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Post by deembastille on Jun 18, 2018 21:13:09 GMT
want to add: shouldn't the innocent public not be afraid of the GOOD superheroes? [Christian bale's portrayal of batman was too scary]
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Post by deembastille on Jun 18, 2018 21:16:02 GMT
If you're not going to reprimand DC-Fan , why should anyone else be reprimanded? You need to grow up. Dc fan made a thread to ask a question about the Avengers and there's nothing wrong with that so why should he be reprimanded? As per usual a defensive fanboy tried to drag it into dc complaining territory. Then surprise surprise you pop up playing the rebellious hero to complain about how things are done. admitting that i am just swinging by and responded to a topic i was interested in without knowing what is going on with you all on a personal level... but i find it interesting that you have 25 posts to your name and surprise surprise you are calling someone on their crap. that's a little bold for a newbie.
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Post by damngumby on Jun 18, 2018 21:16:38 GMT
Did Avengers save anyone in Civil War? Yes. Thousands maybe millions of people, depending on the severity of the bio weapon they recovered from the terrorists. And that was in the first five minutes of Civil War. The story ain't over yet, Ace. It's only intermission. In all likelihood, they are going to end up saving half the freakin' universe. That should be a record that stands for a while. So - OP troll FAIL!!! Since the title of this thread indicates that it is about "superheroes" in general, let's talk about Superman in MoS again. That is certainly one of the most egregious examples of a superhero run amok. There is absolutely no reason to restrict the conversation to just a couple movies.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 18, 2018 21:18:12 GMT
Look dude, the MCU heroes save more people on average per movie than DCEU heroes do. That's just how it is. What's the average death toll per movie? Majority of MCU movies save the world. There are some that save multiple worlds and even multiple realms (like Thor).
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 21:18:17 GMT
I think they also did save the population of Earth by stopping Ultron in the sequel too though they were responsible for creating him in the first place. You can't count that. It would be like if an arsonist set a building with children inside on fire and then ran into the building and saved the children. If the arsonist hadn't started the fire, then the children wouldn't have needed saving. The arsonist shouldn't get credit for saving children from a fire that he started in the 1st place. Likewise, if Stark hadn't created Ultron, people wouldn't have need to be saved. The Avengers shouldn't get credit for saving people from a threat that they created in the 1st place.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 21:20:13 GMT
What's the average death toll per movie? Majority of MCU movies save the world. There are some that save multiple worlds and even multiple realms (like Thor). Your post is a lot like the last Presidential debate, in which neither of the candidates answered the question that was actually asked. The question here was "What's the average death toll per movie?".
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 18, 2018 21:20:59 GMT
I think they also did save the population of Earth by stopping Ultron in the sequel too though they were responsible for creating him in the first place. You can't count that. It would be like if an arsonist set a building with children inside on fire and then ran into the building and saved the children. If the arsonist hadn't started the fire, then the children wouldn't have needed saving. The arsonist shouldn't get credit for saving children from a fire that he started in the 1st place. Likewise, if Stark hadn't created Ultron, people wouldn't have need to be saved. The Avengers shouldn't get credit for saving people from a threat that they created in the 1st place. False analogy. The correct analogy would be what if Man A invented a flame thrower, then Man B stole it and used it to set a hospital on fire. If Man A (the inventor) saved everyone in the hospital, shouldn't he still be given credit for saving those people?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 18, 2018 21:22:13 GMT
Look dude, the MCU heroes save more people on average per movie than DCEU heroes do. That's just how it is. What's the average death toll per movie? Skaathar DC-Fan --- Hey guys, I think I can help clear some of this up. Here are some of the stats on casualties for the battle of New York. It's unfortunate that so many lives were lost due to the Avengers carelessness but, they were a new team who was just learning how to work with each other. A real consulting firm supposedly but these stats together.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 18, 2018 21:22:27 GMT
Majority of MCU movies save the world. There are some that save multiple worlds and even multiple realms (like Thor). So you decline to answer the question on what the average death toll per movie is. I just answered you. Go ahead and read again.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 21:25:35 GMT
What's the average death toll per movie? Skaathar DC-Fan --- Hey guys, I think I can help clear some of this up. Here are some of the stats on casualties for the battle of New York. It's unfortunate that so many lives were lost due to the Avengers carelessness but, they were a new team who was just learning how to work with each other. A real consulting firm supposedly but these stats together. Holy shit! So the casualties from the Battle of New York range from a minimum of 129,000 deaths to possibly as many as 329,000 deaths?
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Post by scabab on Jun 18, 2018 21:27:52 GMT
There's no way of knowing the average death toll so that's a silly thing to ask. You'd have to watch all 19 movies and add it up which would never be possible because of any off screen mass deaths. There's no such information on the internet for that.
To add on to what Skaathar was saying. The Guardians of the Galaxy saved a world from Ronan. They saved many world's from Ego.
Doctor Strange saved Earth from Dormammu taking it over.
Captain America crashing the ship stopped a mass attack on the major cities of America. Captain America shutting down the Helicarriers stopped millions of targeted people from being killed.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 18, 2018 21:28:34 GMT
Skaathar DC-Fan --- Hey guys, I think I can help clear some of this up. Here are some of the stats on casualties for the battle of New York. It's unfortunate that so many lives were lost due to the Avengers carelessness but, they were a new team who was just learning how to work with each other. A real consulting firm supposedly but these stats together. Holy shit! So the casualties from the Battle of New York range from a minimum of 129,000 deaths to possibly as many as 329,000 deaths? Oh snap, I made a mistake, sorry DC-Fan . It was the other New York I was thinking of. I think they call it --- METROPOLIS. Hee hee hee... You were tailor-made for this shit.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 21:31:06 GMT
How did you get here, Kratos? Letting the days go by? Letting the water pull you under? Hee hee hee... Seems weird that you'd conviently materialize to go to bat for scabab yet again. Are you his valet? You ain't fooling nobody --- KRATOS!!
And I don't NEED to do nothing but stay pretty and die. Cuz I'm sick of the whining every time I come here over the same thing. Your all crying over dc fan for asking a question but you and the others are causing more trouble by derailing threads and then crying about users and fairness. Did Avengers save anyone in Civil War? Not many because Scarlet Witch blew up a bunch of people and then in Infinity War they saved nobody and it ended with most the universe being wiped out. So no they havent really saved people. Even in Age of Ultron most the people died were a result of Stark and Banner making Ultron in the first place. MCU fans here have started several threads complaining about the lack of activity on this message board. Like I said in a previous post, I saw someone mention on another forum that Civil War was just about the Avengers having a squabble over a disagreement on the Accords and that the Avengers didn't save anyone in Civil War. So I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss on this forum, which MCU fans have complained about the lack of activity. That's why I posted the topic on this forum. But once again, MCU fans try to turn every thread into a MCU vs DC argument.
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Post by kratos on Jun 18, 2018 21:35:23 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 21:36:59 GMT
Holy shit! So the casualties from the Battle of New York range from a minimum of 129,000 deaths to possibly as many as 329,000 deaths? Oh snap, I made a mistake, sorry DC-Fan . It was the other New York I was thinking of. I think they call it --- METROPOLIS. Hee hee hee... Oh yeah, that's because Chitauri had no superpowers and were never a threat to destroy the world like the Zod and the Kryptonians were. So while Superman saved the entire world (7 billions people) in MoS, the Avengers didn't even save the state of New York. All they saved was 1 little island (8 million people).
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 21:39:35 GMT
8.5 million people saved by the Avengers in their first movie. Not bad, but nowhere as impressive as the 7 billion people saved by Superman in MoS.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 18, 2018 21:42:54 GMT
Oh snap, I made a mistake, sorry DC-Fan . It was the other New York I was thinking of. I think they call it --- METROPOLIS. Hee hee hee... Oh yeah, that's because Chitauri had no superpowers and were never a threat to destroy the world like the Zod and the Kryptonians were. So while Superman saved the entire world (7 billions people) in MoS, the Avengers didn't even save the state of New York. All they saved was 1 little island (8 million people). 129,000 deaths to possibly as many as 329,000 deaths [in the battle of Metropolis].
That analysis was conducted by a professional disaster analytics firm --- 329,000 dead in the battle of Metropolis. What do you think that does to the DCEU's death toll average? Nevermind, we're getting off topic here. DC-Fan, just answer this one question. Aren't superheroes supposed to save people? Hee hee hee...
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 18, 2018 21:45:45 GMT
How many people did he save by stopping Loki and his invasion force? Do you think they would have settled for NY? Hee hee hee...
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 21:48:43 GMT
There's no way of knowing the average death toll so that's a silly thing to ask. You'd have to watch all 19 movies and add it up which would never be possible because of any off screen mass deaths. There's no such information on the internet for that. To add on to what Skaathar was saying. The Guardians of the Galaxy saved a world from Ronan. They saved many world's from Ego. Doctor Strange saved Earth from Dormammu taking it over. Captain America crashing the ship stopped a mass attack on the major cities of America. Captain America shutting down the Helicarriers stopped millions of targeted people from being killed. Fair enough. Let's ponder another question: Understanding that not everyone can always be saved and sometimes collateral damage will occurs, would you agree that the number of innocent people saved should far outweigh the number of innocent people killed or not saved (i.e. the balance sheet should be positive in favor of the number of innocent people saved)? So is MCU's balance sheet over the 19 movies positive or negative?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 18, 2018 21:53:21 GMT
There's no way of knowing the average death toll so that's a silly thing to ask. You'd have to watch all 19 movies and add it up which would never be possible because of any off screen mass deaths. There's no such information on the internet for that. To add on to what Skaathar was saying. The Guardians of the Galaxy saved a world from Ronan. They saved many world's from Ego. Doctor Strange saved Earth from Dormammu taking it over. Captain America crashing the ship stopped a mass attack on the major cities of America. Captain America shutting down the Helicarriers stopped millions of targeted people from being killed. Fair enough. Let's ponder another question: Understanding that not everyone can always be saved and sometimes collateral damage will occurs, would you agree that the number of innocent people saved should far outweigh the number of innocent people killed or not saved (i.e. the balance sheet should be positive in favor of the number of innocent people saved)? So is MCU's balance sheet over the 19 movies positive or negative?
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