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Post by Skaathar on Dec 22, 2018 16:11:27 GMT
So basically you like perfect heroes. Gotcha. Everyone likes perfect heroes. Nobody wants to see a hero who's a selfish asshole or a coward or too incompetent to get the job done. Just look at James Bond. 50 years, 26 movies. People like watching James Bond movies not because Bond is flawed but because Bond is perfect. Bond is smart, resourceful, loyal to Queen and country, can't be bribed, can't be intimidated, knows how to bungee jump, scuba dive, sky dive, drive a tank, fly a plane, fly a helicopter, even fly a space shuttle. Bond can do whatever is needed to get the job done and is perfect at everything he does. And that's why everyone likes to watch a hero like James Bond. So you're saying people love stereotypical heroes who never have any challenges. Gotcha. Btw, Bond is a very flawed individual.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 22, 2018 23:51:30 GMT
Meh, hated the screenplay. Way too episodic and repetitive. Like a TV show. The leads get all separated in teams and then disappeared for entire acts. No character development. Also the fucking cliffhanger had no impact knowing that everybody comes back.
Great for Marvel fans, which I am not.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 0:01:10 GMT
Meh, hated the screenplay. Way too episodic and repetitive. Like a TV show. The leads get all separated in teams and then disappeared for entire acts. No character development. Also the fucking cliffhanger had no impact knowing that everybody comes back. Great for Marvel fans, which I am not. How was there a cliffhanger, retard. It's a standalone movie and within the context of this film, they're not coming back.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 23, 2018 0:23:05 GMT
Meh, hated the screenplay. Way too episodic and repetitive. Like a TV show. The leads get all separated in teams and then disappeared for entire acts. No character development. Also the fucking cliffhanger had no impact knowing that everybody comes back. Great for Marvel fans, which I am not. How was there a cliffhanger, retard. It's a standalone movie and within the context of this film, they're not coming back. IW isn't a standalone movie. IW is half a movie.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 0:32:02 GMT
How was there a cliffhanger, retard. It's a standalone movie and within the context of this film, they're not coming back. IW isn't a standalone movie. IW is half a movie. No. It's a movie about a man (alien?) trying to gain power so he can become a God and the movie ends with him succeeding. I'm sure Endgame will be about something else. "You will never be a God." - Loki
Some time later
"Oh God" - Captain America
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Post by poutinep on Dec 23, 2018 0:47:13 GMT
IW isn't a standalone movie. IW is half a movie. No. It's a movie a man (alien?) trying to gain power so he can become a God and the movie ends with him succeeding. I'm sure Endgame will be about something else. "You will never be a God." - Loki
Some time later
"Oh God" - Captain AmericaThat line by Loki was great. It's probably the most insulting thing you could say to Thanos.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 23, 2018 0:49:44 GMT
How was there a cliffhanger, retard. It's a standalone movie and within the context of this film, they're not coming back. IW isn't a standalone movie. IW is half a movie. No, it's a full standalone movie. Only an idiot would claim otherwise.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 1:02:45 GMT
No. It's a movie a man (alien?) trying to gain power so he can become a God and the movie ends with him succeeding. I'm sure Endgame will be about something else. "You will never be a God." - Loki
Some time later
"Oh God" - Captain AmericaThat line by Loki was great. It's probably the most insulting thing you could say to Thanos. Yep. No way was Thanos' ego going to let him live after that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 2:06:55 GMT
I think it's a pretty fantastic, well paced expertly executed project. Not to delve deep, but I think it's a near entirely surface-level movie and there's not a thing wrong with that. It brings the entertainment in spades.
I agree with the body count at the end. When the dust settled, the original Avengers were all in tact. Separate, but in tact. Survival of the phase 1. I can't put my finger on why, but I was disappointed that Black Widow and Banner lived. It's not that I wanted her to die, but it would be a significant death. With Bruce, it has more to do so with somebody of vast importance dying since Iron Man and Captain America lived. I'd thought that Captain America was going to die, and then found myself ecstatic to witness Iron Man die only to have his life spared. It's not that I want to see them die, but their deaths would be cataclysmic in importance. So I was expecting Captain America to die, he didn't; then got excited for Iron Man; he didn't, then expected Black Widow or Bruce to die to be that significant death that hurts the known Avengers. They didn't. The death that probably surprised me the most is Star Lord, which is a combination of being the de factor main of the Guardians and being Chris Pratt.
I liked that Rocket and Nebula lived. Aside from hoping at least one of the original phase 1 Avengers would die (Rogers) I liked the jumbled assortment of survivors.
I also think that the Guardians took a step back in their maturity. A time or two, I thought Star Lord's level of maturity at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was swapped for Thor's. They've both had good journeys of maturation from being juvenile and hard-headed and I felt like Thor's carried over better. No bones over him pulling the trigger on Gamora, but I just thought he was better. He's still Chris Pratt and he's still Star Lord, so it's fine, but it'd be nice if his sense of responsibility on display were more like Thor's.
Strong showing for Gamora. She had a great death, although I also thought she was kind of optimistic about not being thrown off the cliff in two seconds. Who else was Thanos going to sacrifice, himself? No use in Red Skull; he seemed to do well in the art of hovering.
I had a bit of a laugh when I saw him too. It was fine, but I feel like I had no reason to think he was still alive anywhere. I thought he died 10+ movies ago. I wonder who else was back there. Doctor Octopus from Spiderman 2 maybe?
I also thought it was hilarious seeing Peter Dinklage play a giant dwarf. At times the CGI was a bit tacky, but leave it to Peter Dinklage to act against type and play a giant.
Natasha and Banner was weird for me in Age of Ultron. I was blown away that two actors who I think quite highly didn't have chemistry together. At least I didn't think they did. I thought I saw it for a moment in Natasha's eyes when she greeted Bruce, but he didn't even look like he remembered. Their "relationship" was done best in Thor Ragnarok for me; archived footage of Natasha onscreen in the jet calming Hulk back into Bruce was sweet.
That's more/less it for me. I loved it; Infinity War rocked. Also, I would have wiled out if Hulk himself busted out of the Hulk Buster armor. That sounds like the best scene I never knew I wanted.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 2:20:51 GMT
An interesting video that I thought may interest some visitors here.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 23, 2018 3:45:41 GMT
Literally three reasons why the movie worked so well. The movie doesn't work at all. Nobody wants to see a superhero movie with no heroes and only selfish assholes and cowards. Only Avatar, Titantic, and TFA have reached $2B. IW won't be joining that exclusive club. No one else does wrong like DC-Fan!!!
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 4:17:33 GMT
The movie doesn't work at all. Nobody wants to see a superhero movie with no heroes and only selfish assholes and cowards. Only Avatar, Titantic, and TFA have reached $2B. IW won't be joining that exclusive club. No one else does wrong like DC-Fan!!! summers8 can give him a run for his money at times.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 7:59:42 GMT
Meh, hated the screenplay. Way too episodic and repetitive. Like a TV show. The leads get all separated in teams and then disappeared for entire acts. No character development. Also the fucking cliffhanger had no impact knowing that everybody comes back. Great for Marvel fans, which I am not. How was there a cliffhanger, retard. It's a standalone movie and within the context of this film, they're not coming back. Sure. That's a way of seeing it, lassie. I don't see why'd you feel the need sign off with "retard".
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 8:02:42 GMT
How was there a cliffhanger, retard. It's a standalone movie and within the context of this film, they're not coming back. Sure. That's a way of seeing it, lassie. I don't see why'd you feel the need sign off with "retard".
And you never will, honey.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 23, 2018 8:02:42 GMT
So basically you like perfect heroes. Gotcha. Everyone likes perfect heroes. Nobody wants to see a hero who's a selfish asshole or a coward or too incompetent to get the job done. Just look at James Bond. 50 years, 26 movies. People like watching James Bond movies not because Bond is flawed but because Bond is perfect. Bond is smart, resourceful, loyal to Queen and country, can't be bribed, can't be intimidated, knows how to bungee jump, scuba dive, sky dive, drive a tank, fly a plane, fly a helicopter, even fly a space shuttle. Bond can do whatever is needed to get the job done and is perfect at everything he does. And that's why everyone likes to watch a hero like James Bond. Boy, it's a good thing you're not a writer, because you don't know how to write a protagonist.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 23, 2018 8:08:03 GMT
So basically you like perfect heroes. Gotcha. Everyone likes perfect heroes. Nobody wants to see a hero who's a selfish asshole or a coward or too incompetent to get the job done. Just look at James Bond. 50 years, 26 movies. People like watching James Bond movies not because Bond is flawed but because Bond is perfect. Bond is smart, resourceful, loyal to Queen and country, can't be bribed, can't be intimidated, knows how to bungee jump, scuba dive, sky dive, drive a tank, fly a plane, fly a helicopter, even fly a space shuttle. Bond can do whatever is needed to get the job done and is perfect at everything he does. And that's why everyone likes to watch a hero like James Bond. Wow, it's like you just came back here even more stupider. Nice job.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 8:09:33 GMT
IW isn't a standalone movie. IW is half a movie. No, it's a full standalone movie. Only an idiot would claim otherwise. I would be careful to call people idiots when you have such a incomprehensive grasp of terms. A standalone movie is a film that is not part of any franchise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standalone_filmAvengers 4 with it's cliffhanger ending and franchise affiliation and shared universe approach ticks all boxes of not being a standalone film by any measure or definition. And I am pretty sure in the latest Avenger 5 teaser the characters constantly mentioned events Avenger 4, did they not...
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 23, 2018 8:21:51 GMT
No, it's a full standalone movie. Only an idiot would claim otherwise. I would be careful to call people idiots when you have such a incomprehensive grasp of terms. A standalone movie is a film that is not part of any franchise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standalone_filmAvengers 4 with it's cliffhanger ending and franchise affiliation and shared universe approach ticks all boxes of not being a standalone film by any measure or definition. And I am pretty sure in the latest Avenger 5 teaser the characters constantly mentioned events Avenger 4, did they not... skaathar just got owned!
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 23, 2018 8:50:30 GMT
No, it's a full standalone movie. Only an idiot would claim otherwise. I would be careful to call people idiots when you have such a incomprehensive grasp of terms. A standalone movie is a film that is not part of any franchise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standalone_filmAvengers 4 with it's cliffhanger ending and franchise affiliation and shared universe approach ticks all boxes of not being a standalone film by any measure or definition. And I am pretty sure in the latest Avenger 5 teaser the characters constantly mentioned events Avenger 4, did they not... You really shouldn't jump in a conversation when you don't know the context. I used the term "standalone" to emphasize that IW was not half a movie as DC Fan stated but instead a full movie. I didn't mean that it wasn't part of any franchise or series. I'm using "standalone" as an adjective, using it to describe something that can stand in it's own and can function without assistance from something else. You're using "standalone film" as a compound noun to denote a movie that is not part of a franchise or series. Two different things. But fine, I'll admit that my usage of the word standalone could be misleading. I will change my term to a "complete" movie instead. Happy?
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 10:11:14 GMT
No, it's a full standalone movie. Only an idiot would claim otherwise. I would be careful to call people idiots when you have such a incomprehensive grasp of terms. A standalone movie is a film that is not part of any franchise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standalone_filmAvengers 4 with it's cliffhanger ending and franchise affiliation and shared universe approach ticks all boxes of not being a standalone film by any measure or definition. And I am pretty sure in the latest Avenger 5 teaser the characters constantly mentioned events Avenger 4, did they not... To general audiences, a standalone film is a movie where you don't need any supplementary material to understand fully. I'm sure most people don't feel like they need to see Jaws 2, 3 and 4 to fully grasp what was going on in the first one. Everything you need to understand Avengers: Infinity War is presented in Avengers: Infinity War.
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