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Post by harpospoke on Apr 11, 2018 19:33:42 GMT
Inserting a sub plot into the movie that does nothing for the plot? ...That appears to be there just to wedge in more Liberal Porn? "Rich people are evil" "Animal rights" Yeah...that sort of nonsense will get noticed and there is nothing wrong with being pissed off about that. I don't want to get into an argument over the other stuff, but the Canto Bright thing wasn't just about that. If they hadn't brought DJ back with them, he'd never have ratted them out to the First Order and told the First Order about the real Resistance Plan. The entire final showdown on the planet was the result of them bringing DJ to the First Order. So 20 minutes of irrelevant fluff to set up the FO finding out about a plan. That's terrible writing.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 19:35:55 GMT
I don't want to get into an argument over the other stuff, but the Canto Bright thing wasn't just about that. If they hadn't brought DJ back with them, he'd never have ratted them out to the First Order and told the First Order about the real Resistance Plan. The entire final showdown on the planet was the result of them bringing DJ to the First Order. So 20 minutes of irrelevant fluff to set up the FO finding out about a plan. That's terrible writing. 20 minutes of fluff to set up the entire final act, though I think what really pissed viewers off what how it felt like unnecessary political statements.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 11, 2018 19:38:59 GMT
[/p] - infiltration of special justice organization like Jedi/Shield by teh bad guys Sith/Hydra, and then launch a sudden Order 66 purge destroying it, and forcing the heros into underground too fight it. Which Cap comic was that again? [/quote] Captain America No More, 1987.lol. each time you are naming a differnet comic. Bet this one will turn out another dull red herring dud of yours. Well this obscure turkey of a comic seems not to include any of the discussed plot points, or at least they forgot to mention it on any plot summary and synopsis I read. Strange as this should be a very very prominent plot point as prominent as was in the movies. Maybe you just misremembered again? Here as a refreshment the plot from Wiki:
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 11, 2018 19:57:54 GMT
I ll just have to wait for deadpool and dark Phoniex
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 19:59:39 GMT
Well this obscure turkey of a comic Obscure enough DC ripped it off at least 4 times. It's all there if you read it. Not as banal as how the Prequels did it but it's all there. Ancient Enemy infiltrating Government, killing off officials while running secret schemes, turns powerful agent into his pawn after he nuts from his parents dying, etc. Man, Wars owes Marvel so bad...
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 11, 2018 20:16:35 GMT
Well this obscure turkey of a comic Obscure enough DC ripped it off at least 4 times. It's all there if you read it. Not as banal as how the Prequels did it but it's all there. Ancient Enemy infiltrating Government, killing off officials while running secret schemes, turns powerful agent into his pawn after he nuts from his parents dying, etc. Man, Wars owes Marvel so bad... lol at the fanboy's new clothes. Strange they forgot to mention it in all the plot descriptions. Especially the turning to the dark side stuff sounds so much like Star wars again, surely Star Wars 77-83 copied that from this literary masterpiece from 87. Messed up timelines like in Spiderboy Homecoming, maybe a time conspiracy concocted by Dr Strange who was turned to the dark side by DC... Write a book, might be a hoot and holler on the bestseller lists.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 20:19:28 GMT
Strange they forgot to mention it in all the plot descriptions. You need to be spoonfed? The Captain doesn't need to say "Oh and Star Wars ripped these ideas off", Marvel isn't that petty. No, that idea just predated Star Wars. Going bad, only here it's done without any artsy-fartsy stuff about magical energy fields. It's just done with real characterization. The stuff the Prequels missed out on. Bottom line is, the FoX-Men's time is over and done. They'll be pulled screaming into the future whether they like it or not. And the DCEU is finally learning it must adapt to the new paradigm as well.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 11, 2018 20:27:29 GMT
Strange they forgot to mention it in all the plot descriptions. You need to be spoonfed? The Captain doesn't need to say "Oh and Star Wars ripped these ideas off", Marvel isn't that petty. No, that idea just predated Star Wars. Going bad, only here it's done without any artsy-fartsy stuff about magical energy fields. It's just done with real characterization. The stuff the Prequels missed out on. ^comedy gold. Play it again, sam.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 20:28:56 GMT
You need to be spoonfed? The Captain doesn't need to say "Oh and Star Wars ripped these ideas off", Marvel isn't that petty. No, that idea just predated Star Wars. Going bad, only here it's done without any artsy-fartsy stuff about magical energy fields. It's just done with real characterization. The stuff the Prequels missed out on. ^comedy gold. Yeah, you thinking Marvel owes SW when it's always been the other way around. Almost as silly as the "Marvel owes DC" thing...
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 11, 2018 20:41:09 GMT
I ll just have to wait for deadpool and dark Phoniex Right because Deadpool is so "mature"
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 11, 2018 21:54:51 GMT
I ll just have to wait for deadpool and dark Phoniex Right because Deadpool is so "mature" The difference is comedy is part of dp character
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 22:19:19 GMT
Right because Deadpool is so "mature" The difference is comedy is part of dp character Nice double standard.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 11, 2018 22:25:29 GMT
Right because Deadpool is so "mature" The difference is comedy is part of dp character Comedy is also part of Spider-Man's character, as well as Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, and Iron Man and quite a few others in the Marvel universe.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 22:27:03 GMT
The difference is comedy is part of dp character Comedy is also part of Spider-Man's character, as well as Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, and Iron Man. It's also a part of Frank Castles'. He's forgetting that time him and Spidey teamed up to stop Charles Bronson and his secret cocaine conspiracy.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 11, 2018 22:28:47 GMT
Comedy is also part of Spider-Man's character, as well as Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, and Iron Man. It's also a part of Frank Castles'. He's forgetting that time him and Spidey teamed up to stop Charles Bronson and his secret cocaine conspiracy. That's right. He also went into Riverdale once too and met up with Archie.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 11, 2018 23:09:38 GMT
The difference is comedy is part of dp character Comedy is also part of Spider-Man's character, as well as Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, and Iron Man and quite a few others in the Marvel universe. No Spidey is serious sometimes he ll make smart remarks to cofuse the enemy but no comedy is part of his character like dp
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 11, 2018 23:22:46 GMT
Comedy is also part of Spider-Man's character, as well as Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, and Iron Man and quite a few others in the Marvel universe. No Spidey is serious sometimes he ll make smart remarks to cofuse the enemy but no comedy is part of his character like dp You obviously don't know the character very well. I also don't think you understand the difference between humor and comedy. None of the MCU characters are comedies or comedians, but a lot of them are humorous.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 11, 2018 23:36:01 GMT
Comedy is also part of Spider-Man's character, as well as Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, and Iron Man and quite a few others in the Marvel universe. No Spidey is serious sometimes he ll make smart remarks to cofuse the enemy but no comedy is part of his character like dp Obviously you know very little about Spider-Man( Guess your collection consists of one or two books at most), humor is a BIG part of his character, most of his stories are not intended to be super serious or uber-violent.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2018 23:37:46 GMT
Comedy is also part of Spider-Man's character, as well as Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, and Iron Man and quite a few others in the Marvel universe. No Spidey is serious sometimes he ll make smart remarks to cofuse the enemy but no comedy is part of his character like dp It very much is. And you haven't said anything about Frank Castles' humorous moments.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 11, 2018 23:44:01 GMT
No Spidey is serious sometimes he ll make smart remarks to cofuse the enemy but no comedy is part of his character like dp It very much is. And you haven't said anything about Frank Castles' humorous moments. Humor isn't part of Castle character" if they tone him down for one comic does not mean its part of his character Yeah Castle is a comedian alright
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