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Post by Jayman on Sept 7, 2017 0:13:24 GMT
I'm not really seeing the cheesy aspect of it. I really like the acting and the writing.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 7, 2017 3:38:28 GMT
I watch the show and I like it very much. There a re few things on the show that bother the heck out of me but that is a discussion for another thread maybe. BTW. I think the entire "Arrowverse" should have it's own section in the popular series and fan favorites area of this board. I suggested that to the Admins shortly after I registered for these boards. They agreed at the time, but I haven't seen the new section yet. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 7, 2017 14:04:53 GMT
"these CW shows are EXTREMELY cheesy. It can be hard to watch sometimes because the writing and acting is so cringe worthy." Uh.... they're superhero shows so they're supposed to be cheesy. As for the acting being cringe worthy, that's very debatable. Some actors and actresses from those shows have delivered some really good performances in certain episodes. Of course, none that it is even half as good as Viola Davis, Vera Farmiga's, Freddie Smith's, Tatiana Maslany's, Jessica Lange's or Sarah Paulson's, but still quite good. It is EXTREMELY cheesy. Really no debate there. These CW shows are like soaps most of the time. Everyone can become a super hero no matter what. This is especially terrible in Arrow where everyone in the city knows Oliver is Green Arrow and every fried he has ever had is no a super hero. The acting is always mostly terrible. There has never really been a standout. Look at shows like Jessica Jones and Daredevil on Netflix. Sure, they have their faults too, but are taken much more seriously than these CW shows. The acting and the writing is FAR better. |
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Post by fantoma on Sept 7, 2017 16:36:33 GMT
"these CW shows are EXTREMELY cheesy. It can be hard to watch sometimes because the writing and acting is so cringe worthy." Uh.... they're superhero shows so they're supposed to be cheesy. As for the acting being cringe worthy, that's very debatable. Some actors and actresses from those shows have delivered some really good performances in certain episodes. Of course, none that it is even half as good as Viola Davis, Vera Farmiga's, Freddie Smith's, Tatiana Maslany's, Jessica Lange's or Sarah Paulson's, but still quite good. It is EXTREMELY cheesy. Really no debate there. These CW shows are like soaps most of the time. Everyone can become a super hero no matter what. This is especially terrible in Arrow where everyone in the city knows Oliver is Green Arrow and every fried he has ever had is no a super hero. The acting is always mostly terrible. There has never really been a standout. Look at shows like Jessica Jones and Daredevil on Netflix. Sure, they have their faults too, but are taken much more seriously than these CW shows. The acting and the writing is FAR better. Nice try but major epic failure. It is NOT "EXTREMELY" cheesy. That's only in your own perception. They do have a certain amount of cheesiness but that's normal be since they are superhero shows. Not everyone in those shows can become a superhero no matter what. And while a lot of people know Oliver is Green Arrow, most of the citizens of Starlight City don't know his actual identity. And the acting is most certainly not always mostly terrible. Once again, that's only your perception. And there has been a few stand outs. As for the similar shows on Netflix being taken "much more" seriously, that is largely debatable. Same thing goes for the acting and writing supposedly being "FAR" better. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 7, 2017 16:43:19 GMT
It is EXTREMELY cheesy. Really no debate there. These CW shows are like soaps most of the time. Everyone can become a super hero no matter what. This is especially terrible in Arrow where everyone in the city knows Oliver is Green Arrow and every fried he has ever had is no a super hero. The acting is always mostly terrible. There has never really been a standout. Look at shows like Jessica Jones and Daredevil on Netflix. Sure, they have their faults too, but are taken much more seriously than these CW shows. The acting and the writing is FAR better. Nice try but major epic failure. It is NOT "EXTREMELY" cheesy. That's only in your own perception. They do have a certain amount of cheesiness but that's normal be since they are superhero shows. Not everyone in those shows can become a superhero no matter what. And while a lot of people know Oliver is Green Arrow, most of the citizens of Starlight City don't know his actual identity. And the acting is most certainly not always mostly terrible. Once again, that's only your perception. And there has been a few stand outs. As for the similar shows on Netflix being taken "much more" seriously, that is largely debatable. Same thing goes for the acting and writing supposedly being "FAR" better. By saying epic failure you proved my point. You are most likely a teenager. There is no debate here. Daredevil especially is far better acted and written than any CW show. That is a fact. Sure, some people think a movie like Suicide Squad is better than The Godfather, but it is a fact that the Godfather is a far better movie technically. It has better acting and writing, even if you do not prefer it. Some people think Nirvana is better than Dream Theater. Fair enough. You might enjoy their music more, but Jon Petrucci blows Kurt Cobain away on guitar regardless. The CW shows ARE cheesy. Seriously. Arrow is downright unwatchable now it has gotten so cheesy. |
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Post by fantoma on Sept 7, 2017 19:10:01 GMT
Nice try but major epic failure. It is NOT "EXTREMELY" cheesy. That's only in your own perception. They do have a certain amount of cheesiness but that's normal be since they are superhero shows. Not everyone in those shows can become a superhero no matter what. And while a lot of people know Oliver is Green Arrow, most of the citizens of Starlight City don't know his actual identity. And the acting is most certainly not always mostly terrible. Once again, that's only your perception. And there has been a few stand outs. As for the similar shows on Netflix being taken "much more" seriously, that is largely debatable. Same thing goes for the acting and writing supposedly being "FAR" better. By saying epic failure you proved my point. You are most likely a teenager. There is no debate here. Daredevil especially is far better acted and written than any CW show. That is a fact. Sure, some people think a movie like Suicide Squad is better than The Godfather, but it is a fact that the Godfather is a far better movie technically. It has better acting and writing, even if you do not prefer it. Some people think Nirvana is better than Dream Theater. Fair enough. You might enjoy their music more, but Jon Petrucci blows Kurt Cobain away on guitar regardless. The CW shows ARE cheesy. Seriously. Arrow is downright unwatchable now it has gotten so cheesy. LMAO!! I have not proved anything since you never really had a point. Also, I'm quite far from being a teenager so stop being so desperate. You're just grasping at straws. There is indeed a debate here. Daredevil supposedly being "far" better acted and written than any CW show is not a fact but only your own personal opinion. It is NOT a fact at all. Your other 2 comparisons (Suicide Squad vs The Godfather, and Nirvana vs Dream Theater) are simply pathetic, ridiculous, absurd, way off base and highly irrelevant. All superhero shows have a degree of cheesiness, kiddo. Which part of that do you not understand. And just because YOU think Arrow is "downright unwatchable" now does not mean that it's a fact or that anyone agrees with you. In the end, it's a matter of personal preferences, tastes and choices. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 7, 2017 19:13:21 GMT
By saying epic failure you proved my point. You are most likely a teenager. There is no debate here. Daredevil especially is far better acted and written than any CW show. That is a fact. Sure, some people think a movie like Suicide Squad is better than The Godfather, but it is a fact that the Godfather is a far better movie technically. It has better acting and writing, even if you do not prefer it. Some people think Nirvana is better than Dream Theater. Fair enough. You might enjoy their music more, but Jon Petrucci blows Kurt Cobain away on guitar regardless. The CW shows ARE cheesy. Seriously. Arrow is downright unwatchable now it has gotten so cheesy. LMAO!! I have not proved anything since you never really had a point. Also, I'm quite far from being a teenager so stop being so desperate. You're just grasping at straws. There is indeed a debate here. Daredevil supposedly being "far" better acted and written than any CW show is not a fact but only your own personal opinion. It is NOT a fact at all. Your other 2 comparisons (Suicide Squad vs The Godfather, and Nirvana vs Dream Theater) are simply pathetic, ridiculous, absurd, way off base and highly irrelevant. All superhero shows have a degree of cheesiness, kiddo. Which part of that do you not understand. And just because YOU think Arrow is "downright unwatchable" now does not mean that it's a fact or that anyone agrees with you. In the end, it's a matter of personal preferences, tastes and choices. I apologize for calling you a teenager, but I find it hard to believe that any actual adult would find these CW shows to be good. |
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Post by fantoma on Sept 7, 2017 20:08:00 GMT
LMAO!! I have not proved anything since you never really had a point. Also, I'm quite far from being a teenager so stop being so desperate. You're just grasping at straws. There is indeed a debate here. Daredevil supposedly being "far" better acted and written than any CW show is not a fact but only your own personal opinion. It is NOT a fact at all. Your other 2 comparisons (Suicide Squad vs The Godfather, and Nirvana vs Dream Theater) are simply pathetic, ridiculous, absurd, way off base and highly irrelevant. All superhero shows have a degree of cheesiness, kiddo. Which part of that do you not understand. And just because YOU think Arrow is "downright unwatchable" now does not mean that it's a fact or that anyone agrees with you. In the end, it's a matter of personal preferences, tastes and choices. I apologize for calling you a teenager, but I find it hard to believe that any actual adult would find these CW shows to be good. What you find hard to believe is irrelevant. The majority of viewers for Supergirl, The Flash, Arrow and other CW shows are actually grown adults. Stop being so obsessive with your hatred for the CW shows and learn to accept the fact that people are allowed to have different tastes than yours and to enjoy shows that you don't. To put it simply, to each their own. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 8, 2017 12:19:20 GMT
I apologize for calling you a teenager, but I find it hard to believe that any actual adult would find these CW shows to be good. What you find hard to believe is irrelevant. The majority of viewers for Supergirl, The Flash, Arrow and other CW shows are actually grown adults. Stop being so obsessive with your hatred for the CW shows and learn to accept the fact that people are allowed to have different tastes than yours and to enjoy shows that you don't. To put it simply, to each their own. I am fine with that. I actually watch these shows and enjoy them for the most part, but let's not act like this is really quality TV. I just got done watching Narcos season 3 and then started watching Super Girl from where I left off. There is a STARK difference in quality, no matter what you prefer. |
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Post by fantoma on Sept 8, 2017 12:29:53 GMT
What you find hard to believe is irrelevant. The majority of viewers for Supergirl, The Flash, Arrow and other CW shows are actually grown adults. Stop being so obsessive with your hatred for the CW shows and learn to accept the fact that people are allowed to have different tastes than yours and to enjoy shows that you don't. To put it simply, to each their own. I am fine with that. I actually watch these shows and enjoy them for the most part, but let's not act like this is really quality TV. I just got done watching Narcos season 3 and then started watching Super Girl from where I left off. There is a STARK difference in quality, no matter what you prefer. If you were truly fine with that, you'd stop being so obsessive about it, and you'd stop being such a Negative Nancy & a Debbie Downer. Just because it's not quality tv to YOU, does not mean it cannot be quality tv for others. The alleged "STARK" difference in quality with other shows is not a fact but a matter of personal preferences and of personal perception. Just because YOU perceive something as being better than something else does not mean that it is. You're entitled to your opinion but your opinion is just that: an opinion. It's not a fact. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 13:24:03 GMT
"these CW shows are EXTREMELY cheesy. It can be hard to watch sometimes because the writing and acting is so cringe worthy." Uh.... they're superhero shows so they're supposed to be cheesy. As for the acting being cringe worthy, that's very debatable. Some actors and actresses from those shows have delivered some really good performances in certain episodes. Of course, none that it is even half as good as Viola Davis, Vera Farmiga's, Freddie Smith's, Tatiana Maslany's, Jessica Lange's or Sarah Paulson's, but still quite good. It is EXTREMELY cheesy. Really no debate there. These CW shows are like soaps most of the time. Everyone can become a super hero no matter what. This is especially terrible in Arrow where everyone in the city knows Oliver is Green Arrow and every fried he has ever had is no a super hero. The acting is always mostly terrible. There has never really been a standout. Look at shows like Jessica Jones and Daredevil on Netflix. Sure, they have their faults too, but are taken much more seriously than these CW shows. The acting and the writing is FAR better. Well sure there are some cheesy accept. But i don't agree that it's extremely cheesy. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 8, 2017 13:25:28 GMT
I am fine with that. I actually watch these shows and enjoy them for the most part, but let's not act like this is really quality TV. I just got done watching Narcos season 3 and then started watching Super Girl from where I left off. There is a STARK difference in quality, no matter what you prefer. If you were truly fine with that, you'd stop being so obsessive about it, and you'd stop being such a Negative Nancy & a Debbie Downer. Just because it's not quality tv to YOU, does not mean it cannot be quality tv for others. The alleged "STARK" difference in quality with other shows is not a fact but a matter of personal preferences and of personal perception. Just because YOU perceive something as being better than something else does not mean that it is. You're entitled to your opinion but your opinion is just that: an opinion. It's not a fact. Narcos IS a much higher quality program. It is easily better acted and written. This is a fact. |
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Post by fantoma on Sept 8, 2017 13:32:08 GMT
If you were truly fine with that, you'd stop being so obsessive about it, and you'd stop being such a Negative Nancy & a Debbie Downer. Just because it's not quality tv to YOU, does not mean it cannot be quality tv for others. The alleged "STARK" difference in quality with other shows is not a fact but a matter of personal preferences and of personal perception. Just because YOU perceive something as being better than something else does not mean that it is. You're entitled to your opinion but your opinion is just that: an opinion. It's not a fact. Narcos IS a much higher quality program. It is easily better acted and written. This is a fact. Are you really that obtuse or simply too narrow-minded to comprehend that your opinion is NOT a fact? Seriously, kiddo, get a grip! Just because YOU think something is a "much higher" quality program does not make it an actual fact. Same thing goes for supposedly being better acted and written. Those are NOT facts at all. They're just your own personal opinions and points of views. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 13:33:21 GMT
Yes. I watch it. It is nothing like the majority of Supergirl (Kara Zor-El and Linda Danvers) comic books which I am a big fan of and had Supergirl as an edgy and aggressive character whereas Kara is more like a female version of Clark Kent in this show but I still watch it and I am looking forward to FINALLY getting a big 'Supergirl' villain (Reign) in the show and seeing Power Girl and the Legion which have both been talked about for Season 3.  I love the show because it reminds me of the comics I read in the 60s. It is so positive & so cool.
I feel the writers wanted to make a 'Superman' TV show but Warner Bros wouldn't allow them so they made a 'Superman' show with 'Supergirl' instead. I also don't think they read any Supergirl comic books before they created the show much like the writers of the awful adaption of 'Birds of Prey' who admitted to it after the show was cancelled which is why we only have characters like Reign, Power Girl and the Legion turning up this season. I personally liked Laura Vandervoort's version more. It was much more like the comic book version and even had her win the Ms Sweet Corn Pageant and working as a model like she did in a number of the comic books and it was a shame the spin off from 'Smallville' never happened 'cause they lead Laura to believe it would and she has said in interviews she gave up leading roles for other shows while she was waiting for it to be made. 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 13:35:02 GMT
Hey. I noticed that and it was definitely deliberately put in there by the writers 'cause of Calista being married to Harrison Ford.  I wonder if they could get him to appear in the show. I am a fan of Cat Grant and Calista in particular too and was wondering if you have ever seen 'Ally McBeal' and 'Brothers and Sisters?' If not you should check both of them out. 
That would be awesome of they could get him as a guest star. Do you think Calista will be in it full time this coming season?
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 8, 2017 15:43:18 GMT
Narcos IS a much higher quality program. It is easily better acted and written. This is a fact. Are you really that obtuse or simply too narrow-minded to comprehend that your opinion is NOT a fact? Seriously, kiddo, get a grip! Just because YOU think something is a "much higher" quality program does not make it an actual fact. Same thing goes for supposedly being better acted and written. Those are NOT facts at all. They're just your own personal opinions and points of views. And the opinions of anyone with any taste at all. Super Girl is better acted and written than Narcos guys. I cannot make this stuff up. It's hilarious. Go play with your Monster High dolls. |
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Post by fantoma on Sept 8, 2017 16:50:06 GMT
Are you really that obtuse or simply too narrow-minded to comprehend that your opinion is NOT a fact? Seriously, kiddo, get a grip! Just because YOU think something is a "much higher" quality program does not make it an actual fact. Same thing goes for supposedly being better acted and written. Those are NOT facts at all. They're just your own personal opinions and points of views. And the opinions of anyone with any taste at all. Super Girl is better acted and written than Narcos guys. I cannot make this stuff up. It's hilarious. Go play with your Monster High dolls. LMAO!!! You poor thing.... you're trying way too hard, you're getting desperate and you're grasping at straws. What's wrong, kiddo? You want to get the last word in? Get over it and stop being so obsessive, rude & annoying. People can still have taste and not share your opinion. Stop being so self-centered. People are allowed to disagree with you and to have different tastes and preferences than yours. What's truly hilarious is your obsession with this subject and your inability to comprehend that everyone is entitled to their own preferences and your inability to comprehend that your opinions are not facts. Get some psychiatric help, you seriously need it. P.S. It's only an avatar picture so your pathetic attempt at an attack is vain, futile, useless & ineffective. Grow up a little, kiddo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 17:10:53 GMT
Soon i will start season 2 of Supergirl. I do hope its better than Season 1. Even if i likede season 1 overall, i do think it a bit hit and miss so to speak.
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Post by merh on Sept 8, 2017 17:55:06 GMT
I love the show because it reminds me of the comics I read in the 60s. It is so positive & so cool.
I feel the writers wanted to make a 'Superman' TV show but Warner Bros wouldn't allow them so they made a 'Superman' show with 'Supergirl' instead. I also don't think they read any Supergirl comic books before they created the show much like the writers of the awful adaption of 'Birds of Prey' who admitted to it after the show was cancelled which is why we only have characters like Reign, Power Girl and the Legion turning up this season. I personally liked Laura Vandervoort's version more. It was much more like the comic book version and even had her win the Ms Sweet Corn Pageant and working as a model like she did in a number of the comic books and it was a shame the spin off from 'Smallville' never happened 'cause they lead Laura to believe it would and she has said in interviews she gave up leading roles for other shows while she was waiting for it to be made.
Maybe the 69? But I swear earlier... Didn't she run as backup? I remember stories involving her when I was reading Spectre in the 66-68 timeframe. I remember Legion. My sister liked Duplicate Girl who had been Triplicate Girl. This puts it in the 1966 frame Hard to say on horror stuff. Marvel's just barely embraced magic. They've been doing Thor as science, but there is magic there as I believe we'll see in Ragnarok. Thor mentioning Earth having magic now is like "now I can use magic" So horror villains in Supergirl likely falls in there for now. We've barely seen Constantine interact with the Arrowverse, forget Spectre, though he was in Constantine |
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Post by merh on Sept 8, 2017 21:11:07 GMT
That would be awesome of they could get him as a guest star. Do you think Calista will be in it full time this coming season?
No. I sadly don't think she is going to return full time but from what I have been reading it does sound like she is going to appear in more episodes than she did last season so we should see Cat more. Wasn't the issue the move to Canada? S1 was in LA wasnt it so close to home? |
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