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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 24, 2019 22:13:55 GMT
paranoia?
nope. I just notice what you people dont see. I know media tactics.
see most of these people are in panic mode, trying to make sense of black panther Oscars controversy. it is better to shift the focus away from that.
notice how they are now trying to sell the idea this is good for the genre even when they said it is underserved? who are they trying to sell that too? DC fans? that has wonder woman (their own political reason movie) and the dark knight ?
The MCU has a lot of media lap dogs they are just doing their jobs. lol
Someone with a youtube channel says they know someone who says Dark Phoenix is not very good and you think it's a media ploy to detract from the "controversy" of Black Panther getting an Oscar nomination!!! You are either very paranoid or a fake troll that has just pushed it a bit too far. I'll be happy to listen to your evidence for this....but that would be pointless...you still haven't explained how Disney & ABC together got 7000+ individuals in the Academy to vote for Black Panther As for media darlings...who owns Fox, until Disney take over? His delusions seem to be increasing. He actually believes that there is a "Black Panther Oscar controversy".
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Post by dazz on Jan 24, 2019 22:55:24 GMT
paranoia?
nope. I just notice what you people dont see. I know media tactics.
see most of these people are in panic mode, trying to make sense of black panther Oscars controversy. it is better to shift the focus away from that.
notice how they are now trying to sell the idea this is good for the genre even when they said it is underserved? who are they trying to sell that too? DC fans? that has wonder woman (their own political reason movie) and the dark knight ?
The MCU has a lot of media lap dogs they are just doing their jobs. lol
Someone with a youtube channel says they know someone who says Dark Phoenix is not very good and you think it's a media ploy to detract from the "controversy" of Black Panther getting an Oscar nomination!!! You are either very paranoid or a fake troll that has just pushed it a bit too far. I'll be happy to listen to your evidence for this....but that would be pointless...you still haven't explained how Disney & ABC together got 7000+ individuals in the Academy to vote for Black Panther As for media darlings...who owns Fox, until Disney take over? The thing plausibly asserting Disney brought the nomination is not impossible to reasonably assert as a possibility, he is just too stupid to, and even then what's true for BP is true for EVERY film nominated, again he's too dumb to recognise that.
Every year films get nominated a shit load of people disagree with and claim so and so got the nom because of academy bias, like Scorsese & DiCaprio both won Oscars they had been nominated for multiple times for films many consider not their best work, but that they won out of a general feeling of how many times can he be nominated and not win, true or not it was/is a popular opinion amongst a lot of fans, and other films have received a lot of "well if so and so hadn't been the one making it then it wouldn't be nominated", so to act like this is the only case of a movie maybe being nominated for an award it unduly deserved is retarded, which is par for the course with Summers, he's one step above the kid sitting in the corner masturbating whilst eating paper at this stage.
Cannot wait to see what his next self aggrandising post will say, though it may take a few minutes to decipher, for someone "soooo" smart it's hilarious at how bad he is at talking in anyway, I mean he cant even get simple names right most of the time, it's really quite amusing.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 25, 2019 5:28:11 GMT
Because the Academy isn't going to be called racist for not nominating Crazy Rich Asians, but the Academy would definitely be called racist for not nominating Black Panther. And if you perceived as a racist, that's career-suicide. Donald Sterling was forced out as owner of the LA Clippers for making racist comments. Rosanne Barr was fired for making racist comments. Megyn Kelly was fired for what was perceived by some people to be racist comments. So the Academy was scared of being called racist if they didn't nominate Black Panther. That's the sole reason that Black Panther, a movie that shamelessly and excessively promotes racism, got nominated. Or seeing how a Best Picture nom only requires a 5% vote could be that there are more black than Asian members or the academy, could also be because Coogler has a higher award pedigree than Chu, could also be because Black Panther has 10 times the award nominations over all than Crazy Rich Asians, could also be because the Academy members recognised needing to draw an audience and so the $1.3B grossing film is a better draw than the under $250M movie, could also be because whilst both CBM's and comedies are typically snubbed comedies have been nominated in the past so theres less a gimmick for Crazy Rich Asian.
So yeah fear of racism isn't the "sole" reason.
Nah, fear of being labeled a racist is the sole reason Black Panther got nominated.
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Post by dazz on Jan 25, 2019 7:55:45 GMT
Or seeing how a Best Picture nom only requires a 5% vote could be that there are more black than Asian members or the academy, could also be because Coogler has a higher award pedigree than Chu, could also be because Black Panther has 10 times the award nominations over all than Crazy Rich Asians, could also be because the Academy members recognised needing to draw an audience and so the $1.3B grossing film is a better draw than the under $250M movie, could also be because whilst both CBM's and comedies are typically snubbed comedies have been nominated in the past so theres less a gimmick for Crazy Rich Asian.
So yeah fear of racism isn't the "sole" reason.
Nah, fear of being labeled a racist is the sole reason Black Panther got nominated. Nah you're wrong, multiple reasons, being labelled racist isn't even one of them.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 25, 2019 22:23:40 GMT
Or seeing how a Best Picture nom only requires a 5% vote could be that there are more black than Asian members or the academy, could also be because Coogler has a higher award pedigree than Chu, could also be because Black Panther has 10 times the award nominations over all than Crazy Rich Asians, could also be because the Academy members recognised needing to draw an audience and so the $1.3B grossing film is a better draw than the under $250M movie, could also be because whilst both CBM's and comedies are typically snubbed comedies have been nominated in the past so theres less a gimmick for Crazy Rich Asian.
So yeah fear of racism isn't the "sole" reason.
Nah, fear of being labeled a racist is the sole reason Black Panther got nominated. The same goes for Green Book and BlacKKKlansman then? Or did they already meet the makeup quota in you and Summers’ minds?
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Post by summers8 on Jan 25, 2019 22:49:50 GMT
Nah, fear of being labeled a racist is the sole reason Black Panther got nominated. The same goes for Green Book and BlacKKKlansman then? Or did they already meet the makeup quota in you and Summers’ minds? Green Book and BlacKKKlansman are similar films to malcom x, 12 years a slave, amstead, the colour purple, glory. black pamther is a comic film and the oscars hates comic film even the best of the best logan and tdk were denied. so black oanther getting it is why we are laughing at the sham. as said, mcu fans enjoy the nomination but stop playing dumb. its like wrestling. you know it is not a real sport does not mean you cant enjoy it
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 25, 2019 23:52:45 GMT
The same goes for Green Book and BlacKKKlansman then? Or did they already meet the makeup quota in you and Summers’ minds? Green Book and BlacKKKlansman are similar films to malcom x, 12 years a slave, amstead, the colour purple, glory. black pamther is a comic film and the oscars hates comic film even the best of the best logan and tdk were denied. so black oanther getting it is why we are laughing at the sham. as said, mcu fans enjoy the nomination but stop playing dumb. its like wrestling. you know it is not a real sport does not mean you cant enjoy it It's true, a lot of people need to stop 'playing dumb' else, ‘Nobody Is Going to Believe You.’
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 26, 2019 0:10:12 GMT
The same goes for Green Book and BlacKKKlansman then? Or did they already meet the makeup quota in you and Summers’ minds? Green Book and BlacKKKlansman are similar films to malcom x, 12 years a slave, amstead, the colour purple, glory. black pamther is a comic film and the oscars hates comic film even the best of the best logan and tdk were denied. so black oanther getting it is why we are laughing at the sham. as said, mcu fans enjoy the nomination but stop playing dumb. its like wrestling. you know it is not a real sport does not mean you cant enjoy it So are you saying that; admitting that Heath Ledger may have got his Oscar because he died?
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Post by summers8 on Jan 26, 2019 8:30:12 GMT
Green Book and BlacKKKlansman are similar films to malcom x, 12 years a slave, amstead, the colour purple, glory. black pamther is a comic film and the oscars hates comic film even the best of the best logan and tdk were denied. so black oanther getting it is why we are laughing at the sham. as said, mcu fans enjoy the nomination but stop playing dumb. its like wrestling. you know it is not a real sport does not mean you cant enjoy it So are you saying that; admitting that Heath Ledger may have got his Oscar because he died? i see ledger more as Patrick Stewart in logan. even if he won because he died, it doesn't change he was deserving.
also tdk is best picture material, the content in writing, directing and technicality was enough for best picture material.
please we know if this was mcu, winter solider will be your best chance and that is year 2014 meaning it wont have gotten past DOFP.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jan 27, 2019 0:29:12 GMT
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 27, 2019 17:55:58 GMT
So much butthurt over this. As fans of cbms we should be happy with this news. Do I think that some other cbms might have been more worthy of a nomination that BP? Sure I do. But right now I'm just happy that a cbm (any cbm) got nominated for best picture as hopefully this will lead to more cbms in the future getting nominated, regardless of which studio they come from.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 28, 2019 16:11:23 GMT
Of course there are CBMs that I think deserved a BP nomination more than Black Panther but disagreeing with the Academy is nothing new for me. Look at Oscar history. For just one example; Doctor Doolittle was nominated for best picture the same year that Cool Hand Luke was not nominated for best picture? ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/gf93ycxax/giveup.gif)
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 28, 2019 16:24:29 GMT
Of course there are CBMs that I think deserved a BP nomination more than Black Panther but disagreeing with the Academy is nothing new for me. Look at Oscar history. For just one example; Doctor Doolittle was nominated for best picture the same year that Cool Hand Luke was not nominated for best picture? ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/gf93ycxax/giveup.gif) Exactly. Chicago won best picture in the year Road To Perdition wasn't even nominated. Chicago is a classic example of a film riding a wave of popularity into a BP nomination (and eventually a BP win). I think Chicago is a garbage flick and Black Panther, while a solid film, isn't something I'd consider to be 'Best Picture' worthy. But it resonated with audiences and became a worldwide phenomenon, hence the nomination. Sometimes a film 'sneaks' into the BP conversation for reasons other than overall quality as a film; it doesn't have to be about racial politics.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Feb 1, 2019 21:12:00 GMT
Basically the Academy's standards have lowered to the level of modern film critics. Woo-hoo.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 15, 2019 0:00:17 GMT
Best Picture nominations are supposed to be flawless as humanly possible. So how does BlackPanther get nominated with that terrible CGI ending given it had about 7x the budget of the next most expensive Best Pic film? Theres no way the movie would get a perfect score with that glaring error. All the hard work Nolan had to do to get Dunkirk as realistic as possible through practical effects to earn his Best pic nom. All the hard work Villenue had to do on Blade Runner 2049 to get his visuals as pristine as possible but didnt get nominated. Black panther shows up with crappy looking CGI rhinos and a ps2 graphics fight scene and secures a best picture nom. Get the fuck oytta here no ones buying it Is that how Green Book, a film that has less than 80% on RottenTomatoes, somehow WON Best Picture?
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 15, 2019 0:13:22 GMT
Because the Academy isn't going to be called racist for not nominating Crazy Rich Asians, but the Academy would definitely be called racist for not nominating Black Panther. And if you perceived as a racist, that's career-suicide. Donald Sterling was forced out as owner of the LA Clippers for making racist comments. Rosanne Barr was fired for making racist comments. Megyn Kelly was fired for what was perceived by some people to be racist comments. So the Academy was scared of being called racist if they didn't nominate Black Panther. That's the sole reason that Black Panther, a movie that shamelessly and excessively promotes racism, got nominated. Or seeing how a Best Picture nom only requires a 5% vote could be that there are more black than Asian members or the academy, could also be because Coogler has a higher award pedigree than Chu, could also be because Black Panther has 10 times the award nominations over all than Crazy Rich Asians, could also be because the Academy members recognised needing to draw an audience and so the $1.3B grossing film is a better draw than the under $250M movie, could also be because whilst both CBM's and comedies are typically snubbed comedies have been nominated in the past so theres less a gimmick for Crazy Rich Asian.
So yeah fear of racism isn't the "sole" reason.
Not to mention the fact that Jon M. Chu's portfolio used to be terrible. Just look at Jem and the Holograms.
As a matter of fact, this is exactly why I thought Crazy Rich Asians was going to suck big time.
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