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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 2, 2018 13:43:22 GMT
If you’re just going to disagree, what’s the point of this thread?
And many adult horror movies also have humor, in many cases more than the children’s movies listed. Would you also consider those not to be horror?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 2, 2018 13:46:26 GMT
Some more animated ones: Coraline, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Corpse Bride, Monster House, Paranorman. Some of the Disney Channel movies, too: Smart House, Don’t Look Under the Bed, Tower of Terror. 2015’s Goosebumps? Speaking of which, that whole TV show. A later series based on Stine’s books, The Haunting Hour, had better production-values and was more horrific (while still being for kids), but without Goosebumps’ nostalgia and charm. And Are You Afraid of the Dark?, of course, for my money the best ‘90s kids’ horror show. Oh! and The Watcher in the Woods (’80). Was The Blob made for kids? Goosebumps (2015) is half comedy though. Considering what the OP asked, it's a bit ironic that on imdb it lists adventure and comedy, but NOT horror. Ehh. A lot of movies we consider horror have some comedy mixed in. I’d even go so far as to say “most.” Still, OK, I’m willing to cede the point with Goosebumps, but I think all the others fit the OP’s criteria (even if he doesn’t).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 13:51:40 GMT
Beetlejuice Hocus pocus The Haunted Mansion Krampus gremlins
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 2, 2018 14:12:25 GMT
Beetlejuice Hocus pocus The Haunted Mansion Krampus gremlins So you (and I) would think, but the OP apparently doesn’t think they count if they have humor in them.
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Post by Vits on Nov 2, 2018 16:33:21 GMT
If you’re just going to disagree, what’s the point of this thread? And many adult horror movies also have humor, in many cases more than the children’s movies listed. Would you also consider those not to be horror? 1) The point of a thread is to automatically agree with every reply? 2) Have I accidentally implied that if a horror movie is combined with other genres then it doesn't count as part of the genre? No; I'm just looking for specific kinds of movies and, so far, none of the examples written are what like that. Technically, that means all of you are indirectly agreeing with me about this group of movies being very small or even non-existent. Beetlejuice Hocus pocus The Haunted Mansion Krampus gremlins So you (and I) would think, but the OP apparently doesn’t think they count if they have humor in them. I can answer for myself, thank you very much. I haven't seen HOCUS POCUS nor KRAMPUS. The others are horror comedies I'm afraid. Actually, I think BEETLEJUICE wasn't originally targeted at children. And I'd argue that the comedy in THE HAUNTED MANSION is more predominant than the horror.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 2, 2018 16:54:31 GMT
No. That’s factually untrue, Vits, which is why I’m having such a problem with you. I apologize for the sarcasm, but what other tack could I take if you refuse to understand what I’m writing? 1. A horror comedy is still a horror. Do you consider Sleepy Hollow horror? I guess you don’t; it’s got more comedy than Krampus, The Watcher in the Woods, Something Wicked This Way Comes, and Coraline, for example. So, even if these have a bit of comedy, they’re still “horror movies for children.” 2. You’re looking for horror movies without any humor at all? I think that’s non-existent. 3. Your condescension reaches new heights when you write that we’re all secretly (indirectly) agreeing with you, even though we’re all doing exactly the opposite. So are we all lying or stupid? Or insane? I can’t tell. There have been tons of horror movies for children listed here, many of them not overly humorous. But you refuse to believe us, even when you admit you haven’t seen the movies for yourself. Huh? You see how irritating this can be?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 2, 2018 17:12:06 GMT
Vits It isn’t as dark or depressing like most horror films though. Poltergeist has some of THE most frightening scenes ever in it. Horror does not need to be "dark and depressing" … it often just has to be frightening in ways that seem to be real-life possible. The tree The face sloughing off into the sink The cute little girl being grabbed into a nether world. Rotting corpses. NOT A KIDS MOVIE unless you actively want to find out if your kid will have movie induced nightmares. I still think of that sink scene on occasion and shudder !
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 2, 2018 18:15:22 GMT
What other genre is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island? Vits
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Post by biker1 on Nov 2, 2018 18:20:29 GMT
Anthonyrocks saw the exorcist at the age of 2, and thought it was a comedy.
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Post by Vits on Nov 2, 2018 20:14:38 GMT
1. A horror comedy is still a horror. 2. You’re looking for horror movies without any humor at all? 3. you write that we’re all secretly (indirectly) agreeing with you, even though we’re all doing exactly the opposite. 1) I don't know why you have a hard time understanding my posts in this thread. I like to think I write clearly. If I don't, I'm sorry. I'll try again: I'm looking for horror movies that were originally intended for children and that aren't mixed with other genres. If a movie doesn't meet these criteria, it's still a horror movie ("straight-up" is just a way of saying "sole horror). 2) I never said that. "For children" was the key part. 3) I have no idea where you got this from. Please show me. What other genre is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island? VitsAll the movies and shows in the SCOOBY DOO franchise are mixes of comedy and mystery. Some have horror, but it's always secondary.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 2, 2018 20:32:16 GMT
No. That’s factually untrue, Vits , which is why I’m having such a problem with you. I apologize for the sarcasm, but what other tack could I take if you refuse to understand what I’m writing? 1. A horror comedy is still a horror. Do you consider Sleepy Hollow horror? I guess you don’t; it’s got more comedy than Krampus, The Watcher in the Woods, Something Wicked This Way Comes, and Coraline, for example. So, even if these have a bit of comedy, they’re still “horror movies for children.” 2. You’re looking for horror movies without any humor at all? I think that’s non-existent. 3. Your condescension reaches new heights when you write that we’re all secretly (indirectly) agreeing with you, even though we’re all doing exactly the opposite. So are we all lying or stupid? Or insane? I can’t tell. There have been tons of horror movies for children listed here, many of them not overly humorous. But you refuse to believe us, even when you admit you haven’t seen the movies for yourself. Huh? You see how irritating this can be? I am going to disagree with you here. The are many horror movies that do not have much of comedy in them. The OP was specifically asking for kids movies that are straight horror that aren't horror-comedy. As far as Goosebumps goes at least, I consider that a comedy first and foremost. Sleepy Hallow has more comedy than most horror movies and I still don't consider it a horror comedy. I am going to assume that OP was excluding animated movies. I think he is asking for a kids horror movie that has as little comedy as Halloween for example, which doesn't have much comedy in it at all. I'd say Something Wicked This Way Comes is the closest to what the OP is asking.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 2, 2018 20:38:12 GMT
1. A horror comedy is still a horror. 2. You’re looking for horror movies without any humor at all? 3. you write that we’re all secretly (indirectly) agreeing with you, even though we’re all doing exactly the opposite. 1) I don't know why you have a hard time understanding my posts in this thread. I like to think I write clearly. If I don't, I'm sorry. I'll try again: I'm looking for horror movies that were originally intended for children and that aren't mixed with other genres. If a movie doesn't meet these criteria, it's still a horror movie ("straight-up" is just a way of saying "sole horror). 2) I never said that. "For children" was the key part. 3) I have no idea where you got this from. Please show me. What other genre is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island? Vits All the movies and shows in the SCOOBY DOO franchise are mixes of comedy and mystery. Some have horror, but it's always secondary. I have come to the conclusion that you are asking for something that almost doesn't exist in the world of movies made specifically for children. You didn't make that clear I don't think. You should have said "movies made specifically for children." This is why people have been naming movies like Poltergeist, because even though children aren't the target audience they are still appropriate for children of a certain age. There is a reason the kind of horror movies you are asking for aren't really made for children and it is because the studios know that parents don't want their kids having nightmares. You should have been more specific about comedy imo. How much humor is acceptable for what you are asking? I'd say The Witches is more of a horror movie than a comedy for example.
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Post by James on Nov 2, 2018 22:45:03 GMT
Vits It isn’t as dark or depressing like most horror films though. Poltergeist has some of THE most frightening scenes ever in it. Horror does not need to be "dark and depressing" … it often just has to be frightening in ways that seem to be real-life possible. The tree The face sloughing off into the sink The cute little girl being grabbed into a nether world. Rotting corpses. NOT A KIDS MOVIE unless you actively want to find out if your kid will have movie induced nightmares. I still think of that sink scene on occasion and shudder ! I certainly agree with the corpses and especially mirror scene. Though I think the whole thing with Carol Anne in the nether world always seemed a bit fantasy-esque to me, so I don’t find it to be that scary.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 2, 2018 22:59:27 GMT
I am going to disagree with you here. The are many horror movies that do not have much of comedy in them.
The OP was specifically asking for kids movies that are straight horror that aren't horror-comedy. As far as Goosebumps goes at least, I consider that a comedy first and foremost. Sleepy Hallow has more comedy than most horror movies and I still don't consider it a horror comedy. I am going to assume that OP was excluding animated movies. I think he is asking for a kids horror movie that has as little comedy as Halloween for example, which doesn't have much comedy in it at all. I'd say Something Wicked This Way Comes is the closest to what the OP is asking. I must respectfully disagree with you as well, but thank you for engaging with the points I raised. I’d be interested in knowing which horror movies don’t have any humor in them. Even The Silence of the Lambs has a very strong vein of gallows humor to it. I think that’s the rub. What is “straight horror”? If even something as serious as Lambs (or Psycho, or Halloween) has humor in it, is it no longer “straight horror”? How distilled does it have to be? I’m not sure why the OP should exclude animated movies; they’re just as valid as live-action movies, I think. I wouldn’t consider Sleepy Hollow a horror-comedy either, but you see the problem: someone could. So, if someone could, then why isn’t a kids’ movie that the OP considers a horror-comedy be considered horror? You see where the OP’s thinking leads us? The OP probably wouldn’t consider Something Wicked This Way Comes “kids’ horror” either, unfortunately, as it’s not really “just for kids.” Like Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn, by which Bradbury was inspired, Something Wicked has children as its main characters but is not a children’s story, if that makes sense. It also has humor in it. I think The Witches would count, but, again, the OP may exclude it because it has humor in it. Unlike Something Wicked, the book on which it was based was meant for children. (I’m not sure if the movie was, though, to be honest.) Same with Coraline, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Corpse Bride, Monster House, Paranorman, and The Watcher in the Woods—and Ichabod and Mr. Toad, and Darby O’Gill and the Little People’s banshee, etc., etc. The OP seems to have the preordained conclusion that he is on a snipe-hunt (which raises the question, as I asked him, of why one is hunting a snipe if one knows all about snipes), and none of us here seems to be able to convince him that there is a real-life snipe.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 2, 2018 23:33:00 GMT
I am going to disagree with you here. The are many horror movies that do not have much of comedy in them.
The OP was specifically asking for kids movies that are straight horror that aren't horror-comedy. As far as Goosebumps goes at least, I consider that a comedy first and foremost. Sleepy Hallow has more comedy than most horror movies and I still don't consider it a horror comedy. I am going to assume that OP was excluding animated movies. I think he is asking for a kids horror movie that has as little comedy as Halloween for example, which doesn't have much comedy in it at all. I'd say Something Wicked This Way Comes is the closest to what the OP is asking. I must respectfully disagree with you as well, but thank you for engaging with the points I raised. I’d be interested in knowing which horror movies don’t have any humor in them. Even The Silence of the Lambs has a very strong vein of gallows humor to it. I think that’s the rub. What is “straight horror”? If even something as serious as Lambs (or Psycho, or Halloween) has humor in it, is it no longer “straight horror”? How distilled does it have to be? I’m not sure why the OP should exclude animated movies; they’re just as valid as live-action movies, I think. I wouldn’t consider Sleepy Hollow a horror-comedy either, but you see the problem: someone could. So, if someone could, then why isn’t a kids’ movie that the OP considers a horror-comedy be considered horror? You see where the OP’s thinking leads us? The OP probably wouldn’t consider Something Wicked This Way Comes “kids’ horror” either, unfortunately, as it’s not really “just for kids.” Like Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn, by which Bradbury was inspired, Something Wicked has children as its main characters but is not a children’s story, if that makes sense. It also has humor in it. I think The Witches would count, but, again, the OP may exclude it because it has humor in it. Unlike Something Wicked, the book on which it was based was meant for children. (I’m not sure if the movie was, though, to be honest.) Same with Coraline, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Corpse Bride, Monster House, Paranorman, and The Watcher in the Woods—and Ichabod and Mr. Toad, and Darby O’Gill and the Little People’s banshee, etc., etc. The OP seems to have the preordained conclusion that he is on a snipe-hunt (which raises the question, as I asked him, of why one is hunting a snipe if one knows all about snipes), and none of us here seems to be able to convince him that there is a real-life snipe. The Silence of the Lambs has subtle humor that some people might not even recognize as humor. The Silence of the Lambs is my favorite movie and I have never seen much overt humor in it, besides Hannibal Lecter's dark sense of humor and he isn't in the movie all that much. Also, the style of humor when it is in the movie adds to the creepiness of the movie for me. I don't think that is the kind of humor the OP is referring to. OP did say he doesn't mean movies with NO comedy in them (that is rare for almost any genre). He means horror movies that most people wouldn't classify as horror-comedy. Poltergeist, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Exorcist etc. are not humorous movies to most people. Maybe you have a different opinion, but that opinion would be in the minority I'd think. The humor of the demon in The Exorcist isn't meant to be funny imo, it is meant to be disturbing. I get annoyed when people say they find that movie funny. The level of humor in Sleepy Hollow and some of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels might be pushing what the OP means. I don't know. As for the snipe hunt, I think the OP is really trying to find a children's horror movie that is light on the humor. I myself was curious after seeing OP ask the question and thus far I have not been able to think of any children's horror movies that don't have quite a bit of humor in them, besides animated movies. What came to mind right away though was that Goosebumps TV show, which is much more horror than most horror movies made for kids. Are You Afraid of the Dark? came to mind too.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 2, 2018 23:51:22 GMT
1. A horror comedy is still a horror. 2. You’re looking for horror movies without any humor at all? 3. you write that we’re all secretly (indirectly) agreeing with you, even though we’re all doing exactly the opposite. 1) I don't know why you have a hard time understanding my posts in this thread. I like to think I write clearly. If I don't, I'm sorry. I'll try again: I'm looking for horror movies that were originally intended for children and that aren't mixed with other genres. If a movie doesn't meet these criteria, it's still a horror movie ("straight-up" is just a way of saying "sole horror). 2) I never said that. "For children" was the key part. 3) I have no idea where you got this from. Please show me. What other genre is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island? VitsAll the movies and shows in the SCOOBY DOO franchise are mixes of comedy and mystery. Some have horror, but it's always secondary. I said in my post I didnt feel that way about Zombie Island, but I guess anything you say goes as fact.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 2, 2018 23:56:25 GMT
1) I don't know why you have a hard time understanding my posts in this thread. I like to think I write clearly. If I don't, I'm sorry. I'll try again: I'm looking for horror movies that were originally intended for children and that aren't mixed with other genres. If a movie doesn't meet these criteria, it's still a horror movie ("straight-up" is just a way of saying "sole horror). 2) I never said that. "For children" was the key part. 3) I have no idea where you got this from. Please show me.All the movies and shows in the SCOOBY DOO franchise are mixes of comedy and mystery. Some have horror, but it's always secondary. I said in my post I didnt feel that way about Zombie Island, but I guess anything you say goes as fact. I have never seen Zombie Island but every episode of Scooby-Doo I have seen has a lot of humor imo. Largely due to the very funny personalities of Shaggy and Scooby and their reactions to the situations they find themselves in. Quote by you. What other genre is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island?
According to imdb it is adventure/comedy. Horror isn't even listed as a genre.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 3, 2018 1:29:31 GMT
The Hole (2009) is a horror movie aimed at young teens.
The Gate (1987) is also aimed at young teens.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 3, 2018 1:38:21 GMT
I said in my post I didnt feel that way about Zombie Island, but I guess anything you say goes as fact. I have never seen Zombie Island but every episode of Scooby-Doo I have seen has a lot of humor imo. Largely due to the very funny personalities of Shaggy and Scooby and their reactions to the situations they find themselves in. Quote by you. What other genre is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island?
According to imdb it is adventure/comedy. Horror isn't even listed as a genre. Okay, well check out Zombie Island and get back to me. I granted that we get comic relief from Shaggy and Scooby in it, though even their antics are toned down. According to IMDb, Jaws and The Sixth Sense aren't horror, either. Make of that what you will.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 3, 2018 1:45:43 GMT
I have never seen Zombie Island but every episode of Scooby-Doo I have seen has a lot of humor imo. Largely due to the very funny personalities of Shaggy and Scooby and their reactions to the situations they find themselves in. Quote by you. What other genre is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island?
According to imdb it is adventure/comedy. Horror isn't even listed as a genre. Okay, well check out Zombie Island and get back to me. I granted that we get comic relief from Shaggy and Scooby in it, though even their antics are toned down. According to IMDb, Jaws and The Sixth Sense aren't horror, either. Make of that what you will. Yeah, but they don't list comedy. I've been watching Zombie Island for about 20 minutes so far and it is very humorous, just like the TV show. In fact I am quite confused how you could not consider Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island a comedy. Scooby-Doo and Shaggy eating all the confiscated food and putting on 50 lbs., Scooby jumping into Shaggy's arms etc. the movie is full of sight gags. There is a joke practically every 2 minutes so far.
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