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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 13:02:14 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion.
I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy.
Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are.
I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care
So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt?
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Post by puvo on Mar 15, 2017 13:06:40 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion. I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy. Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are. I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt? What would be your best guess?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 15, 2017 13:35:59 GMT
The likely answer is they feel that they are being forced to become believers because other people believe which, while retarded, is a consistent issue brought up by theophobiacs.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Mar 15, 2017 13:40:56 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion. I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy. Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are. I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt? Well, first, most atheists belong to a religion. Second, pretty much all atheists live around religious people. Third, there are religious people who look to impose their views on others. Fourth, there are places with a history of demonizing atheists. As well as places with religious dictatorships. Fifth, 'atheism' and 'atheists' don't take a capital because they aren't proper nouns, not being religions. Hard to give your take much weight when you illustrate you don't really understand what you're talking about. Finally, perhaps you're wrongly projecting anger out of your limited view. Consider that angry people are the ones most likely to be making noise and will be heard disproportionately. Think of the fact of most Muslims never having killed anyone for their faith or most Americans not being arrogant jerks, despite the noise that results from the few that are the bad ones.
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Post by thefleetsin on Mar 15, 2017 14:36:54 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion. I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy. Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are. I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt? who brought it to your attention? are you an avid reader? well, if so, keep on reading. and reading and reading. then perhaps one day if you are fortunate, b i n g o: no more faith in magic spirit father entities and you can join the real world.
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Post by general313 on Mar 15, 2017 14:45:25 GMT
I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care If state and federal legislative bodies started passing laws about unicorns (perhaps relating to bathrooms or marriage), you would definitely think about them more often.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 15, 2017 14:45:33 GMT
I can't speak for all atheists but I find the mechanics and logic behind religious belief and credulity fascinating. I wouldn't say that that amounts to an 'obsession' though, just a long-standing, abiding interest. In so far as 'getting mad' at those who hold religious beliefs then, again, this just isn't the case at all. In many cases the opposite is true: faithists can quickly get defensive and then when their beliefs are persistently questioned or faced with trenchant scrutiny (as one might expect to be the case on a open-platform religious message board, after all) strike out with insults. But then they are also quick to claim 'insult' and 'ridicule' - incidentally thereby just emphasising how effective humour is in deflating the hyperbolic claims and flummery of superstitions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 15:04:31 GMT
I don't know of any atheists who obsess over religion. There may be some I suppose, just because people are such a varied lot, but it would be a tiny minority.
Of course a lot of atheists are interested, even fascinated with religion, for various reasons. I find it fascinating myself, because for the life of me I cannot work out how people can make their brains buy into it. It's like living in a world where 90% of people think genuinely believe that babies are brought by the stork, or electricity is produced by little fairies carrying little buckets of it down the wires. I am on a mission to understand how people can believe.
I also seek to subject my own positions to cross examination, but that's become a distant second over the years because there's few who want to try and none who are able to give it a good go.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Mar 15, 2017 15:05:32 GMT
Well, first, most atheists belong to a religion. I'm curious what you mean by your first statement.
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Post by fatpaul on Mar 15, 2017 15:06:16 GMT
It has been brought to my attention.... Yeah, I can imagine this scene. Your man-friday hurrying with the latest memo: Sir, sir! The atheists are getting uppity again!Now this is where I give theists top respect, they're not afraid to use their spidey senses.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 15, 2017 15:07:53 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion. I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy. Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are. I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt? Is belief in unicorns dominating our culture? Are we trying to pass laws and affect education over it?
That's why we challenge religion.
Just imagine for a moment the absolute sillyness of a world full of people who actually believed in leprechauns and fairies and unicorns, and the holy books were written with legendary tales like Jack and the Beanstalk which everybody accepted as real history. You are promoting a world full of people who accept fairy tales as reality.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 15, 2017 15:51:05 GMT
I don't know of any atheists who obsess over religion. There may be some I suppose, just because people are such a varied lot, but it would be a tiny minority. Of course a lot of atheists are interested, even fascinated with religion, for various reasons. I find it fascinating myself, because for the life of me I cannot work out how people can make their brains buy into it. It's like living in a world where 90% of people think genuinely believe that babies are brought by the stork, or electricity is produced by little fairies carrying little buckets of it down the wires. I am on a mission to understand how people can believe. I also seek to subject my own positions to cross examination, but that's become a distant second over the years because there's few who want to try and none who are able to give it a good go. Well, I might could help with your mission to understand how people can believe; I was brain-washed into it from the time I was born. I started questioning in my teens because logic and reason kicked in, thanks to public education, but it took years for me to finally define myself as an atheist. Sometimes I have small relapses, wondering if there is a god and he is just cruel, or indifferent. That brain-washing is really hard to overcome, even when you accept the scientific method of thought, know that you are alive because of advances in medical science, not because of prayer, and see the logical things that natural law produces.
Another reason is that society bombards us with religious thought; TV shows depict scenarios of someone praying for a patient, and the patient, above all odds, has a full recovery. I live in a small town in a strongly religious part of the country, and I can go to the grocery store and overhear people talking big and loud about the new minister down at the church and how full of the spirit he is. I am not included in the fabric of my community because I don't go to church or have a child in public school.
Religion makes it very hard to question anything; questioning is very negatively responded to, so most people just stay in whatever religion they were brought up in. My mother is, at 94, still a card-carrying Southern Baptist, and it makes having a relationship with her very difficult. I change the subject a lot in conversations. So I am still pressured by family to be a believer.
And some want to believe; they miss their husband or father who has passed away so much that they want to 'know' that they will be reunited after death.
And some folks are just lazy, and don't want to take responsibilities for their own actions, so they can say, "I don't know why god won't help me find a job/heal my illness/send the right person to marry." They like that whole 'we don't understand god's plan sometimes' out when it's really just blame-shifting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 16:03:28 GMT
Thanks for sharing your story, I appreciate it.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 15, 2017 16:11:45 GMT
Thanks for sharing your story, I appreciate it. You're welcome; anytime I can help, just ask.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Mar 15, 2017 16:13:58 GMT
Honestly, I think a lot of it is simply people being bored and wanting/liking to argue for entertainment.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 15, 2017 16:19:03 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion. I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy. Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are. I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt? Well, first, most atheists belong to a religion. Second, pretty much all atheists live around religious people. Third, there are religious people who look to impose their views on others. Fourth, there are places with a history of demonizing atheists. As well as places with religious dictatorships. Fifth, 'atheism' and 'atheists' don't take a capital because they aren't proper nouns, not being religions. Hard to give your take much weight when you illustrate you don't really understand what you're talking about. Finally, perhaps you're wrongly projecting anger out of your limited view. Consider that angry people are the ones most likely to be making noise and will be heard disproportionately. Think of the fact of most Muslims never having killed anyone for their faith or most Americans not being arrogant jerks, despite the noise that results from the few that are the bad ones. QFT.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 15, 2017 16:19:55 GMT
Well, first, most atheists belong to a religion. I'm curious what you mean by your first statement. There are many religions that are not based around believing in God. Buddhism is one example where belief in God is optional and not terribly relevant.
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Post by vernuf on Mar 15, 2017 17:07:33 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion. I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy. Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are. I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt? Pretty sure you're lying your ass off.
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Post by blade on Mar 15, 2017 17:11:25 GMT
It has been brought to my attention just how much 'some' Atheists obsess over religion. I don't know how many times I've seen, read, or heard Atheists get really mad about people believing in God, Allah, Jehovah, or even reincarnation or spiritual philosophy. Why? If you don't believe it, why insist on making people who do feel inadequate? Why try and undermine someone who does? There are some Atheists who obsess over telling people religion isn't real and how fake their beliefs are. I don't believe in unicorns, do you know how many times I've thought of Unicorns in my life? Probably a handful of times, and it's usually someone who brings them up. If Randy Rando told me "I believe Unicorns exist in the South Pacific, they have magic rainbow powers that revive Bigfoot Yeti's in the Rocky Mnts if they truly believe in their magic." I wouldn't get mad at them. I don't care So why get mad if a Christian or Jewish person has beliefs that you think are fairytales? Is it perhaps that you do feel they may be right and have merit, but the anger comes from a place of self doubt? Pretty sure you're lying your ass off.
I'm still waiting on that list bubba.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 17:28:03 GMT
Because they need it just like the rest of us but won't accept it, so their need goes unfulfilled.
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