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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 9, 2018 22:18:13 GMT
DOFP was rubbish. The Sentinels looked like crap (both the 1973 and the future ones), and the only reason the X-Men were killed so easily is 1) Singer is piss poor with action scenes, and makes the strongest X-Men weak (like how Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm got their asses kicked by Toad in X1) 2) because the plot has time travel Singer can use gimmicky deaths and bring them back 3) most of the mutants Singer Killed off were not important like Sunspot, Colossus who Singer has directed for 3 movies (X1, X2 and DOFP) and made him a background person instead of a major X-Man or Characters he deliberately mishandled (how the hell did Bishop a mutant WHO POWER IS TO ABSORB ENERGY GOT KILLED BY THREE SENTINELS USING ENERGY BLASTS) And the ending to this turkey was the biggest "happily ever after" ending where ALL of the X-Men came back to life. Kid friendly FOX-Men is a JOKE. Bishop's death goes under your 1st one. He limited Bishop's powers so that he can only release the energy through the gun just for a reason for him having a gun like in the comics. Not understanding that Bishop uses the gun because his powers are actually defensive. The funny part is that they gave Bishop's powers to Shaw in First Class. Shaw doesn't release energy when he gets hit by kinetic energy. He just gets stronger and invulnerable like the Hulk. Bishop should have released that energy and killed all those Sentinels. Or if they wanted him to die they should have had the Sentinels simply stab him.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 9, 2018 22:20:17 GMT
Also, if you notice, that scene has no tension breaker. It is. LOL. So light cinematography and no grit. just a punch. um, no there was no tension breaker. it was saved for th e awful airport scene in civil war. YIKES. remember this. the bright cinematography is blinding my eyes. and the jokes. now this is a real tension breaker. X2 so kills the movieswhere is this scene in the mcu. this is grit and gore for hard pg 13. also look at the cinematography of the scene, the realness of how the scene looks. the gritty atmosphere. civil war is too cartoon looking with the bright colors. Lol.......this is way too funny now. facts dont lie Why do you keep going on about food? What is with your love of superheroes fighting with this?
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 9, 2018 22:23:35 GMT
Magneto spent almost 10 years in solitary confinement and saw his mutant friends butchered, including non-murderers like Banshee and Angel. They both had it bad. Magneto is the most popular villain in the Xmen universe and is critical to the mutant oppression themes - which is what the storyline Days of Future Past is based on. To not have him play any significant role would like Thanos not being the star in Infinity Gaunlet. Internal conflict is fine when its pulled of correctly, but Civil War is contrived. X3, First Class, Logan and Deadpool all have internal conflict themes that make sense. the problem with civil war is that it is too derivate in conflict. civil war is more interested in the cgi and the action with is what tony and steve mostly did. how many times have we even seen xavier and magneto punch eachother? nope. they fight mostly with their intellect and philosophy. please remember also batman begins, Bruce and Ral had a clear philosophy of justice and revenge that was deep and well structured. MCU movies just dont there. they are too dumb. gosh, makes me almost wish now that fox or wb made black panther with ryan directing for Fox or anyone else, not only will there be a real cultural impact but also a real legitimate great movie that wont be questioned or been seen as SJW. Panther would have had the best of both worlds. I notice that when someone calls you out on something, you move on to something else. None throws a punch in the MCU. You get shown punches, but they aren't gritty and gory enough for you.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 10, 2018 13:37:52 GMT
The funny thing is that MCU films are actually more diverse in tone than the X-men movies.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 10, 2018 13:42:40 GMT
The funny thing is that MCU films are actually more diverse in tone than the X-men movies. No, shit. It’s a shared universe with multiple franchises while the X-Men is just one franchise. And he’s talking about superhero films in general if you read more closely.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 10, 2018 13:49:01 GMT
The funny thing is that MCU films are actually more diverse in tone than the X-men movies. No, shit. It’s a shared universe with multiple franchises while the X-Men is just one franchise. The X-Men have enough subgroups and characters they could've branched out years ago if they'd cared or had vision. Hell, we could've gotten a Starjammers movie out years ago to lead the pack instead of the MCU coming out with GOTG.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 10, 2018 13:49:59 GMT
The funny thing is that MCU films are actually more diverse in tone than the X-men movies. No, shit. It’s a shared universe with multiple franchises while the X-Men is just one franchise. And he’s talking about superhero films in general if you read more closely. "Something that's getting old with those universes and all the Marvel movies" - though he was taking about superhero movies in general, he also specifically mentioned Marvel... which is weird because the MCU have more diverse movies than DCEU or the Xmen movies.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 11, 2018 7:56:47 GMT
No, shit. It’s a shared universe with multiple franchises while the X-Men is just one franchise. The X-Men have enough subgroups and characters they could've branched out years ago if they'd cared or had vision. Hell, we could've gotten a Starjammers movie out years ago to lead the pack instead of the MCU coming out with GOTG. You’re saying should have dropped films like Star Wars and Avatar to focus solely on producing X-Men films.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 11:03:26 GMT
The X-Men have enough subgroups and characters they could've branched out years ago if they'd cared or had vision. Hell, we could've gotten a Starjammers movie out years ago to lead the pack instead of the MCU coming out with GOTG. You’re saying should have dropped films like Star Wars and Avatar to focus solely on producing X-Men films. They haven't made any Avatar movies since 2009 and weren't doing anything with Star Wars anyways since 2005. Why NOT capitalize on what they could do with the X-Men?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 11, 2018 23:41:08 GMT
You’re saying should have dropped films like Star Wars and Avatar to focus solely on producing X-Men films. They haven't made any Avatar movies since 2009 and weren't doing anything with Star Wars anyways since 2005. Why NOT capitalize on what they could do with the X-Men? It’s Fox studios, not X-Men. Only listed Star War and Avatar as two of hundreds of examples.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 12, 2018 12:14:12 GMT
They haven't made any Avatar movies since 2009 and weren't doing anything with Star Wars anyways since 2005. Why NOT capitalize on what they could do with the X-Men? It’s Fox studios, not X-Men. Only listed Star War and Avatar as two of hundreds of examples. So FOX didn't have any idea that they could easily have used any of the other properties associated with the X-Men to do other movies and hardly every capitalized on the various franchises they already made movie over. No one they sold.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 12, 2018 14:17:23 GMT
The funny thing is that MCU films are actually more diverse in tone than the X-men movies. if you believe it it's not a lie, Skaathar. The facts speak a different language however.
The dark, mature tone of Logan, next to the juvenile humor of Deadpool, next to tonally complex Class 1, to the serious, allegorical X1. The R-ratings say it all.
MCU despite being several franchises never managed to come close to that variety and depth. Funny indeed. Its kiddy formula, and that is fíne for the kids.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 12, 2018 15:38:13 GMT
The predictable, banal tone of Logan Fixed. Fixed. Fixed. Fixed. Yeah, they have nothing else so they'll throw blood, gore and cursing to get peoples' attentiom. Fixed.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 12, 2018 20:30:33 GMT
The funny thing is that MCU films are actually more diverse in tone than the X-men movies. if you believe it it's not a lie, Skaathar. The facts speak a different language however.
The dark, mature tone of Logan, next to the juvenile humor of Deadpool, next to tonally complex Class 1, to the serious, allegorical X1. The R-ratings say it all.
MCU despite being several franchises never managed to come close to that variety and depth. Funny indeed. Its kiddy formula, and that is fíne for the kids.
So basically what you'r saying is that Logan and Deadpool are different in tone, whereas all the rest of the X-men movies are the same. Yes, I agree. That makes 80% of their movies the same tone, which is why the MCU movies are way more varied in tone than the X-men movies.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 13, 2018 2:52:31 GMT
if you believe it it's not a lie, Skaathar. The facts speak a different language however.
The dark, mature tone of Logan, next to the juvenile humor of Deadpool, next to tonally complex Class 1, to the serious, allegorical X1. The R-ratings say it all.
MCU despite being several franchises never managed to come close to that variety and depth. Funny indeed. Its kiddy formula, and that is fíne for the kids.
So basically what you'r saying is that Logan and Deadpool are different in tone, whereas all the rest of the X-men movies are the same. Yes, I agree. That makes 80% of their movies the same tone, which is why the MCU movies are way more varied in tone than the X-men movies. X3 was a massive tone shift from the previous two films.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 13, 2018 3:07:17 GMT
So basically what you'r saying is that Logan and Deadpool are different in tone, whereas all the rest of the X-men movies are the same. Yes, I agree. That makes 80% of their movies the same tone, which is why the MCU movies are way more varied in tone than the X-men movies. X3 was a massive tone shift from the previous two films. No it wasn't. I was a massive drop in quality but tonally wasn't that much different.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 13, 2018 3:58:17 GMT
X3 was a massive tone shift from the previous two films. No it wasn't. I was a massive drop in quality but tonally wasn't that much different. No, rewatch the X-Men trilogy. X3 has a goofy and very mean-spirited tone to it.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 13, 2018 4:30:49 GMT
No it wasn't. I was a massive drop in quality but tonally wasn't that much different. No, rewatch the X-Men trilogy. X3 has a goofy and very mean-spirited tone to it. I've rewatched them recently. It had a different feel to it due to the difference in director but the tone was still more or less the same. It's like the difference between THOR and THOR TDW. There were definitely some differences between them mostly due to the different directors but in general the tone was still similar. Compare that to Thor Ragnarok, now that's a completely different tone.
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