after the end of First Class. No, Charles was the worse one off. Magneto did have it easy, and he expects Charles to be upset the traitors and murderers got what they deserved. So they won't make the villain the real star of the film, instead relying on flawed protagonists and internal conflict, and they won't glorify terrorism and extremism. Good.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 1:05:51 GMT
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 8, 2018 1:09:53 GMT
I think summers8 is a DC-fan alternate account.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 1:11:31 GMT
lOL. So let get get this straight. fox is pg 13 but they allowed drug hippie xavier in DOFP and Disney banned that in iron man 3 for kids. No, they changed a generic booze storyline to Tony having PTSD instead and his mental instability. In favor of PTSD. And had Tony deal with it more realistically than Xavier did. Xavier gets over things magically, Tony doesn't. Pixar, who have one of the best movie success streaks ever.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 1:12:29 GMT
I think summers8 is a DC-fan alternate account. No, he's just your typical Toxic X-Fan. The one who hates all other Marvel characters except maybe Spidey. I've dealt with him before, and he predictably lost his mind at someone pointing out flaws in X-Men.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 8, 2018 1:21:33 GMT
So Fox shouldn't be afraid of Fantastic Beasts 2. And Fox don't chase the "dumb masses or kids"? They actually said that no X-men movie will be rated R. They will stay at the most PG13. Deadpool is not an X-men movie. Logan is not an X-men movie. Remember how people were crying for a rated R New Mutants horror movie? Nope gotta keep it PG13 to get kids in. What are you talking about the MCU suffered more losses? No one takes seriously? People are crying watching the latest Infinity War trailer because they are realizing their favorite characters are dying. They've lived with these character during the last 10 years. People have gotten attached. No one has gotten attached to any of the X-men characters. No one cares about them. They have 4 main characters and people are getting sick of them. What ideas did the MCU steal from the X-men movies? Was it Quicksilver? Or was that Fox trying to get the jump on the MCU because the MCU was going to use him? Remember when Juggernaut was going to be in DoFP? Or maybe it's the Skrulls that are going to be in Captain Marvel... Oh wait X-men is going to throw them in Dark Phoenix. Actually, people wanted Venom to be good. But the idea that Venom will skip Spider-man turns people off. Just having a movie about Brock getting a symbiote doesn't fascinate anyone. Why does he look like Spider-man when he isn't associated with him? When you take Spider-man out of the equation, you take away 90% of the point of Venom. You’re forgetting about Nightcrawler(Alan Cumming), Quicksilver, Laura, and the cast of Legion & Gifted. Nightcrawler is a breath of fresh air. He's one of those "this series should be like Star Wars" characters I'm always talking about. The care for Quicksilver went as far as his scene. You see his 15 minutes was up in Apocalypse. Laura goes as far as the knowledge that we need a new Wolverine. If they just brought her in and made her the new Wolverine, you think they would care about her? She'd be another victim of people crying about SJW. The cast of Legion and The Gifted? Really? Legion is good, but that has more to do with the story and art direction than the characters. The Gifted can have a revolving door of characters and no one will notice.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 8, 2018 1:24:14 GMT
Actually that is a tension breaker. The point of a tension breaker is to let the audience breath. That's what humor at the end of the scene does. The tension in the airplane keeps building and building until Logan ends the seen with "Wanna pick all that shit up?" That's meant to be a joke line to break tension. To make the audience laugh and let out the breath they were holding. Just because you want these movies to be all serious doesn't mean they are totally serious. NO ITS NOT. because it is not funny. logan said it with sarcasm and anger.Nice try. remember xmen movies are drama with some humour moments. MCU are full on comedies. this is a tension breaker. the big bad taking down for cheap laughs. and you wonder why whedon sort of disowned this movie and said it could have been better.
watch this video to know why
Whoa calm down. You sound upset. I'm thinking you don't know what sarcasm is. The thing I notice is that you don't have a reason to not like the MCU. You keep trying to have others tell why you shouldn't like the MCU. That's sad. Get your own mind, kid. Stop letting others run your life.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 1:27:39 GMT
NO ITS NOT. because it is not funny. logan said it with sarcasm and anger.Nice try. remember xmen movies are drama with some humour moments. MCU are full on comedies. this is a tension breaker. the big bad taking down for cheap laughs. and you wonder why whedon sort of disowned this movie and said it could have been better.
watch this video to know why
Whoa calm down. You sound upset. I'm thinking you don't know what sarcasm is. The thing I notice is that you don't have a reason to not like the MCU. You keep trying to have others tell why you shouldn't like the MCU. That's sad. Get your own mind, kid. Stop letting others run your life. He's upset because his outdated, obsolete way of making CBMs is finally coming to an end. He's a throwback.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 8, 2018 1:29:27 GMT
Whoa calm down. You sound upset. I'm thinking you don't know what sarcasm is. The thing I notice is that you don't have a reason to not like the MCU. You keep trying to have others tell why you shouldn't like the MCU. That's sad. Get your own mind, kid. Stop letting others run your life. He's upset because his outdated, obsolete way of making CBMs is finally coming to an end. He's a throwback. It ended on the 1st movie it happened on.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 1:36:29 GMT
He's upset because his outdated, obsolete way of making CBMs is finally coming to an end. He's a throwback. It ended on the 1st movie it happened on. And yet they keep bringing up X2 and DOFP like they were the Second Coming. The MCU has beaten both films.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 8, 2018 1:39:36 GMT
It ended on the 1st movie it happened on. And yet they keep bringing up X2 and DOFP like they were the Second Coming. The MCU has beaten both films. The 1st Spider-man beat both films and that was a cornball comedy.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 1:44:19 GMT
And yet they keep bringing up X2 and DOFP like they were the Second Coming. The MCU has beaten both films. The 1st Spider-man beat both films and that was a cornball comedy. this spiderman punched people. mcu can't do that for kids. both are pg 13. this spiderman fought with grit. um, remember when mcu fans tried and failed to tell us homecoming was the best spiderman movie.LOL. NOT. DISNEY XMEN, Wolverine won't bring out his claws.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 1:47:55 GMT
And yet they keep bringing up X2 and DOFP like they were the Second Coming. The MCU has beaten both films. The 1st Spider-man beat both films and that was a cornball comedy. LOL..... mcu comedies beat out those movies? where? when? only TDK beat out X2 in content and reception. winter solider , the best mcu movie could not even beat DOFP in april-may 2014 X2 and DOFP have gone on to get praise and respect, MCU movies have gone on to get hate from everyone but kids and mcu fans.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 8, 2018 1:50:57 GMT
I think summers8 is a DC-fan alternate account. No, he's just your typical Toxic X-Fan. The one who hates all other Marvel characters except maybe Spidey. I've dealt with him before, and he predictably lost his mind at someone pointing out flaws in X-Men. He doesn’t seem like a X-fan considering that he had no plan on watching New Mutants.
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