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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 30, 2018 18:47:57 GMT
As far as the internet is concerned it doesn't really matter when the statements were made, they're all there for the world to see at any time and any place, and no amount of apologizing whether in the past or recently can convince every person and make things right in their mind. Just sayin'. It seems that as far as the cast of the GotG movies are concerned, it does make a difference, since these guys seem to genuinely believe that Gunn has in fact changed. If Barr can prove that she’s able to change for the better, she should also be forgiven. At the end of the day what Disney most concerned about is their image - They want to present a family friendly environment that welcomes all walks of life, and having somebody who brings a certain level of controversy is not strongly desired. As far as they're concerned it doesn't matter if Gunn was only joking or how much he has changed as a person since, and it doesn't matter if Roseanne Barr's tweet on Valerie Jarret was intended to be something much different than what a lot of people perceived it as being - They don't want to take the risk.
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 30, 2018 19:00:32 GMT
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 30, 2018 19:13:38 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 30, 2018 19:21:00 GMT
This is getting pretty ridiculous. Gunn made very inappropriate and questionable attempts at humor in the past and it came up and bit him in the ass years later and Disney fired him. What's done is done, if Disney suddenly decides to re-hire him then they might as well re-hire Roseanne Barr and turn The Connors into the next season of Roseanne (Mind you, what Gunn wrote was much, much worse than Barr had which cost her her show). I understand he's a good friend and everything, business is business. They can easily find another director to take over Vol 3 and who knows? They might even do a better job than Gunn did with the other two movies for all we know. As much as I condemn Disney for their unjust firing of Gunn... I have to admit that rehiring him is just not the right move. It's just going to get messier if they go that route. The best thing for them to do is simply give him a decent severance pay and call it quits... like what most companies do. It wasn't an unjust firing. Gunn is a creepy, sicko pedophile.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 30, 2018 19:23:07 GMT
As far as the internet is concerned it doesn't really matter when the statements were made, they're all there for the world to see at any time and any place, and no amount of apologizing whether in the past or recently can convince every person and make things right in their mind. Just sayin'. It seems that as far as the cast of the GotG movies are concerned, it does make a difference, since these guys seem to genuinely believe that Gunn has in fact changed. If Barr can prove that she’s able to change for the better, she should also be forgiven. The GotG cast doesn't believe that Gunn has changed any more than Patriots fans believe that Shady Brady didn't order the deflation of the footballs or Julian PEDelman didn't take PEDs. The GotG cast wants Gunn back because they know that without Gunn, GotG3 will most likely be cancelled and they'll all be out of a big paycheck.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 30, 2018 19:26:24 GMT
Oh wow they got Vin and Bradley? I didn't expect those two to comment on the controversy. My feelings aside, it's nice to see the cast rally behind Gunn. Disney should fire the entire cast of GotG for supporting a scumbag pedophile like Gunn.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 30, 2018 19:28:26 GMT
As much as I condemn Disney for their unjust firing of Gunn... I have to admit that rehiring him is just not the right move. It's just going to get messier if they go that route. The best thing for them to do is simply give him a decent severance pay and call it quits... like what most companies do. It wasn't an unjust firing. Gunn is a creepy, sicko pedophile. Where is the evidence that Gunn is what you describe as being? Twitter humor is not sufficient proof. Proof would be if somebody came forward with an allegation that is proven to be 100% true in a court of law.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 30, 2018 19:30:49 GMT
It seems that as far as the cast of the GotG movies are concerned, it does make a difference, since these guys seem to genuinely believe that Gunn has in fact changed. If Barr can prove that she’s able to change for the better, she should also be forgiven. The GotG cast doesn't believe that Gunn has changed any more than Patriots fans believe that Shady Brady didn't order the deflation of the footballs or Julian PEDelman didn't take PEDs. The GotG cast wants Gunn back because they know that without Gunn, GotG3 will most likely be cancelled and they'll all be out of a big paycheck. What are you talking about? GOTG Vol. 3 will still get made regardless of whether or not James Gunn directs, they can easily find a replacement to take over.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 30, 2018 19:35:13 GMT
Oh wow they got Vin and Bradley? I didn't expect those two to comment on the controversy. My feelings aside, it's nice to see the cast rally behind Gunn. Disney should fire the entire cast of GotG for supporting a scumbag pedophile like Gunn. Why should they be fired? They have done nothing wrong here. It's not like they are saying "have James Gunn direct or we're out", they are saying that his jokes from yesteryear do not reflect him as an individual that he has come a long ways since those days when he was a quirky, independent content creator. And again, where is the evidence that Gunn is what you describe him as being? Off-collar Twitter jokes are not evidence. Evidence would be if somebody came forward with an allegation and was found 100% right in a court of law.
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Post by charzhino on Jul 30, 2018 19:39:14 GMT
A 40 year old man called James Gunn making peado jokes, yet GOTG cast support him. They are all man children
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 30, 2018 19:58:02 GMT
Technically this should be in the James Gunn Mega thread, but i'll let it slide.
Moved the other thread in this one.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 30, 2018 20:02:23 GMT
A 40 year old man called James Gunn making peado jokes, yet GOTG cast support him. They are all man children Even the women? Could he have tampered with them as such?
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Post by charzhino on Jul 30, 2018 20:48:02 GMT
A 40 year old man called James Gunn making peado jokes, yet GOTG cast support him. They are all man children Even the women? Could he have tampered with them as such? Yes even the women. He seems to have his cast on strings. Maybe you should rename this thread to The Cult of Gunn.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 30, 2018 20:50:56 GMT
A 40 year old man called James Gunn making peado jokes, yet GOTG cast support him. They are all man children They're not defending his jokes.
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Post by charzhino on Jul 30, 2018 21:16:55 GMT
A 40 year old man called James Gunn making peado jokes, yet GOTG cast support him. They are all man children They're not defending his jokes. I didnt say they are defending his jokes. They are supporting a guy who made peado jokes at 40 years old. If i reach 40 and I have friends my age making the same typa "jokes", I would distance myself away frm them!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 21:20:07 GMT
It wasn't an unjust firing. Gunn is a creepy, sicko pedophile. Where is the evidence that Gunn is what you describe as being? Twitter humor is not sufficient proof. Proof would be if somebody came forward with an allegation that is proven to be 100% true in a court of law. Well... He does actually admit to it in his tweets. Was he "joking"? Maybe. But he does say it himself. Did he claim it over and over and over simply for shock value? I find that hard to believe... Unless he's completely insane.
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Post by sostie on Jul 30, 2018 22:10:24 GMT
Oh wow they got Vin and Bradley? I didn't expect those two to comment on the controversy. My feelings aside, it's nice to see the cast rally behind Gunn. Disney should fire the entire cast of GotG for supporting a scumbag pedophile like Gunn. And we should also boycott any film that features Harrison Ford for example. He worked for and signed a petition in support of Roman Polanski after he fled the States. As did many other big names. Or everyone who worked with Victor Salva after his conviction came to light. Including Francis Ford Coppola who employed him after. People who have supported two actual pedos. See the can of worms your kneejerk reaction opens?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 30, 2018 22:35:43 GMT
People are pissed off over at Twitter because of their response.
Granted it's Twitter and people usually are pissed off about everything, but still.
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Post by charzhino on Jul 30, 2018 23:07:20 GMT
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Post by darkpast on Jul 31, 2018 1:19:55 GMT
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