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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 23, 2018 10:39:14 GMT
I would be careful to call people idiots when you have such a incomprehensive grasp of terms. A standalone movie is a film that is not part of any franchise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standalone_filmAvengers 4 with it's cliffhanger ending and franchise affiliation and shared universe approach ticks all boxes of not being a standalone film by any measure or definition. And I am pretty sure in the latest Avenger 5 teaser the characters constantly mentioned events Avenger 4, did they not... To general audiences, a standalone film is a movie where you don't need any supplementary material to understand fully. I'm sure most people don't feel like they need to see Jaws 2, 3 and 4 to fully grasp what was going on in the first one. Everything you need to understand Avengers: Infinity War is presented in Avengers: Infinity War. Fact is: It's an episodic movie ending on a cliffhanger. You need to watch the next one to understand all the unresolved plot points and how it ends to get the story completed ( Anticipatory Spoiler: the avenger guys re-assemble, the dusted folks all come back, the bad boy is defeated, the red robot will be repaired to make love to the little witch, Cap and 1 will hug it out, Hulk will be able to get an erection again etc). This is why the next one deals with the fallout and is called "Endgame". I personally was annoyed by the episodic nature (and script structure) but that is how most franchises do it, Hunger Games, Harry Potter etc. Marvel just follows suit, " Greed can be a great ally". And Avengers4 did not present all you need to know. I haven't seen all the films and for me this was an incoherent mess as if you started in the middle of a TV show. This also felt like a mini series, 4 episodes (Tony & Spider fight, Guardians&Thor fight, Cap & Panther fight etc) made into one movie. Just not for me. But to each his own, Lassie.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 11:10:26 GMT
To general audiences, a standalone film is a movie where you don't need any supplementary material to understand fully. I'm sure most people don't feel like they need to see Jaws 2, 3 and 4 to fully grasp what was going on in the first one. Everything you need to understand Avengers: Infinity War is presented in Avengers: Infinity War. Fact is: It's an episodic movie ending on a cliffhanger. You need to watch the next one to understand all the unresolved plot points and how it ends to get the story completed ( Anticipatory Spoiler: the avenger guys re-assemble, the dusted folks all come back, the bad boy is defeated, the red robot will be repaired to make love to the little witch, Cap and 1 will hug it out, Hulk will be able to get an erection again etc). This is why the next one deals with the fallout and is called "Endgame". I personally was annoyed by the episodic nature (and script structure) but that is how most franchises do it, Hunger Games, Harry Potter etc. Marvel just follows suit, " Greed can be a great ally". And Avengers4 did not present all you need to know. I haven't seen all the films and for me this was an incoherent mess as if you started in the middle of a TV show. This also felt like a mini series, 4 episodes (Tony & Spider fight, Guardians&Thor fight, Cap & Panther fight etc) made into one movie. Just not for me. But to each his own, Lassie. Yeah, but people with basic comprehension skills aren't going to feel like that, are they?
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 11:15:55 GMT
To general audiences, a standalone film is a movie where you don't need any supplementary material to understand fully. I'm sure most people don't feel like they need to see Jaws 2, 3 and 4 to fully grasp what was going on in the first one. Everything you need to understand Avengers: Infinity War is presented in Avengers: Infinity War. Fact is: It's an episodic movie ending on a cliffhanger. You need to watch the next one to understand all the unresolved plot points and how it ends to get the story completed ( Anticipatory Spoiler: the avenger guys re-assemble, the dusted folks all come back, the bad boy is defeated, the red robot will be repaired to make love to the little witch, Cap and 1 will hug it out, Hulk will be able to get an erection again etc). This is why the next one deals with the fallout and is called "Endgame". I personally was annoyed by the episodic nature (and script structure) but that is how most franchises do it, Hunger Games, Harry Potter etc. Marvel just follows suit, " Greed can be a great ally". And Avengers4 did not present all you need to know. I haven't seen all the films and for me this was an incoherent mess as if you started in the middle of a TV show. This also felt like a mini series, 4 episodes (Tony & Spider fight, Guardians&Thor fight, Cap & Panther fight etc) made into one movie. Just not for me. But to each his own, Lassie. Everything was resolved. The Avenger lost. Thanos won. The End! Did you consider the end of Rocky to be a cliffhanger?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Dec 23, 2018 19:17:47 GMT
I would be careful to call people idiots when you have such a incomprehensive grasp of terms. A standalone movie is a film that is not part of any franchise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standalone_filmAvengers 4 with it's cliffhanger ending and franchise affiliation and shared universe approach ticks all boxes of not being a standalone film by any measure or definition. And I am pretty sure in the latest Avenger 5 teaser the characters constantly mentioned events Avenger 4, did they not... skaathar just got owned! What, Infinity War is Avengers 3, and Endgame is Avengers 4.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 23, 2018 19:55:05 GMT
i hate to say this but dont most of u think the movie is a flaw of being all about cgi and no actual story?
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Post by hobowar on Dec 23, 2018 20:06:51 GMT
i hate to say this but dont most of u think the movie is a flaw of being all about cgi and no actual story? 0% of infinity War is ABOUT cgi. You should pay more attention, listen to the dialogue and think about what the characters are doing and why. It will be a very rewarding experience, I promise.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 24, 2018 0:27:02 GMT
So basically you like perfect heroes. Gotcha. Everyone likes perfect heroes. Nobody wants to see a hero who's a selfish asshole or a coward or too incompetent to get the job done. Just look at James Bond. 50 years, 26 movies. People like watching James Bond movies not because Bond is flawed but because Bond is perfect. Bond is smart, resourceful, loyal to Queen and country, can't be bribed, can't be intimidated, knows how to bungee jump, scuba dive, sky dive, drive a tank, fly a plane, fly a helicopter, even fly a space shuttle. Bond can do whatever is needed to get the job done and is perfect at everything he does. And that's why everyone likes to watch a hero like James Bond. Oh man, this has to be a troll post!! You can't possibly be that retarded.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 24, 2018 19:49:30 GMT
Fact is: It's an episodic movie ending on a cliffhanger. You need to watch the next one to understand all the unresolved plot points and how it ends to get the story completed ( Anticipatory Spoiler: the avenger guys re-assemble, the dusted folks all come back, the bad boy is defeated, the red robot will be repaired to make love to the little witch, Cap and 1 will hug it out, Hulk will be able to get an erection again etc). This is why the next one deals with the fallout and is called "Endgame". I personally was annoyed by the episodic nature (and script structure) but that is how most franchises do it, Hunger Games, Harry Potter etc. Marvel just follows suit, " Greed can be a great ally". And Avengers4 did not present all you need to know. I haven't seen all the films and for me this was an incoherent mess as if you started in the middle of a TV show. This also felt like a mini series, 4 episodes (Tony & Spider fight, Guardians&Thor fight, Cap & Panther fight etc) made into one movie. Just not for me. But to each his own, Lassie. Everything was resolved. The Avenger lost. Thanos won. The End! Did you consider the end of Rocky to be a cliffhanger? No, not everything was resolved in Infinity War. The end of Rocky isn't a cliffhanger because the end of Rocky gives closure to the main story of the movie. If there weren't any more Rocky movies after that, the audience doesn't feel that they didn't get closure on the main story of the movie. Similar with The Godfather. At the end of The Godfather, Michael becomes the Godfather and the ending gives closure to the main story of the movie. If there weren't any more Godfather movies after that, the audience doesn't feel that they didn't get closure on the main story of the movie. Infinity War doesn't give closure on the main story of the movie. That's because Infinity War is only half a movie. The audience needs the other half of the movie to get closure on the main story of the movie, the main story of the MCU episodes. Each MCU is basically like season-long episode of a TV series. So no, MCU movies aren't stand-alone movies but only part of a movie.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 24, 2018 19:58:35 GMT
Everything was resolved. The Avenger lost. Thanos won. The End! Did you consider the end of Rocky to be a cliffhanger? No, not everything was resolved in Infinity War. The end of Rocky isn't a cliffhanger because the end of Rocky gives closure to the main story of the movie. If there weren't any more Rocky movies after that, the audience doesn't feel that they didn't get closure on the main story of the movie. Similar with The Godfather. At the end of The Godfather, Michael becomes the Godfather and the ending gives closure to the main story of the movie. If there weren't any more Godfather movies after that, the audience doesn't feel that they didn't get closure on the main story of the movie. Infinity War doesn't give closure on the main story of the movie. That's because Infinity War is only half a movie. The audience needs the other half of the movie to get closure on the main story of the movie, the main story of the MCU episodes. Each MCU is basically like season-long episode of a TV series. So no, MCU movies aren't stand-alone movies but only part of a movie. The main story of Infinity War is that Thanos is out to complete the gauntlet to kill half the universe and the heroes try to stop him. Thanos completed his goal, killed half the population and the heroes failed to stop him. That effectively closes the main storyline of the movie. It's not a happy ending but it's closure and it's an end to the storyline.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 25, 2018 17:21:10 GMT
But its Thanos who is the hero of the story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 19:01:08 GMT
But its Thanos who is the hero of the story. Thanos The Motion Picture.
He's definitely the hero of his own story. He's the good guy who has the strength of character to be the bad guy the universe needs. They called him mad. He's just ahead of the curve. So wise, he doesn't mind being called a fool. I think that's from Sanjuro.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 23:54:44 GMT
I'm hoping a few things like the Hulk getting a chance to confront his demons and the actions of Quill and Strange get made clear as that one in however many million scenarios it takes to win that Strange was talking about. So I will reserve calling those things flaws until the whole story is concluded.
The biggest flaw I see in the story itself is too many characters and story lines to really make the story as enjoyable to follow as it could have been. I still like the film overall, just not as much as the individual origin films or the first avengers film.
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Post by kleinreturns on Dec 26, 2018 0:11:39 GMT
The movie doesn't work at all. Nobody wants to see a superhero movie with no heroes and only selfish assholes and cowards. Only Avatar, Titantic, and TFA have reached $2B. IW won't be joining that exclusive club. No one else does wrong like DC-Fan!!! LOL!!!! And none of the DC crap or FOX-Men crap ever could reach that either.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 26, 2018 6:57:28 GMT
Meh, hated the screenplay. Way too episodic and repetitive. Like a TV show. The leads get all separated in teams and then disappeared for entire acts. No character development. Also the fucking cliffhanger had no impact knowing that everybody comes back. Great for Marvel fans, which I am not. where did you see screenplay.
the movie nearly 100% cgi
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