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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 25, 2018 15:58:43 GMT
That's the catch, it's Disney. They cannot remain Disney as Disney & the universe knows Disney while not firing ppl over things of this nature. If Disney does end up firing everyone & anyone for past social media postings, count on them being the first large studio to have A.I. doing all their creative work for them. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 25, 2018 16:02:26 GMT
I think the poll results are pretty conclusive. James Gunn deserved to be fired. No it wouldn't. Woman Fired After Tweet on AIDS in Africa |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 16:11:39 GMT
I think the poll results are pretty conclusive. James Gunn deserved to be fired. Hollywood companies and politics are weird. In a corporate environment, a firing like that would land Disney in a lawsuit. In any case, I hope Disney is prepared for the backlash that their decision will receive. It's looking like the backlash has begun. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 16:13:17 GMT
By the way, neither Kevin Feige or Marvel has commented on this so far.
It's strange...
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Post by sostie on Jul 25, 2018 18:03:23 GMT
What Gunn said was pretty extreme and tasteless, but unless there is some proof otherwise, he is guilty of no more than posting some very sick jokes
Of course some are going to find Disney at fault for employing him with this in the past. So can we expect a backlash against American Zeotrope/Coppola (not sure if Lucas was still involved in the company at the time) for employing Victor Salva well after his crimes were exposed. Or the people who chose to work with with full knowledge of his past? How about those linked with Polanski? Woody Allen? Brett Ratner? Will there be the same outcry if the accusations against Brian Singer turn out to be true.
It's pretty obvious that this has happened because someone is against Gunn's political stance and want to "get the liberal". (not saying that I defend or agree with what Gunn posted).
The worrying thing is, that this could be the the opening of an unsavoury can of worms. Any such online war between, for want of better terms, Liberals and Conservative, is almost always going to be "won" by the Cons.
If a Conservative does or says something despicable, whether now or in the past, they own it. They'll defend or deny it. They'll talk about their right to do it under the constitution, or they'll call it fake news. The Liberals will contest, but there will a large number Cons that would support them.
When a Liberal is "exposed"...well both sides react, and the majority of both sides be against it. Conservatives who rail against SJWs and their views instantly become SJWs themselves (I've noticed that with one or two posters in this very thread).
Anyone who has said anything "wrong" on the net in the past could well be exposed, but those with Conservative views are more likely to survive. The pressure for action against a Liberal is bigger...the support smaller.
In a worst case scenario I worry who will actually be left or in the majority in the entertainment business. And what message will be spread.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 25, 2018 18:47:12 GMT
What Gunn said was pretty extreme and tasteless, but unless there is some proof otherwise, he is guilty of no more than posting some very sick jokes Of course some are going to find Disney at fault for employing him with this in the past. So can we expect a backlash against American Zeotrope/Coppola (not sure if Lucas was still involved in the company at the time) for employing Victor Salva well after his crimes were exposed. Or the people who chose to work with with full knowledge of his past? How about those linked with Polanski? Woody Allen? Brett Ratner? Will there be the same outcry if the accusations against Brian Singer turn out to be true. It's pretty obvious that this has happened because someone is against Gunn's political stance and want to "get the liberal". (not saying that I defend or agree with what Gunn posted). The worrying thing is, that this could be the the opening of an unsavoury can of worms. Any such online war between, for want of better terms, Liberals and Conservative, is almost always going to be "won" by the Cons. If a Conservative does or says something despicable, whether now or in the past, they own it. They'll defend or deny it. They'll talk about their right to do it under the constitution, or they'll call it fake news. The Liberals will contest, but there will a large number Cons that would support them. When a Liberal is "exposed"...well both sides react, and the majority of both sides be against it. Conservatives who rail against SJWs and their views instantly become SJWs themselves (I've noticed that with one or two posters in this very thread). Anyone who has said anything "wrong" on the net in the past could well be exposed, but those with Conservative views are more likely to survive. The pressure for action against a Liberal is bigger...the support smaller. In a worst case scenario I worry who will actually be left or in the majority in the entertainment business. And what message will be spread. In any case, have you read 2 Crazy Days and Nights posts posted by darkpast on this thread? If you did, what do you think of them? |
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Post by sostie on Jul 25, 2018 19:09:10 GMT
What Gunn said was pretty extreme and tasteless, but unless there is some proof otherwise, he is guilty of no more than posting some very sick jokes Of course some are going to find Disney at fault for employing him with this in the past. So can we expect a backlash against American Zeotrope/Coppola (not sure if Lucas was still involved in the company at the time) for employing Victor Salva well after his crimes were exposed. Or the people who chose to work with with full knowledge of his past? How about those linked with Polanski? Woody Allen? Brett Ratner? Will there be the same outcry if the accusations against Brian Singer turn out to be true. It's pretty obvious that this has happened because someone is against Gunn's political stance and want to "get the liberal". (not saying that I defend or agree with what Gunn posted). The worrying thing is, that this could be the the opening of an unsavoury can of worms. Any such online war between, for want of better terms, Liberals and Conservative, is almost always going to be "won" by the Cons. If a Conservative does or says something despicable, whether now or in the past, they own it. They'll defend or deny it. They'll talk about their right to do it under the constitution, or they'll call it fake news. The Liberals will contest, but there will a large number Cons that would support them. When a Liberal is "exposed"...well both sides react, and the majority of both sides be against it. Conservatives who rail against SJWs and their views instantly become SJWs themselves (I've noticed that with one or two posters in this very thread). Anyone who has said anything "wrong" on the net in the past could well be exposed, but those with Conservative views are more likely to survive. The pressure for action against a Liberal is bigger...the support smaller. In a worst case scenario I worry who will actually be left or in the majority in the entertainment business. And what message will be spread. In any case, have you read 2 Crazy Days and Nights posts posted by darkpast on this thread? If you did, what do you think of them? What is there to say? Someone makes vague accusations, with nothing to back it up, and then lets the public speculate |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 25, 2018 20:13:58 GMT
Yes it would. That woman sent those tweets while employed in that company. Completely different circumstances from Gunn. |
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 25, 2018 20:32:17 GMT
Yes it would. That woman sent those tweets while employed in that company. Completely different circumstances from Gunn. darkpast is keep posting posts from Crazy Days and Nights. Have you read them? If you did, what do you think of them? |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 25, 2018 20:32:22 GMT
Yes it would. That woman sent those tweets while employed in that company. Completely different circumstances from Gunn. No it wouldn't. Gunn sent some pedo tweets while employed by Disney. Completely the same circumstances. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 25, 2018 20:33:28 GMT
Yes it would. That woman sent those tweets while employed in that company. Completely different circumstances from Gunn. No it wouldn't. Gunn sent some pedo tweets while employed by Disney. Completely the same circumstances as hers. Really? What pedo tweets were those? Could you post a link? Because all the posts I've seen were from BEFORE he was hired for GOTG. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 25, 2018 20:37:28 GMT
No it wouldn't. Gunn sent some pedo tweets while employed by Disney. Completely the same circumstances as hers. Really? What pedo tweets were those? Could you post a link? Because all the posts I've seen were from BEFORE he was hired for GOTG. Sure thing my friend: :format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11721855/DiiVF4kXUAAJLWr.jpg) "Eagle snatches kid is what I call it when I get lucky" is dated December 22, 2012. Gunn was hired by Disney in September 2012. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 25, 2018 20:46:34 GMT
I think I am going to step back from this conversation ( for the second time this week )
I am not here to make enemies, or piss people off.
Hopefully there are no hard feelings.
Everyone here is entitled to their opinion.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 20:54:44 GMT
Woot! We're on page 17!
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Post by James Bond on Jul 25, 2018 21:03:50 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 25, 2018 23:07:19 GMT
Maybe, if your ashamed of comics. I'M BRINGING IT BACK! |
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Post by merh on Jul 26, 2018 5:05:23 GMT
Innocent until proven guilty in the US. wrong, this in dubio pro reo principle applies to Criminal Court Proceeding only. Not to a court of public opinion. Is Weinstein & Co innocent? Criminally yes, publicly no.
Your argument is as clumsy as it is irrelevant, merh.
who here ever claimed to back this guy and what has it to do with anything? He is the messenger who provided the irrefutable evidence which is confirmed to be valid and true as Gunn himself confirmed.
Your straw man is as clumsy as it is deflective, merh.
That is obtuse, merh. A pedophile is commonly defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child".
Now, you have sombody like James "Did you create a penis" Gunn who posted dozens of disturbing tweets about his child rape fantasies and sexual acts with children or his good relationship with pedophiles and their pedo associations. From this uncontested evidence it seems only common sense and logical to conclude that this person is a pedophile.
Did he ever rape children? We do not know, but that is not necessary to be qualified as a pedophile.
Lots of guys joke about rape & pedophilia. I always assumed it was some deep seated fear they all possess of this. You hate Gunn so of course you choose to believe the worst. edition.cnn.com/2018/07/25/entertainment/chris-hardwick-talking-dead/index.htmlWow. They actually investigated & he got his job back Maybe Disney should have done that with Gunn. The tweets had been deleted. Gunn "repented" Cernovich accuses everyone of pedophilia that he disagrees with. On Vice he said he didnt believe the Clintons ran a pedophilia ring even though he tweeted that accusation 5 days before the election. |
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Post by darkpast on Jul 26, 2018 5:12:05 GMT
What is the next MCU film expected to go into production next?
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Post by merh on Jul 26, 2018 5:36:27 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 26, 2018 5:40:08 GMT
Hollywood companies and politics are weird. In a corporate environment, a firing like that would land Disney in a lawsuit. In any case, I hope Disney is prepared for the backlash that their decision will receive. It's looking like the backlash has begun. It's despicable that so many MCU fans are supporting a pedophile scumbag like Gunn. If you had a kid in elementary school and your kid's teacher tweeted about how he likes to rape young kids, you'd want the school to fire that teacher. So now that Gunn has tweeted about how he likes to rape young kids, MCU fans support Gunn just because they like his movies. Like I said, that's just despicable! |
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