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Post by HorrorMetal on Aug 21, 2018 20:22:21 GMT
Son of Dracula, 1943 (more accurate to say opinion is completely split on this—it tends to be a love-it-or-hate-it kind of movie, mostly because Chaney is lackluster as the vampire and the plotting rather makes him a dupe. But the atmosphere’s spot-on and the acting’s above-average.) Son of Frankenstein, 1939 (the spookiest of all the Uni Frankensteins, even if not the best [that’d be Bride, which is not really a horror film at all but, rather, a black comedy]. While James Whale, who helmed Frankenstein and Bride, was one of the greatest of all directors, the underrated Rowland V. Lee, who helmed Son, actually made a genuine horror film, with the Monster as a fairy-tale-esque giant or ogre, used by his conniving “friend,” Béla Lugosi’s loathsome Ygor. And how can you not love a movie with this delightful bit of Transylvaniana—“when the house is filled with dread, place the beds at head to head”?) Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man, 1943 (slicker and sillier than any of the other Unis, but also atmospheric, fast-paced, and tons of fun. Yes, this is probably the one that, James Whale notwithstanding, changed monster flicks from trying-to-be-spooky to trying-to-be-fun, but no need to judge it on the basis of its progeny. I far prefer this one to the by-the-numbers Ghost of Frankenstein.) Scars of Dracula, 1970 (cheap and cheap-looking, yet somehow far superior to the [relatively] better-mounted Horror of Dracula, Hammer’s most celebrated horror flick. Dracula actually gets a castle with bats here, Christopher Lee actually gets dialogue and is suitably bloodthirsty, and the movie doesn’t plod along, the bane of most Hammer horrors.) The Evil of Frankenstein, 1964 (Hammer goes Universal! While the Monster him[it?]self is unimpressive, everything else is good, especially a lovely flashback to Baron Frankenstein’s first creation. The Baron himself is more sympathetic than in most Hammer Frankensteins, but Cushing gets some great, scenery-chewing scenes. And the Castle gets blown up at the end—just like Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man! Whoo-hoo!) Halloween III, 1982 (which is, of course, getting its day in the sun, so it may end up going from underpraised to overpraised. I like it a lot, especially in the way it doesn’t continue the Michael Myers story. And I love the fact that the plot is actually connected to Hallowe’en and Samhain, the origins of the holiday, the lack of which is my biggest criticism of the original.) Those are all very underrated for sure but I wouldn't say that they're hated. I didn't know anyone hated Son of Frankenstein or Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman, I thought those were both well regarded by the horror community. I love them both, myself. I do agree that the entries on this list are all movies that deserve more credit.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Aug 21, 2018 20:44:25 GMT
Friday the 13th Part V: A New Beginning (1985) - Jason not being the killer is the one and only problem, otherwise it's awesome. One of the most entertaining entries in the series by far!
Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan (1989) - Not enough of it takes place in the city and Jason teleports, those are literally the only two criticisms I ever hear.
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (1993) - I used to hate this movie but it's really grown on me. It has the best gore, best kills, best nudity, and it was quite refreshing to see a new premise after the same thing had been done over and over again. Plus Jason, what little we see of him, looks incredible. Sure it's stupid and filled with way too many silly and convoluted plot points, but it's a fun guilty pleasure that isn't as bad as most people say.
Child's Play 3 (1991) - One of the weaker Chucky movies, sure, but this one has some of my favorite Chucky one-liners and some great kills as well. Plus I always liked Justin Whalin as Andy, just not as much as Alex Vincent. The amusement park finale is great too.
Seed of Chucky (2004) - This is my least favorite Chucky movie but I still like it a lot. I don't care that it took a more comedic approach because at that point Chucky wasn't really scary anymore. There's a lot of things that don't make sense about this movie though and the Hollywood setting could have been milked more.
Pet Sematary II (1992) - Not nearly as good or as scary as the first, this is a fun movie with great characters and a cruel mean-spirited but comedic tone that I really enjoy. Plus Clancy Brown was awesome.
Wrong Turn 5 (2012) - This is a bad movie, I agree, but the Halloween setting and a highly entertaining Doug Bradley more than make up for it. It's my third favorite after the first two. I don't know what people were expecting from this.
I'll think of more later. Also, I never thought of Psycho III as being mostly hated, quite the opposite actually. I've seen quite a bit of praise for that movie here lately, with some even saying it's better than the first two, which is odd. I love that movie too but it usually seems to be well regarded amongst the horror community. Now Psycho IV and the remake on the other hand...
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Aug 22, 2018 11:06:08 GMT
Now Psycho IV and the remake on the other hand... Psycho IV is definitely a hated sequel I enjoy. Loved the back story with Norman and Olivia Hussey as Norma gave me many mixed...feelings. Whenever I watch the first three, I have to watch this one as well. Not a classic, but damn solid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 6:49:29 GMT
Child's Play 3 Leprechaun 2 and 3 Hlloween: The Curse of Michael Myers Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan I liked all of those movies but would you really say 'Leprechaun 2 and 3' were hated outside of people who didn't like any of the Leprechaun movies? Most Leprechaun fans I know loved 2 and 3 and even liked 4 but hated 'Leprechaun in the Hood', 'Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood' and 'Leprechaun Origins.' Personally I enjoyed 2 and 3 more than the first movie and the actress who played Tammy in 'Leprechaun 3' was rather nice and I don't know why we didn't see her in other movies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 7:03:56 GMT
House II: The Second Story (1988) A Return to Salem’s Lot (1987) Amityville 3-D (1983) Maybe not love, but I do like; Return of the Living Dead Part II (1988) Halloween II (2009) Both I didn’t care for at first, but over time they’ve grown me. Some others; The Final Destination (2009) Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation 2004 Dracula II: Ascension 2003 An American Werewolf in Paris 1997 From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money 1999 Jaws 3D 1983 I like a lot of those too. The 'House' franchise is very underrated and I had a really difficult time tracking down all the movies on DVD especially 'House 3' (which just goes by 'The Horror Show' at most sites) and 'House 4' but I enjoyed all of them. I first discovered the 'House' movies at one of my local video shops and they had 'House 1 and 2' on VHS but I didn't know there were more movies until years later and did you know there was a fifth movie in 2008? It had Michael Madsen and it was different than the others but I thought it was okay and I wished I had bought it when it first came out 'cause I haven't seen it anywhere now. 'Return of the Living Dead 2' is a good Horror movie too and most Horror fans I know liked the first three movies but hated 4 and 5 and I am hoping the remake brings the series back to being as good as the older movies 'cause 4 and 5 were nothing like the first three movies and were just cash ins on the name.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 7:11:54 GMT
American Psycho 2. Much like other studio cash ins I heard this movie was originally written as a separate movie under the name 'All American Girl' but the studio forced them to put the 'American Psycho' name on it and add some part with Patrick Bateman at the start of it to connect it on to the original 'American Psycho.' I think if they didn't use the 'American Psycho' name it would have been far more popular. It is by far one of Mila Kunis' sexiest and funniest roles and I loved the character of Rachael Newman and also loved the soundtrack which had Bif Naked, The Dirtmitts and Tsar on it.
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Post by hardball on Aug 25, 2018 9:03:13 GMT
Omen 3 Seed of Chucky Bride of Chucky Haloween III Amityville II From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money Exorcist II Jason Takes Manhattan (it's my favorite Friday the 13th film)
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Post by James on Aug 26, 2018 13:06:11 GMT
Child's Play 3 Leprechaun 2 and 3 Hlloween: The Curse of Michael Myers Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan I liked all of those movies but would you really say 'Leprechaun 2 and 3' were hated outside of people who didn't like any of the Leprechaun movies? Most Leprechaun fans I know loved 2 and 3 and even liked 4 but hated 'Leprechaun in the Hood', 'Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood' and 'Leprechaun Origins.' Personally I enjoyed 2 and 3 more than the first movie and the actress who played Tammy in 'Leprechaun 3' was rather nice and I don't know why we didn't see her in other movies. I guess it's just most people hate all the Leprechaun films, hence why I think 2 and 3 are underrated and are actually pretty good sequels. 3 is my favourite. I'm not really too fond of 4-6, though. They're just guilty pleasures at best. But yeah, Origins sucked. Also, I agree Tammy from Leprechaun 3 was stunning. Too bad her career didn't take off that well.
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Post by simest on Aug 26, 2018 14:11:59 GMT
I quite enjoy SINGLE WHITE FEMALE 2 - THE PSYCHOPATH.
If we stretch things to class it as Horror it might qualify here as I can't imagine it's very popular with the masses!
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Post by kingkoopa on Aug 27, 2018 20:39:34 GMT
One I haven't seen mentioned yet...
"Jason X"
It knew exactly what it was and what it was doing. It was an absurd amount of fun. I like my horror villains to mature and change (loved "New Nightmare"), but keeping it simple and fun was always the strength I thought the "Friday the 13th" series had.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 7:25:17 GMT
I guess it's just most people hate all the Leprechaun films, hence why I think 2 and 3 are underrated and are actually pretty good sequels. 3 is my favourite. I'm not really too fond of 4-6, though. They're just guilty pleasures at best. But yeah, Origins sucked. Also, I agree Tammy from Leprechaun 3 was stunning. Too bad her career didn't take off that well. Yeah. 'Origins' did suck and I think it was a mistake to replace Warwick Davis with Hornswoggle but I think Warwick Davis no longer wants to be in the movies 'cause he isn't going to be in 'Leprechaun Returns' either and that is coming out next year. One thing about a lot of these franchises that are still going or coming back with new actors it is going to be hard for them to recapture the success and popularity of the older movies especially when an actor is so well associated with a character and Robert Englund not returning as Freddy Kreuger hurt the 'Nightmare On Elm Street' remake and I think not having Warwick Davis is going to affect 'Leprechaun' going forward too. There are a number of actors like the one who played Tammy whose careers don't take off and I often find it weird 'cause they are better actors than some of the ones that do and go on to have heaps of roles in movies and TV shows. Lee Armstrong wasn't an astounding actress but I feel she was good as Tammy and there are far worse actors I have seen.
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Post by James on Aug 30, 2018 10:46:54 GMT
I guess it's just most people hate all the Leprechaun films, hence why I think 2 and 3 are underrated and are actually pretty good sequels. 3 is my favourite. I'm not really too fond of 4-6, though. They're just guilty pleasures at best. But yeah, Origins sucked. Also, I agree Tammy from Leprechaun 3 was stunning. Too bad her career didn't take off that well. Yeah. 'Origins' did suck and I think it was a mistake to replace Warwick Davis with Hornswoggle but I think Warwick Davis no longer wants to be in the movies 'cause he isn't going to be in 'Leprechaun Returns' either and that is coming out next year. One thing about a lot of these franchises that are still going or coming back with new actors it is going to be hard for them to recapture the success and popularity of the older movies especially when an actor is so well associated with a character and Robert Englund not returning as Freddy Kreuger hurt the 'Nightmare On Elm Street' remake and I think not having Warwick Davis is going to affect 'Leprechaun' going forward too. There are a number of actors like the one who played Tammy whose careers don't take off and I often find it weird 'cause they are better actors than some of the ones that do and go on to have heaps of roles in movies and TV shows. Lee Armstrong wasn't an astounding actress but I feel she was good as Tammy and there are far worse actors I have seen.I agree with this completely. Not sure how Leprechaun Returns will turn out, but I hope for the best.
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Post by egon1982 on Aug 31, 2018 11:53:37 GMT
Child's Play 3 Leprechaun 2 and 3 Hlloween: The Curse of Michael Myers Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan I thought Jason Takes Manhattan and Halloween Curse (even in producer's cut) were disappointing, i was never a fan of Leprechaun franchise. Child's Play 3 to me IS THE LAST Child's Play film worth a damn and should had ended! the other films after the trilogy are just spin-offs starring the Chucky character and i thought Bride was mediocre and the others were crap as this franchise needs to just die.
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Post by James on Aug 31, 2018 13:24:06 GMT
Child's Play 3 Leprechaun 2 and 3 Hlloween: The Curse of Michael Myers Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan I thought Jason Takes Manhattan and Halloween Curse (even in producer's cut) were disappointing, i was never a fan of Leprechaun franchise. Child's Play 3 to me IS THE LAST Child's Play film worth a damn and should had ended! the other films after the trilogy are just spin-offs starring the Chucky character and i thought Bride was mediocre and the others were crap as this franchise needs to just die. I digress. Bride and Seed were disappointments, but I thought Curse was an excellent return-to-form (and the best of the series) and Cult was pretty good. But to each their own.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Aug 31, 2018 15:36:39 GMT
I don't especially like it, but I don't think Hellraiser 4 is nearly as bad as its reputation. Yes, it's a popular horror franchise in space, but it's not like the whole thing is set there, and the concurrent timelines are at least a somewhat interesting idea that expands on the mythology. I don't remember every detail of it, but it's got some ideas rather than just using the space setting as a gimmick, I think. I know it damning with faint praise, but it's clearly the best horror-franchise-moved-to-space movie.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 1, 2018 12:42:01 GMT
One I haven't seen mentioned yet... "Jason X" It knew exactly what it was and what it was doing. It was an absurd amount of fun. I like my horror villains to mature and change (loved "New Nightmare"), but keeping it simple and fun was always the strength I thought the "Friday the 13th" series had. Precisely my feelings. I blind bought Jason X when it came out and paid the 2002 DVD price for it ($25) and didn't regret a single penny.
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Post by egon1982 on Sept 1, 2018 23:09:01 GMT
I don't especially like it, but I don't think Hellraiser 4 is nearly as bad as its reputation. Yes, it's a popular horror franchise in space, but it's not like the whole thing is set there, and the concurrent timelines are at least a somewhat interesting idea that expands on the mythology. I don't remember every detail of it, but it's got some ideas rather than just using the space setting as a gimmick, I think. I know it damning with faint praise, but it's clearly the best horror-franchise-moved-to-space movie. Yes it's not even the worst one.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 2, 2018 15:03:37 GMT
I don't especially like it, but I don't think Hellraiser 4 is nearly as bad as its reputation. Yes, it's a popular horror franchise in space, but it's not like the whole thing is set there, and the concurrent timelines are at least a somewhat interesting idea that expands on the mythology. I don't remember every detail of it, but it's got some ideas rather than just using the space setting as a gimmick, I think. I know it damning with faint praise, but it's clearly the best horror-franchise-moved-to-space movie. Bloodline (4) is the last watchable Hellraiser, as far as I'm concerned. That, and it's a marked improvement over Hell on Earth (3).
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Post by masterofallgoons on Sept 3, 2018 13:27:13 GMT
I don't especially like it, but I don't think Hellraiser 4 is nearly as bad as its reputation. Yes, it's a popular horror franchise in space, but it's not like the whole thing is set there, and the concurrent timelines are at least a somewhat interesting idea that expands on the mythology. I don't remember every detail of it, but it's got some ideas rather than just using the space setting as a gimmick, I think. I know it damning with faint praise, but it's clearly the best horror-franchise-moved-to-space movie. Bloodline (4) is the last watchable Hellraiser, as far as I'm concerned. That, and it's a marked improvement over Hell on Earth (3). I actually think 5 is perfectly decent. I know it was an unrelated script that was reformatted to fit within the Hellraiser idea, and it does feel like that... but, it's also a well directed and reasonably well scripted procedural/psychological horror. It's not great, but considering the background it's better than one might expect.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 3, 2018 14:03:45 GMT
Bloodline (4) is the last watchable Hellraiser, as far as I'm concerned. That, and it's a marked improvement over Hell on Earth (3). I actually think 5 is perfectly decent. I know it was an unrelated script that was reformatted to fit within the Hellraiser idea, and it does feel like that... but, it's also a well directed and reasonably well scripted procedural/psychological horror. It's not great, but considering the background it's better than one might expect. I realize Inferno has its fans, but I've watched it three times now and it just does nothing for me. Which says a lot, given how offensive the later sequels get. I did kind of like Hellseeker a bit, but that might've just been Ashley Laurence's return talking.
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