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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 8, 2018 1:53:00 GMT
The 1st Spider-man beat both films and that was a cornball comedy. this spiderman punched people. mcu can't do that for kids. both are pg 13. this spiderman fought with grit. um, remember when mcu fans tried and fail to tell us homecoming was the best spiderman movie.LOL. NOT. DISNEY XMEN, Wolverine won't bring out his claws. Also, if you notice, that scene has no tension breaker. It is.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 2:03:06 GMT
The 1st Spider-man beat both films and that was a cornball comedy. this spiderman punched people. mcu can't do that for kids. both are pg 13. The MCU gave us a guy who smashed peoples' heads open so he could bathe in their blood. Nah, he was a wimp. He landed a solid blow on Doc Ock and it didn't knock him out. Not the best, but one of the better ones. He will, he'll just fight people who the claws won't work on so he'll have to use his brain.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 2:03:37 GMT
No, he's just your typical Toxic X-Fan. The one who hates all other Marvel characters except maybe Spidey. I've dealt with him before, and he predictably lost his mind at someone pointing out flaws in X-Men. He doesn’t seem like a X-fan considering that he had no plan on watching New Mutants. He thinks Disney has "corrupted" the film somehow. That's his reasoning.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 2:06:25 GMT
this spiderman punched people. mcu can't do that for kids. both are pg 13. this spiderman fought with grit. um, remember when mcu fans tried and fail to tell us homecoming was the best spiderman movie.LOL. NOT. DISNEY XMEN, Wolverine won't bring out his claws. Also, if you notice, that scene has no tension breaker. It is. LOL. So light cinematography and no grit. just a punch. um, no there was no tension breaker. it was saved for th e awful airport scene in civil war. YIKES. remember this. the bright cinematography is blinding my eyes. and the jokes. now this is a real tension breaker. X2 so kills the movieswhere is this scene in the mcu. this is grit and gore for hard pg 13. also look at the cinematography of the scene, the realness of how the scene looks. the gritty atmosphere. civil war is too cartoon looking with the bright colors. Lol.......this is way too funny now. facts dont lie
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 2:15:25 GMT
Also, if you notice, that scene has no tension breaker. It is. LOL. So light cinematography and no grit. just a punch. Better than what we got from Raimi. Yeah, there was. What, you think they should fight in the middle of the night like idiots? People who didn't want to fight are making jokes. Reasonable. Outdated nonsense. Nah, it's a poorly done scene of Logan screeching like a little girl. Outdated. Boring. Cheaply done. So it's more true to the source, it's unpretentious and unashamed. Yeah, X2 is outdated.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 2:55:17 GMT
DOFP- more grit and gore and no tension breakers and excellent looking grounded film tone. not that superficial cartoon brightness with mcu movies that takes the realism or feel that this people are in pain. enjoy. from DOFP. Put blood in these fight scene and you have a R Rated movie.lol...DOFP came put 3-4 weeks after winter solider (the best mcu movie) and killed the movie. do you mcu fans grasp that? and dofp is what? the 2nd or 3rd best xmen movie after logan and X2. oh and um. spiderman cant punch people. not zemo or steve. spiderman. for childish reasons.
Drop mic.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 2:58:05 GMT
DOFP- more grit and gore and no tension breakers and excellent looking grounded film tone. No, it's rather predictable and already outdated. It just got easy treatment because the old cast came back for their silly fairytale ending. "Grounded" is always a bad thing in CBMs. And really, with all the powers the X-Men have they should've been able to beat the Sentinels. The story was silly. Nope, they're equally matched. Then Guardians came out and slaughtered DOFP once people realized they only liked DOFP because the old cast came back. Oh, and Spidey was trying to fight smartly. Something Raimi didn't think of.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 8, 2018 11:18:46 GMT
No, Charles was the worse one off. Magneto did have it easy, and he expects Charles to be upset the traitors and murderers got what they deserved. Magneto spent almost 10 years in solitary confinement and saw his mutant friends butchered, including non-murderers like Banshee and Angel. They both had it bad. Magneto is the most popular villain in the Xmen universe and is critical to the mutant oppression themes - which is what the storyline Days of Future Past is based on. To not have him play any significant role would like Thanos not being the star in Infinity Gaunlet. Internal conflict is fine when its pulled of correctly, but Civil War is contrived. X3, First Class, Logan and Deadpool all have internal conflict themes that make sense.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 11:51:44 GMT
No, Charles was the worse one off. Magneto did have it easy, and he expects Charles to be upset the traitors and murderers got what they deserved. Magneto spent almost 10 years in solitary confinement and saw his mutant friends butchered, including non-murderers like Banshee and Angel. They both had it bad. Magneto is the most popular villain in the Xmen universe and is critical to the mutant oppression themes - which is what the storyline Days of Future Past is based on. To not have him play any significant role would like Thanos not being the star in Infinity Gaunlet. Internal conflict is fine when its pulled of correctly, but Civil War is contrived. X3, First Class, Logan and Deadpool all have internal conflict themes that make sense. the problem with civil war is that it is too derivate in conflict. civil war is more interested in the cgi and the action with is what tony and steve mostly did. how many times have we even seen xavier and magneto punch eachother? nope. they fight mostly with their intellect and philosophy. please remember also batman begins, Bruce and Ral had a clear philosophy of justice and revenge that was deep and well structured. MCU movies just dont there. they are too dumb. gosh, makes me almost wish now that fox or wb made black panther with ryan directing for Fox or anyone else, not only will there be a real cultural impact but also a real legitimate great movie that wont be questioned or been seen as SJW. Panther would have had the best of both worlds.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 12:40:10 GMT
No, Charles was the worse one off. Magneto did have it easy, and he expects Charles to be upset the traitors and murderers got what they deserved. Magneto spent almost 10 years in solitary confinement and saw his mutant friends butchered, including non-murderers like Banshee and Angel. They both had it bad. Charles was crippled, was abandoned by his family so they could go off and join murderous terrorists, and then the leader of said terrorists (who decided he'd flow the legacy of the Nazi who killed HIS family, showing he had skewed morals in the first place) has the gall to treat Charles like he hadn't suffered anything. Themes that have exhausted themselves within these movies because the writers are too lazy to develop the premise. Magneto DIDN'T play a major role in the original comic story! Because you're too close minded to ever consider Tony Stark developing to the point where he'd be willing to think the Accords are a good idea. You don't believe in character development. Are done poorly and shallow.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 12:44:26 GMT
the problem with civil war is that it is too derivate in conflict. Nah, that's X-Men. The MCU doesn't need to exploit the Holocaust for its' conflicts, and it bothers braking the status quo and developing while X-Men is too cowardly for any of that. They're only bothering now because their Universe will end soon. Actually, the spent more time talking. And they don't feel the need to wrap things up in a neat little package, the way X-Men always does (the lazy way). Because the action in the FoX-Men world sucks. They aren't willing to go all out. Xavier is a fool for always letting Magneto go. He should've killed him years ago. Their silly, shallow philosophies. Charles is an incompetent who thinks the best thing to do is create a Cult that indoctrinates kids and Magneto is shallow enough he gives up on his ideals to go be a Steel Worker. Shallow philosophies too. Just like Joker in TDK. No, they just refuse to make the villains the real stars of the film. And they refuse to push any philosophies as absolute and infallible, they aren't shallow enough to think that. They'd make Killmonger the real star, T'Challa doing nothing but responding to Killmonger instead of being an active character and end it with T'Challa leaving Wakanda exactly the way it started off as, instead of MCU T'Challa deciding to change things by opening up to the world. Fox's Black Panther would have no guts. MCU did that. Better than X-Men. It would've been worse if it'd been FOX, seeing how banal they make their messages.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 8, 2018 13:44:06 GMT
Charles was crippled, was abandoned by his family so they could go off and join murderous terrorists, and then the leader of said terrorists (who decided he'd flow the legacy of the Nazi who killed HIS family, showing he had skewed morals in the first place) has the gall to treat Charles like he hadn't suffered anything. They were murderous terrorists under Shaws leadership in the Hellfire club. He wanted to start a nuclear war to kill humans. Magneto was a revolutionary, and he tried saving Mutants like John F Kennedy instead but got framed. They arent prominent now with Logan and Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix but DOFP was the relevant because of the story it came from. I know, but the films adaptation improved it by having Magneto play a big part. Civil War is contrived. I dont believe the scenario player out in the film would happen im real life given the characters beliefs and histories. Their not shallow, they are organic.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 13:47:34 GMT
Charles was crippled, was abandoned by his family so they could go off and join murderous terrorists, and then the leader of said terrorists (who decided he'd flow the legacy of the Nazi who killed HIS family, showing he had skewed morals in the first place) has the gall to treat Charles like he hadn't suffered anything. They were murderous terrorists under Shaws leadership in the Hellfire club. And Magneto said he was fine with everything Shaw wanted to do. He was probably lying about JFK as well. They very much are. Improved? It was total laziness. It's a natural and organically met scenario that made sense given events. Unlike X-Men Apocalypse. Because you can't believe in character development. There's nothing organic about Magneto becoming a steel worker and Mystique being a wimp who refuses to capitalize on how she did something GOOD for mutants for 10 years. And Xavier sitting back and doing nothing as well.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 8, 2018 13:48:29 GMT
please remember also batman begins, Bruce and Ral had a clear philosophy of justice and revenge that was deep and well structured. MCU movies just dont there. they are too dumb. gosh, makes me almost wish now that fox or wb made black panther with ryan directing for Fox or anyone else, not only will there be a real cultural impact but also a real legitimate great movie that wont be questioned or been seen as SJW. Panther would have had the best of both worlds. True, I think its obvious Disney have a quota to prevent too much screentime in any one scene becoming too dialogue heavy, mainly because they dont want their audiences getting bored which is why they rush to the action. They have no room for nuanced storytelling.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 13:49:58 GMT
please remember also batman begins, Bruce and Ral had a clear philosophy of justice and revenge that was deep and well structured. MCU movies just dont there. they are too dumb. gosh, makes me almost wish now that fox or wb made black panther with ryan directing for Fox or anyone else, not only will there be a real cultural impact but also a real legitimate great movie that wont be questioned or been seen as SJW. Panther would have had the best of both worlds. True, I think its obvious Disney have a quota to prevent too much screentime in any one scene becoming too dialogue heavy, mainly because they dont want their audiences getting bored which is why they rush to the action. They have no room for nuanced storytelling. If that were true, audiences wouldn't have left Civil War wondering who was the good guy in the end. They pulled off something X-Men failed at. The MCU doesn't spoonfeed.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 8, 2018 14:15:02 GMT
please remember also batman begins, Bruce and Ral had a clear philosophy of justice and revenge that was deep and well structured. MCU movies just dont there. they are too dumb. gosh, makes me almost wish now that fox or wb made black panther with ryan directing for Fox or anyone else, not only will there be a real cultural impact but also a real legitimate great movie that wont be questioned or been seen as SJW. Panther would have had the best of both worlds. True, I think its obvious Disney have a quota to prevent too much screentime in any one scene becoming too dialogue heavy, mainly because they dont want their audiences getting bored which is why they rush to the action. They have no room for nuanced storytelling. True. this was confirmed when mickey rouke said, they removed most of his acting and dialogue in iron man 2. www.cinemablend.com/new/Mickey-Rourke-Hatred-Marvel-Still-Burning-66785.htmlThis was also the said case of Ed Norton wanting to take control of the entire Hulk movie because he was a character study actor first/ www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Edward-Norton-Doesn-t-Play-Hulk-Anymore-According-Edward-Norton-67854.html. See, we don't make things up. we say it as it is. formersahmd and thatguy just make me laugh.I almost feel sorry for them. they all rant and attack the xmen movies desperately and uselessly but what they don't have is the truth and this is more powerful than the corrupt and damaging to cinema terrible mcu disney movies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 8, 2018 14:29:29 GMT
True, I think its obvious Disney have a quota to prevent too much screentime in any one scene becoming too dialogue heavy, mainly because they dont want their audiences getting bored which is why they rush to the action. They have no room for nuanced storytelling. True. False, they just don't spoonfeed. Rourke is a Diva who wanted the movie to be all about him, not Iron Man. Is also a Diva. You make it sound like they had valid problems, instead of them just being Divas. For legitimate reasons. Sure we do. You just run away like a coward and put us on block because you can't accept it. That's why you ran away from the Trekbbs forum, because I was there and countered everything you said so you ran way crying.
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Post by kleinreturns on Apr 8, 2018 22:28:36 GMT
DOFP was rubbish. The Sentinels looked like crap (both the 1973 and the future ones), and the only reason the X-Men were killed so easily is 1) Singer is piss poor with action scenes, and makes the strongest X-Men weak (like how Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm got their asses kicked by Toad in X1) 2) because the plot has time travel Singer can use gimmicky deaths and bring them back 3) most of the mutants Singer Killed off were not important like Sunspot, Colossus who Singer has directed for 3 movies (X1, X2 and DOFP) and made him a background person instead of a major X-Man or Characters he deliberately mishandled (how the hell did Bishop a mutant WHO POWER IS TO ABSORB ENERGY GOT KILLED BY THREE SENTINELS USING ENERGY BLASTS)
And the ending to this turkey was the biggest "happily ever after" ending where ALL of the X-Men came back to life. Kid friendly FOX-Men is a JOKE.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 9, 2018 5:41:47 GMT
DOFP was rubbish. The Sentinels looked like crap (both the 1973 and the future ones), and the only reason the X-Men were killed so easily is 1) Singer is piss poor with action scenes, and makes the strongest X-Men weak (like how Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm got their asses kicked by Toad in X1) 2) because the plot has time travel Singer can use gimmicky deaths and bring them back 3) most of the mutants Singer Killed off were not important like Sunspot, Colossus who Singer has directed for 3 movies (X1, X2 and DOFP) and made him a background person instead of a major X-Man or Characters he deliberately mishandled (how the hell did Bishop a mutant WHO POWER IS TO ABSORB ENERGY GOT KILLED BY THREE SENTINELS USING ENERGY BLASTS) And the ending to this turkey was the biggest "happily ever after" ending where ALL of the X-Men came back to life. Kid friendly FOX-Men is a JOKE. Meh, just continue with the basless reflex attack action. it is not dofp fault mcu movies are jokey and cartoon looking because of disney.they comeback thanks to time travel laws. wait was this the same singer that did the quicksilver scene that went on to be studied in film school? and I am not even a big cgi person. LOL. see why you are not xmen fans? did you not know the original plot was time travel from the 1981 comics. only difference is the time travel in the comics caused an alternate reality, also all the mutants died. MCU fans you keep grasping for straws, DOFP killed your best movie in 2014. As for Bishop he can absorb powers but once he is overwhelmed it causes damaged to him. LOL Did you read the comics or messiah war? mcu fans dont know much about the comics, this is the reason they think CGI disney comedies are good. When it comes to DOFP, poor winter solider huh?
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 9, 2018 11:33:36 GMT
Meh, just continue with the basless reflex attack action. it is not dofp fault mcu movies are jokey and cartoon looking No, they're just more true to the source material. Cop-Out. No. DOIFP the comic isn't that good a story. No, DOFP was trashed by Guardians. Was written poorly. In the comics he's shown far greater power than the movies. We do, moreso than any FoX-Men fan. Nah, poor DOFP. It got trashed by the GOTG.
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