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Post by faustus5 on Sept 1, 2018 12:20:19 GMT
The most hilarious thing about this post is that fuckwits like Cody want to turn the West into exactly the kind of theocracy you find in the Middle East. . .just under a different religion, Christianity. But fundamentalist Christians like Cody are so mind-numbingly stupid that they fight Muslims instead of joining forces with them based on values they clearly share.
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 1, 2018 12:38:45 GMT
The most hilarious thing about this post is that fuckwits like Cody want to turn the West into exactly the kind of theocracy you find in the Middle East. . .just under a different religion, Christianity. But fundamentalist Christians like Cody are so mind-numbingly stupid that they fight Muslims instead of joining forces with them based on values they clearly share. Yes because Christian theocracy consists of murdering apostates, throwing homosexuals off buildings, amputating body parts of thieves, crucifying mischief makers, making FGM compulsory, beating disobedient wives, punishing female rape victims for adultery, prohibiting alcohol, owning sex slaves, and banning free speech etc. Don’t talk about shit you clearly know nothing about you spastic. You remind of that other dickhead Oncomingstorm. Same arrogant obnoxious character and no where near as smart as you seem to think you are.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 1, 2018 12:52:24 GMT
Yes because Christian theocracy consists of murdering apostates, throwing homosexuals off buildings, amputating body parts of thieves, crucifying mischief makers, making FGM compulsory, beating disobedient wives, punishing female rape victims for adultery, prohibiting alcohol, owning sex slaves, and banning free speech etc. Until the rise of secularism put you pieces of shit into your proper places, variations on all this are exactly what you people did and what you will do if allowed to succeed. But don't worry, you will never succeed. You've been defeated, and this will be permanent.
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 1, 2018 12:57:23 GMT
Yes because Christian theocracy consists of murdering apostates, throwing homosexuals off buildings, amputating body parts of thieves, crucifying mischief makers, making FGM compulsory, beating disobedient wives, punishing female rape victims for adultery, prohibiting alcohol, owning sex slaves, and banning free speech etc. Until the rise of secularism put you pieces of shit into your proper places, variations on all this are exactly what you people did and what you will do if allowed to succeed. But don't worry, you will never succeed. You've been defeated, and this will be permanent. Hey retard, I thought I told you to stop talking about stuff you know nothing about. You made a stupid post without thinking and got bitch slapped back in your place. Only you deranged leftist imbeciles can turn a thread about an exMuslim critical of Islam into rant about Christianity. You’re a classic example of type of morons the writer in the OP is talking about.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 1, 2018 14:00:37 GMT
Hey retard, I thought I told you to stop talking about stuff you know nothing about. You made a stupid post without thinking and got bitch slapped back in your place. Only you deranged leftist imbeciles can turn a thread about an exMuslim critical of Islam into rant about Christianity. You’re a classic example of type of morons the writer in the OP is talking about. The burning of witches and scholars like Giordarno Bruno at the stake. The genocide of the Cathars. Homosexuality punishable by death in an African nation whose politicians are being influenced by American Christians getting their way in another country without secular protections.
All of this is what you jackasses get away with when you have the levers of power under your control.
I don't have to worry about Muslims doing any of this garbage in the West, because the West knows how to control you pieces of shit--and yes, I'm grouping you with them because you Christians and Muslims are equally dangerous when allowed to get what you want. All of the things you hate about secularism are the same things non-Western Muslims hate about secularism, because secularism puts you under control and your values are the same as theirs. And you are so fucking stupid you fail to see how much you and they are one and the same. The world would be a better place if both groups were put on an island where you could massacre each other and we'd be free of your nonsense.
Are some liberals guilty of giving Muslim assholes a pass doing horrible shit when if Christians did the same they'd have a fit? Absolutely. But it isn't Muslims trying to get creationism taught in Western public schools. It isn't Muslims pushing against women's rights in the West. There are no Muslim politicians in American pushing for theocracy.
Nope, all of that stupid shit is coming from Christians. So that's where the focus of smart liberals will always be: you people are going to be in our crosshairs, not members of a religion that isn't trying to undo Western progress. When the Muslims who share your regressive, Neanderthalic values start pulling this bullshit in the West, they will also be in our crosshairs.
Deal with it.
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 1, 2018 14:11:21 GMT
Hey retard, I thought I told you to stop talking about stuff you know nothing about. You made a stupid post without thinking and got bitch slapped back in your place. Only you deranged leftist imbeciles can turn a thread about an exMuslim critical of Islam into rant about Christianity. You’re a classic example of type of morons the writer in the OP is talking about. The burning of witches and scholars like Giordarno Bruno at the stake. The genocide of the Cathars. Homosexuality punishable by death in an African nation whose politicians are being influenced by American Christians getting their way in another country without secular protections.
All of this is what you jackasses get away with when you have the levers of power under your control.
I don't have to worry about Muslims doing any of this garbage in the West, because the West knows how to control you pieces of shit--and yes, I'm grouping you with them because you Christians and Muslims are equally dangerous when allowed to get what you want. All of the things you hate about secularism are the same things non-Western Muslims hate about secularism, because secularism puts you under control and your values are the same as theirs. And you are so fucking stupid you fail to see how much you and they are one and the same. The world would be a better place if both groups were put on an island where you could massacre each other and we'd be free of your nonsense.
Are some liberals guilty of giving Muslim assholes a pass doing horrible shit when if Christians did the same they'd have a fit? Absolutely. But it isn't Muslims trying to get creationism taught in Western public schools. It isn't Muslims pushing against women's rights in the West. There are no Muslim politicians in American pushing for theocracy.
Nope, all of that stupid shit is coming from Christians. So that's where the focus of smart liberals will always be: you people are going to be in our crosshairs, not members of a religion that isn't trying to undo Western progress. When the Muslims who share your regressive, Neanderthalic values start pulling this bullshit in the West, they will also be in our crosshairs.
Deal with it.
You made a demonstrably false claim and got called out on your stupidity. You then rushed off and scoured the internet looking examples of “Christian oppression” you could use, having to go back as far as medieval times and beyond for anything you could pass off as equivalences. Stop embarrassing yourself and at least go and do some research on sharia law before mouthing off like the hysterical leftist nerd that you are, then you can come back and talk to me. Until then STFU. Christ’s law and Sharia law couldn’t be further opposed.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 1, 2018 14:20:26 GMT
While I do not dispute the claims of Rafizadeh about what happened where he lived, I believe it is important to note that Jews and Muslims get along rather well (as perhaps faustus5 expects) almost everywhere else. I strongly suspect the difficulties are territorial rather than religious. When Europe had "religious" wars it was also more likely about how much land the aristocrats or rulers controlled than any religious idea. The disappointing thing about Donald Trump is that he seems more concerned with how much control he has over territory than any religious idea.
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Post by phludowin on Sept 1, 2018 14:22:40 GMT
The burning of witches and scholars like Giordarno Bruno at the stake. The genocide of the Cathars. Homosexuality punishable by death in an African nation whose politicians are being influenced by American Christians getting their way in another country without secular protections. All of this is what you jackasses get away with when you have the levers of power under your control. All of them correct. I don't have to worry about Muslims doing any of this garbage in the West, because the West knows how to control you pieces of shit--and yes, I'm grouping you with them because you Christians and Muslims are equally dangerous when allowed to get what you want. All of the things you hate about secularism are the same things non-Western Muslims hate about secularism, because secularism puts you under control and your values are the same as theirs. And you are so fucking stupid you fail to see how much you and they are one and the same. The world would be a better place if both groups were put on an island where you could massacre each other and we'd be free of your nonsense. Here, I am not so sure. I believe that women are treated worse in modern Saudi Arabia or Muslim-dominated Sub-Saharan Africa than they were in pre-enlightenment Christianity. I could be wrong of course; but since enlightenment did happen, Islamic countries have no excuse for denying women, homosexuals and apostates human rights. Are some liberals guilty of giving Muslim assholes a pass doing horrible shit when if Christians did the same they'd have a fit? Absolutely. Unfortunately you are right; and that was also the point of the writer mentioned in the OP. But it isn't Muslims trying to get creationism taught in Western public schools. It isn't Muslims pushing against women's rights in the West. There are no Muslim politicians in American pushing for theocracy. Nope, all of that stupid shit is coming from Christians. So that's where the focus of smart liberals will always be: you people are going to be in our crosshairs, not members of a religion that isn't trying to undo Western progress. When the Muslims who share your regressive, Neanderthalic values start pulling this bullshit in the West, they will also be in our crosshairs. Deal with it. I hope you're right. What would help more than talks about human rights would be not to do business with countries who violate human rights. But this is not going to happen. And since I also buy products that use resources from countries with questionable human right records, I am not really in a position to complain about it.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 1, 2018 15:33:55 GMT
Meanwhile, you support a serial liar and adulterer who puts kids in cages because their parents crossed over an invisible line.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 17:58:02 GMT
The most hilarious thing about this post is that fuckwits like Cody want to turn the West into exactly the kind of theocracy you find in the Middle East. . .just under a different religion, Christianity. But fundamentalist Christians like Cody are so mind-numbingly stupid that they fight Muslims instead of joining forces with them based on values they clearly share. Yes because Christian theocracy consists of murdering apostates, throwing homosexuals off buildings, amputating body parts of thieves, crucifying mischief makers, making FGM compulsory, beating disobedient wives, punishing female rape victims for adultery, prohibiting alcohol, owning sex slaves, and banning free speech etc. You realise that the majority of those things have been practiced in the name of christianity, right?
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 1, 2018 19:34:37 GMT
You made a demonstrably false claim and got called out on your stupidity. You then rushed off and scoured the internet looking examples of “Christian oppression” you could use, having to go back as far as medieval times and beyond for anything you could pass off as equivalences. I made a demonstrably true claim and then backed it up with specific examples. And no, shit for brains, I didn't need to do any research. Unlike you, I know my history.
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 1, 2018 20:16:56 GMT
You made a demonstrably false claim and got called out on your stupidity. You then rushed off and scoured the internet looking examples of “Christian oppression” you could use, having to go back as far as medieval times and beyond for anything you could pass off as equivalences. I made a demonstrably true claim and then backed it up with specific examples. And no, shit for brains, I didn't need to do any research. Unlike you, I know my history. “The most hilarious thing about this post is that fuckwits like Cody want to turn the West into exactly the kind of theocracy you find in the Middle East. . .just under a different religion, Christianity” ^This was a demonstrably false claim. A Christian theocracy would look absolutely nothing like a sharia law ruled country we see in the Middle East today and you know it. You’re either an ignoramus or you’re being disingenuous. You only have to look at the Vatican City. Do we see any beheadings? Crucifixions? terrorism? Polygamy? Honour killings? Death for apostasy & homosexuals? Women being prohibited from marrying non-Christians? Non-Christians being forced to pay protection money? Codified slavery? Permissible lying? These are all part of Islamic law. Yes Christians like any other group have done objectionable things over the course of history but those actions are usually in violation to Christian teachings not because of them.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 2, 2018 15:52:16 GMT
A Christian theocracy would look absolutely nothing like a sharia law ruled country we see in the Middle East today and you know it. We've already seen what happens under a Christian theocracy, and contrary to your bottomless ignorance of history, it pretty much was like what you get under Muslim domination. I gave examples to back it up. You are so easy to wipe the floor with.
I should point out that there are several popular Christian fundamentalists out there, including some who have the ears of politicians you would like, who openly advocate for the execution of homosexuals and other barbaric notions, straight out of what you seen in the Middle East. Muslim theologians can and do say exactly the same thing about the evils done by Muslims in the name of Islam. You people are all the same, the only difference being that in the West, all religions have had leashes put on them.
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 2, 2018 16:26:49 GMT
those blood-thirsty types
those blood thirsty types are all alike worshiping gods on trykes wheeling power from their divine light.
for when self righteousness is the fire burning bright everyone is fodder magically turning white.
sjw 09/02/18 inspired at this very moment in time by all those heart-felt sentiments strewn upon yet another cutting room floor.
from the 'blasphemy series' of poems
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 2, 2018 18:03:58 GMT
A Christian theocracy would look absolutely nothing like a sharia law ruled country we see in the Middle East today and you know it. We've already seen what happens under a Christian theocracy, and contrary to your bottomless ignorance of history, it pretty much was like what you get under Muslim domination. I gave examples to back it up. You are so easy to wipe the floor with.
I should point out that there are several popular Christian fundamentalists out there, including some who have the ears of politicians you would like, who openly advocate for the execution of homosexuals and other barbaric notions, straight out of what you seen in the Middle East. Muslim theologians can and do say exactly the same thing about the evils done by Muslims in the name of Islam. You people are all the same, the only difference being that in the West, all religions have had leashes put on them.
LOL I think you’ve made enough of a fool of yourself. You’re dismissed, Faustus.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 18:23:04 GMT
mediabiasfactcheck.com/gatestone-institute/Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: The Gatestone Institute, formerly Stonegate Institute, is a “not-for-profit international policy council and think tank based in New York City” with a specialization in strategy and defense issues. Gatestone Institute is anti-Islamic, pro-Christian and Jewish/Israel. Many of the articles will link back to sites that don’t say what they claim or make the same rash judgments, without proof. Example: Obama tells Christians to not protest in Egypt then has no quotes or sources saying he said that. (M. Allen 12/30/2016) Also, Cody is racist and Jesus hates him
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 2, 2018 18:32:05 GMT
I note with great satisfaction and no surprise that you can't refute or rebut a single thing I posted. It's as if you come to this forum just to have various people hand you your dumb ass every day.
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 2, 2018 19:02:19 GMT
faustus5 Dude, you’ve essentially refuted yourself. You claimed that Christians today want to ”turn the West into exactly the kind of theocracy you find in the Middle East”. I provided an example of an actual Christian theocracy today(Vatican City) and it bares no resemblance to the Islamic theocracy we find in the Middle East. You realised you made a stupid statement and were left to resort to falling back on the old “well Christians have done some bad shit throughout history too” and anyway “some Christians are nasty to homosexuals and reject common descent evolution today too so there!!!!” Oh well that certainly hasn’t happened on this thread, so better luck next time aye.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Sept 2, 2018 19:52:09 GMT
faustus5 Dude, you’ve essentially refuted yourself. You claimed that Christians today want to ”turn the West into exactly the kind of theocracy you find in the Middle East”. I provided an example of an actual Christian theocracy today(Vatican City) and it bares no resemblance to the Islamic theocracy we find in the Middle East. You realised you made a stupid statement and were left to resort to falling back on the old “well Christians have done some bad shit throughout history too” and anyway “some Christians are nasty to homosexuals and reject common descent evolution today too so there!!!!” Oh well that certainly hasn’t happened on this thread, so better luck next time aye. I'll admit a Christian theocracy probably isn't as bad as a Muslim one, but I don't think comparing a small, soverign state populated by a bunch of rich, powerful elites to a country full of crushing poverty and lackluster education (particularly ones that get bombed on a regular basis) is a very fair comparison.
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Post by Cody™ on Sept 2, 2018 20:23:25 GMT
faustus5 Dude, you’ve essentially refuted yourself. You claimed that Christians today want to ”turn the West into exactly the kind of theocracy you find in the Middle East”. I provided an example of an actual Christian theocracy today(Vatican City) and it bares no resemblance to the Islamic theocracy we find in the Middle East. You realised you made a stupid statement and were left to resort to falling back on the old “well Christians have done some bad shit throughout history too” and anyway “some Christians are nasty to homosexuals and reject common descent evolution today too so there!!!!” Oh well that certainly hasn’t happened on this thread, so better luck next time aye. I'll admit a Christian theocracy probably isn't as bad as a Muslim one, but I don't think comparing a small, soverign state populated by a bunch of rich, powerful elites to a country full of crushing poverty and lackluster education (particularly ones that get bombed on a regular basis) is a very fair comparison. Crushing poverty and lackluster education or not you will still see beheadings, public lashings, executing homosexuals and apostates, FGM, punishing female rape victims for failing to produce 4 male witnesses, owning sex slaves, charging non-Muslims the Jizya tax and so on in any Islamic country ruled by sharia simply because this is what the religion teaches and they take that shit quite seriously over there. You will not see any of the above in any Christian theocracy because that is not what Christianity teaches.
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