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Post by charzhino on Jun 27, 2018 18:43:57 GMT
A while ago I was criticized for making a thread where I put forward a certain poster of the film sparking concerns of people in how Disney are pushing their PC agenda into Marvel movies. Having read some of the reviews for Antman 2 which released few hours ago, whilst eye rolling once again at the consensus of lighthearted, fun, comedic crap which is said on repeat for most MCU movies, one review caught my attention to how pathetic the criteria is for Disney who selectively choose their critics for the first batch of RT rating reviews. And the review is painful to read, not less because of the poor, elementary style but the stupid non claims it makes and panders the SJW crowd hard. www.themarysue.com/ant-man-and-the-wasp-review/Its clear from the very first paragraph she was only interested in liking this film because of the feminist angle that Wasp represents. Whilst also ignoring the likes of Black widow, gamora, Nebula, etc and also pretends as if Wonder Woman and other non-MCU depictions like Mistique or Catwoman never happened. Such plainly limited knowledge is now what constitutes a professional movie critic and people still wonder how there remains a large disconnect between audiences and critics in general. But this re-focuses the concerns that Disney is pushing hard with appealing to SJWs like this rather than the fan. With the recent announcement that Captain Marvel will be the new flagship character, there is a possibility a Star wars like chasm could emerge. Finally a little bonus quote from her review to excellently showcase the great craftsmanship required to be a certified rotten tomatoes critic these days, fully permitted by Disney. A sentence even a 6 year old can write after seeing an MCU flick, without its grammar or punctuation being questioned:
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Post by scabab on Jun 27, 2018 19:01:48 GMT
I'm just hoping they don't dumb Ant-man down and make him repeatedly incompetent to make Wasp look even better.
If it's done properly I have no problem with it but because these movies are comedic I am wondering if that's what they'll do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 19:51:40 GMT
She's definitely critiquing the film through a feminist lens but that's not surprising coming from a feminist website. Whether or not feminists or religious or types of reviewers that review films through a specific lens, rather than generally, should be allowed to factor into the RT might be debatable based on the reviewer in question. However, studios are always going to ensure that critics likely to be "friendly" will be the first ones seeing the screenings, so I wouldn't expect accuracy in early RT scores period.
That said, she does address your main criticism of her review directly in the text of the article:
Her point was not that the MCU lacked strong female characters; just that they are rarely one of the primary characters. I'm not sure if you only skimmed the article or just left that out.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 27, 2018 19:52:13 GMT
A while ago I was criticized for making a thread where I put forward a certain poster of the film sparking concerns of people in how Disney are pushing their PC agenda into Marvel movies. Having read some of the reviews for Antman 2 which released few hours ago, whilst eye rolling once again at the consensus of lighthearted, fun, comedic crap which is said on repeat for most MCU movies, one review caught my attention to how pathetic the criteria is for Disney who selectively choose their critics for the first batch of RT rating reviews. And the review is painful to read, not less because of the poor, elementary style but the stupid non claims it makes and panders the SJW crowd hard. www.themarysue.com/ant-man-and-the-wasp-review/Its clear from the very first paragraph she was only interested in liking this film because of the feminist angle that Wasp represents. Whilst also ignoring the likes of Black widow, gamora, Nebula, etc and also pretends as if Wonder Woman and other non-MCU depictions like Mistique or Catwoman never happened. Such plainly limited knowledge is now what constitutes a professional movie critic and people still wonder how there remains a large disconnect between audiences and critics in general. But this re-focuses the concerns that Disney is pushing hard with appealing to SJWs like this rather than the fan. With the recent announcement that Captain Marvel will be the new flagship character, there is a possibility a Star wars like chasm could emerge. Finally a little bonus quote from her review to excellently showcase the great craftsmanship required to be a certified rotten tomatoes critic these days, fully permitted by Disney. A sentence even a 6 year old can write after seeing an MCU flick, without its grammar or punctuation being questioned: Isn't that better than a humid dream, or a moist dream, or a soggy dream, or a damp dream, or a dank dream? If It's a properly lubricated "wet dream," we know that nature will take its course. Fine work as always, Charz.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 27, 2018 20:44:53 GMT
Oy vey. Who do you hate more? Women or people that talk positively about women? This thread is beyond ridiculous. Im highlighting the fact that so called critics like this one get invited to MCU premieres and are allowed to contribute to Rotten tomatoes scores when its obvious that the film isnt being judged on quality, but on social justice brownie points and Disney are happy to comply like they did with Last jedi which unforseen to them took a backlash. And the fact Captain Marvel is being made the flagship character through no real merit is a worry we could see a division. Its a trend.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 27, 2018 20:47:57 GMT
She's definitely critiquing the film through a feminist lens but that's not surprising coming from a feminist website. Whether or not feminists or religious or types of reviewers that review films through a specific lens, rather than generally, should be allowed to factor into the RT might be debatable based on the reviewer in question. However, studios are always going to ensure that critics likely to be "friendly" will be the first ones seeing the screenings, so I wouldn't expect accuracy in early RT scores periodThis is the problem. Early RT score are so biased, they might as well have been paid by Disney because they arent going to wide release it to every critic. Its engineered to make MCU movies look spectacular on release, as often is a tagline- Marvel outdoes themselves again! Its bullshit and people flouting the early RT score here as if it were a trophy are complicit in the crime.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 27, 2018 20:50:09 GMT
I'm just hoping they don't dumb Ant-man down and make him repeatedly incompetent to make Wasp look even better. If it's done properly I have no problem with it but because these movies are comedic I am wondering if that's what they'll do. They've already set up the joke in the first movie. Scott is kind of bumbling compared to Hope. Hope already knew a lot of what she'll need to know in Ant-man but was held back. Scott being new to it got things wrong. Even in Civil War you got the "I thought it was a water truck" mistake. That will probably continue as he hasn't been Ant-man since Civil War. If I had to bet I would say he'll continue making mistakes up until the 3rd act where he'll will do something with the best intentions and do something incredibly selfless. I will also bet that their will be a scene at the end or after the credits where he will see his daughter cease to exist. She, Hank, and Janet will turn to ash. "Killing" a child and the reaction to it would be as gut wrenching as Spiderman begging for his life. As I've said before that moment got my elder sister and her almost grown up kids crying in Infinity War. The Daddy moment in Logan got my two brothers, Uncle, Aunt and cousins crying. (Comicbook movie premiers has become a tradition with that group. the second group live close together. My sister and her kids try to make it to them but they live 2.5hrs away so they can't always make it.)
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Post by charzhino on Jun 27, 2018 20:51:11 GMT
oggy dream, or a damp dream, or a dank dream? If It's a properly lubricated "wet dream," we know that nature will take its course. Fine work as always, Charz. Once again LORD d!*£ man waffles nonsence and evades the topic of discussion.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 27, 2018 21:18:57 GMT
I just generally stay away from anything written by www.themarysue.com. Are they even considered an official movie critic?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 27, 2018 21:21:11 GMT
Sally Jessy Wraphael?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 27, 2018 21:22:15 GMT
oggy dream, or a damp dream, or a dank dream? If It's a properly lubricated "wet dream," we know that nature will take its course. Fine work as always, Charz. Once again LORD d!*£ man waffles nonsence and evades the topic of discussion. We're all friends here charzhino, please, call me Death Man. "LORD" is so formal. You'll forgive me if I decline to discuss your dreams (wet or otherwise). Enjoy your butthurt, the fandom of record will be serving you more soon. Love, LDM
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Post by Vassaggo on Jun 27, 2018 22:43:29 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Jun 28, 2018 0:19:09 GMT
Oh the humanity...
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jun 28, 2018 0:25:12 GMT
Who gives a shit?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 28, 2018 10:45:29 GMT
I can't wait for all this "ZOMGZ TEH SJW'S!!111" shit to end.
You guys really like beating that dead horse.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 28, 2018 14:31:10 GMT
Not going to complain about more prominent women in MCU films, because there are barely any. As long as they are well written characters it should not matter. If you afraid of strong woman, that is your problem.
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Post by Larcen26 on Jun 28, 2018 14:45:01 GMT
A while ago I was criticized for making a thread where I put forward a certain poster of the film sparking concerns of people in how Disney are pushing their PC agenda into Marvel movies. Having read some of the reviews for Antman 2 which released few hours ago, whilst eye rolling once again at the consensus of lighthearted, fun, comedic crap which is said on repeat for most MCU movies, one review caught my attention to how pathetic the criteria is for Disney who selectively choose their critics for the first batch of RT rating reviews. And the review is painful to read, not less because of the poor, elementary style but the stupid non claims it makes and panders the SJW crowd hard. www.themarysue.com/ant-man-and-the-wasp-review/Its clear from the very first paragraph she was only interested in liking this film because of the feminist angle that Wasp represents. Whilst also ignoring the likes of Black widow, gamora, Nebula, etc and also pretends as if Wonder Woman and other non-MCU depictions like Mistique or Catwoman never happened. Such plainly limited knowledge is now what constitutes a professional movie critic and people still wonder how there remains a large disconnect between audiences and critics in general. But this re-focuses the concerns that Disney is pushing hard with appealing to SJWs like this rather than the fan. With the recent announcement that Captain Marvel will be the new flagship character, there is a possibility a Star wars like chasm could emerge. Finally a little bonus quote from her review to excellently showcase the great craftsmanship required to be a certified rotten tomatoes critic these days, fully permitted by Disney. A sentence even a 6 year old can write after seeing an MCU flick, without its grammar or punctuation being questioned: I laughed at the other post, and I laugh harder at this one...
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Post by Larcen26 on Jun 28, 2018 14:49:31 GMT
She's definitely critiquing the film through a feminist lens but that's not surprising coming from a feminist website. Whether or not feminists or religious or types of reviewers that review films through a specific lens, rather than generally, should be allowed to factor into the RT might be debatable based on the reviewer in question. However, studios are always going to ensure that critics likely to be "friendly" will be the first ones seeing the screenings, so I wouldn't expect accuracy in early RT scores periodThis is the problem. Early RT score are so biased, they might as well have been paid by Disney because they arent going to wide release it to every critic. Its engineered to make MCU movies look spectacular on release, as often is a tagline- Marvel outdoes themselves again! Its bullshit and people flouting the early RT score here as if it were a trophy are complicit in the crime. What is this obsession everyone has with Rotten Tomotoes... The site means absolutely nothing... Who cares?
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 28, 2018 15:50:07 GMT
She's definitely critiquing the film through a feminist lens but that's not surprising coming from a feminist website. Whether or not feminists or religious or types of reviewers that review films through a specific lens, rather than generally, should be allowed to factor into the RT might be debatable based on the reviewer in question. However, studios are always going to ensure that critics likely to be "friendly" will be the first ones seeing the screenings, so I wouldn't expect accuracy in early RT scores periodThis is the problem. Early RT score are so biased, they might as well have been paid by Disney because they arent going to wide release it to every critic. Its engineered to make MCU movies look spectacular on release, as often is a tagline- Marvel outdoes themselves again! Its bullshit and people flouting the early RT score here as if it were a trophy are complicit in the crime. So how do you explain A wrinkle in time? Did Disney just forget to pay critics then?
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Post by Larcen26 on Jun 28, 2018 16:07:42 GMT
This is the problem. Early RT score are so biased, they might as well have been paid by Disney because they arent going to wide release it to every critic. Its engineered to make MCU movies look spectacular on release, as often is a tagline- Marvel outdoes themselves again! Its bullshit and people flouting the early RT score here as if it were a trophy are complicit in the crime. So how do you explain A wrinkle in time? Did Disney just forget to pay critics then? My guess to his response? "THE REAL PUBLIC SAW THE BASTARDIZATION OF A GREAT TALE AS THE SJW PANDERING THAT IT WAS AND REVOLTED AGAINST IT SO THEY HAD TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THEIR FUTURE INDOCTRINIZATION!" Or something equally MRA and Irritating.
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