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Post by darkpast on Jul 24, 2018 18:30:40 GMT
You really think so...? If you’re just fooling around, what do you find bogus about it? When I'm all done, and I have to go before the creator and account for all of the heinous crimes I committed against my fellow man, do you know what I'm going to say in my defense? Dear God, I was framed. Please reread darkpast's quotes and decide for yourself whether or not I am being serious. No need for trial, lock him up, random blog on internet is all the proof you need |
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Post by darkpast on Jul 24, 2018 18:32:17 GMT
So there's a rumour going around that Chris, Zoe, Dave and Pom are going to make a group response to give marvel an ultimatum. What that is? I don't know. But speculation is they may walk away from the franchise if Gunn isn't rehired. Rehired and apologized to with a raise |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 24, 2018 18:40:51 GMT
Apparently, per these people, that’s the proof that this is a credible site. My real question is, did you find something faulty in his claim on how police procedure works? P.S. Honestly... with so many of these claims... I have no idea if they think they’re really going after child rapists or they’re using child rapist claim to hide their own crimes. There isn't enough credible information to make a determination one way or the other. And much like the stock market, past performance is not indicative of future results. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 24, 2018 20:28:25 GMT
I don't think he should've been fired, but at the end of the day it's up to the employer. I find it hilarious that Roseanne gets fired and everyone applauds ABC (who is owned by Disney) for their decision, but then James Gunn gets fired and everyone suddenly says Disney is anti-free speech and made the wrong decision. They did almost the exact same thing - Tweeted out something stupid that they meant as a joke. They both got fired. What makes James Gunn immune to firing and Roseanne perfectly suitable to be fired? And that's coming from a guy that likes James Gunn and hates Roseanne. The two situations aren't exactly the same, conflating them shows a dangerous lack of critical thinking. The only thing that the two individuals have in common is the platform they used to deliver their tasteless rhetoric. Roseanne Barr insulted a living person --- very recently. Although once a public figure, Valerie Jarrett is now more or less a private citizen. This makes Barr's comments libelous as neither Ms. Jarrett nor her lineage is Muslim. When asked to explain herself, Barr blamed her overt racism on her prescription medication. James Gunn posted insensitive remarks, designed to offend everyone within earshot, seemingly for his own amusement --- seven to ten years ago. James Gunn took full responsibility for his comments, stating that he did not live things he posted. Other than asking for the forgiveness of those he offended, Gunn sought no further clemency and did not try to rationalize or justify his actions. Neither individual deserves a pass; however, their offenses shouldn't be lumped together because they both occurred on the same social network. Yes, there are differences, but that's not where the controversy is anymore. The controversy now is that he was fired. In that regard, they're the same. They said something that got them fired. Roseanne's firing was a "great move by Disney." James Gunn's firing was "an oppression of free speech and the wrong move." The whole argument of who said the more insulting thing is irrelevant at this point. They're both the same now because they both lost their job on an executive judgment call; yet for some reason people all of the sudden believe the opposite things about said firings. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 24, 2018 21:19:10 GMT
The two situations aren't exactly the same, conflating them shows a dangerous lack of critical thinking. The only thing that the two individuals have in common is the platform they used to deliver their tasteless rhetoric. Roseanne Barr insulted a living person --- very recently. Although once a public figure, Valerie Jarrett is now more or less a private citizen. This makes Barr's comments libelous as neither Ms. Jarrett nor her lineage is Muslim. When asked to explain herself, Barr blamed her overt racism on her prescription medication. James Gunn posted insensitive remarks, designed to offend everyone within earshot, seemingly for his own amusement --- seven to ten years ago. James Gunn took full responsibility for his comments, stating that he did not live things he posted. Other than asking for the forgiveness of those he offended, Gunn sought no further clemency and did not try to rationalize or justify his actions. Neither individual deserves a pass; however, their offenses shouldn't be lumped together because they both occurred on the same social network. Yes, there are differences, but that's not where the controversy is anymore. The controversy now is that he was fired. In that regard, they're the same. They said something that got them fired. Roseanne's firing was a "great move by Disney." James Gunn's firing was "an oppression of free speech and the wrong move." The whole argument of who said the more insulting thing is irrelevant at this point. They're both the same now because they both lost their job on an executive judgment call; yet for some reason people all of the sudden believe the opposite things about said firings. Barr and Gunn's mutual firings aren't the story here either. And the story isn't about rape, pedophilia, AIDS, 911 the Holocaust or any of the other sensitive subjects Gunn used as fodder for his shock-jock humor. James Gunn's firing is about politics - plain and simple. The story starts and ends there. Everyone is so distracted by allegations of pedophilia that they're chasing their tails looking for kiddie rapers around every corner. And they are there mind you; they just don't advertise on Twitter. And no one seems to understand the broader implications of Gunn and Barr being fired and blacklisted by Disney. They, or any artist who is ostracized by Disney, will soon lose access to 40% of Hollywood regarding future opportunities. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 1:03:22 GMT
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Post by merh on Jul 25, 2018 1:20:26 GMT
So an Alex Jones cohort who accuses people he disagrees with of pedophilia. Pled down a rape charge. Nice guy, Ackbar. Don't think its a trap? Not sure what that has to do with the other guy being a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty in the US. This one is 4 minutes. The reporter asks about pizzagate & a tweet Cernovich put out 5 days before the election that the Clintons ran a pedophilia ring-does Cernovich believe the Clintons ran a pedophilia ring? Cernovich says no. They know Wiener & he is a pedophiliac.but he doesnt see any problem making the false accusation. So, Ackbar, do you still back Cernovich? Does joking about killing someone make one a killer? By your words, that Gunn joked about it so he is would suggest the same applies to every crime. |
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Post by darkpast on Jul 25, 2018 3:49:42 GMT
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 25, 2018 4:48:19 GMT
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 25, 2018 5:39:25 GMT
imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/117403/wtf-mcu-fans-despicableHow can you people even like/defend that guy? Now he’s implying MCU fans are the most despicable of people. ONLY MCU fans would do that! Even actual child rapists wouldn’t do that because they’re not as despicable as MCU fans! Then again he did make a thread about MCU fans being pedophiles/child rapists one time. To despise a movie franchise and its fanbase to that extent is pure insanity.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jul 25, 2018 9:31:59 GMT
Not sure what that has to do with the other guy being a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty in the US. wrong, this in dubio pro reo principle applies to Criminal Court Proceeding only. Not to a court of public opinion. Is Weinstein & Co innocent? Criminally yes, publicly no.
Your argument is as clumsy as it is irrelevant, merh.
who here ever claimed to back this guy and what has it to do with anything? He is the messenger who provided the irrefutable evidence which is confirmed to be valid and true as Gunn himself confirmed.
Your straw man is as clumsy as it is deflective, merh.
That is obtuse, merh. A pedophile is commonly defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child".
Now, you have sombody like James "Did you create a penis" Gunn who posted dozens of disturbing tweets about his child rape fantasies and sexual acts with children or his good relationship with pedophiles and their pedo associations. From this uncontested evidence it seems only common sense and logical to conclude that this person is a pedophile.
Did he ever rape children? We do not know, but that is not necessary to be qualified as a pedophile.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jul 25, 2018 9:52:44 GMT
imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/117403/wtf-mcu-fans-despicableHow can you people even like/defend that guy? Now he’s implying MCU fans are the most despicable of people. ONLY MCU fans would do that! Even actual child rapists wouldn’t do that because they’re not as despicable as MCU fans! Then again he did make a thread about MCU fans being pedophiles/child rapists one time. To despise a movie franchise and its fanbase to that extent is pure insanity. oh now we are down to the old "punish the messenger and scapegoats" deflection?
This is not about DC Fan's insanity. This is about Mr Gunn's disturbing child rape and pedophilia ramblings, and about the moral depravity of those defending him.
Don't forget, DC Fan was the one who forgave you all. When MCU fans doxxed his facebook account and desecrated his dead relatives, he spoke on your sorry behalves. Some MCU fans involved still linger here unpunished.
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Post by sostie on Jul 25, 2018 10:46:16 GMT
imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/117403/wtf-mcu-fans-despicableHow can you people even like/defend that guy? Now he’s implying MCU fans are the most despicable of people. ONLY MCU fans would do that! Even actual child rapists wouldn’t do that because they’re not as despicable as MCU fans! Then again he did make a thread about MCU fans being pedophiles/child rapists one time. To despise a movie franchise and its fanbase to that extent is pure insanity. oh now we are down to the old "punish the messenger and scapegoats" deflection?
This is not about DC Fan's insanity. This is about Mr Gunn's disturbing child rape and pedophilia ramblings, and about the moral depravity of those defending him.
Don't forget, DC Fan was the one who forgave you all. When MCU fans doxxed his facebook account and desecrated his dead relatives, he spoke on your sorry behalves. Some MCU fans involved still linger here unpunished.
Oh c'mon. This is nothing to do with punishing the messenger , but more to do with DC-Fans constant statements that if someone linked with the MCU does or says something that he finds wrong it is therefore every MCU fan that is guilty of or supports that act. As for "forgave us all". Fuck off. You are doing exactly the same thing by implying all MCU fans were responsible for the doxxing. (Something this "MCU Fan" wasn't aware happened until after the fact). Just because you frequent this board or like certain films does not mean we supported what was done or were responsible. Believe it or not I have defended DC Fan in the past...and then got he who "why are all MCU fans" crap thrown in my face, but hey he forgave me for something a couple of other people did so that is OK. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 11:37:45 GMT
Well if anything good came out of this it's the discussion of what should be fireable offense and what shouldn't be.
You got one side that agreed with Roseanne firing but are upset with James Gunn firing.
You have another side that agreed with James Gunn firing but are upset with Roseanne firing.
Then you have another group who believe both deserved to be fired.
And then you have another who believe that both Roseanne and James Gunn shouldn't have been fired.
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Post by charzhino on Jul 25, 2018 12:09:14 GMT
I think the poll results are pretty conclusive. James Gunn deserved to be fired.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 13:07:32 GMT
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 25, 2018 13:46:20 GMT
I think the poll results are pretty conclusive. James Gunn deserved to be fired. Hollywood companies and politics are weird. In a corporate environment, a firing like that would land Disney in a lawsuit. In any case, I hope Disney is prepared for the backlash that their decision will receive. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 25, 2018 13:51:26 GMT
Well if anything good came out of this it's the discussion of what should be fireable offense and what shouldn't be. You got one side that agreed with Roseanne firing but are upset with James Gunn firing. You have another side that agreed with James Gunn firing but are upset with Roseanne firing. Then you have another group who believe both deserved to be fired. And then you have another who believe that both Roseanne and James Gunn shouldn't have been fired. To be fair, Roseanne made her comments while under her employer. Even did it on the show. Gunn made his comments before getting hired by his employer and before he was connected to them in any way. Firing Roseanne is like me firing one of my staff for displaying bad behavior while on the job. Firing Gunn is like me firing one of my staff for bad behavior they showed in a past job while with a different company. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 14:28:23 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 25, 2018 15:58:26 GMT
Not sure what that has to do with the other guy being a pedophile. Innocent until proven guilty in the US. So, Ackbar, do you still back Cernovich? Does joking about killing someone make one a killer? By your words, that Gunn joked about it so he is would suggest the same applies to every crime. What the fuck are you talking about? I don't "back" anyone. Gunn was fired by his employer for making tweets about pedophilia. He actually did that. Case closed. |
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