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Post by politicidal on Jan 23, 2019 19:01:04 GMT
Maybe when you stop acting like a self righteous **** ******** There's no need for you or anybody to be making comments like that to each other. It's a small community here, you'd think you'd all get on better than this by now, you've all known if each other for a couple years. No insults of any kind please. 4. Gratuitous insults and name-calling are frowned upon. Please extend the same respect and courtesy you would expect to receive for yourself when interacting with other community members.
Next time it'll be a strike. It wasn't always small.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 23, 2019 19:49:46 GMT
So are you saying LOTR:Two Towers didn't deserve its Oscar? That was before 10 years ago. After 2008 and the dark knight they started adding more than 5 movies. And only Selma and now BP has got this unfortunate astrix next to their names forever So what if it was 10 years ago? It still didn't get nominated for any other major awards. Following your logic, that should mean it didn't deserve best picture right? Or are you applying that logic only to movies younger than 10 years?
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 20:01:02 GMT
That was before 10 years ago. After 2008 and the dark knight they started adding more than 5 movies. And only Selma and now BP has got this unfortunate astrix next to their names forever So what if it was 10 years ago? It still didn't get nominated for any other major awards. Following your logic, that should mean it didn't deserve best picture right? Or are you applying that logic only to movies younger than 10 years? skaathar let's make it simple. would black panther have been nominated for best picture if
1. the cast was white?
2. was made by sony, fox or dc? not by disney who owns abc and can amass undue influnce
from a film making stand point not biased fan boy opinions
spiderman 2 xmen 2 dofp tdk batman begins winter solider
is black panther better than this movies is writing, directing, acting, cgi, cinematography, themes?
did question is there, I dont expect an honest answer but the truthful question was asked.
maybe you should ask yourself why the world cant celebrate black panther best picture nomination when it was so easy for the world to celebrate logan and tdk for their acting and writitng nominations.
there is this saying the truth will set you free.
just admit black panther was nominated not on merit and move on. we have been saying it for weeks. your denial is making black panther look worse.
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Post by sostie on Jan 23, 2019 20:22:05 GMT
So what if it was 10 years ago? It still didn't get nominated for any other major awards. Following your logic, that should mean it didn't deserve best picture right? Or are you applying that logic only to movies younger than 10 years? skaathar let's make it simple. would black panther have been nominated for best picture if
1. the cast was white?
Let's look at this from another angle...would you complain if the cast wasn't black? Would you raise the issue of race if these studios made an all black superhero film that got nominated? And how exactly does that influence the independent Academy, the majority of whose members are not Disney employees or part of the MCU? How exactly does Disney "influence" a significant number of the 7000+ members? How can they be sure their influence will work if nominations are anonymous? Why has there not been one single whistle blower? You are so sure that Disney have influenced these nomination you MUST be able to tell us how exactly. I you can't stop repeating yourself...you are in danger of becoming a odd basement nutjob in a tin foil hat.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 23, 2019 20:28:36 GMT
So what if it was 10 years ago? It still didn't get nominated for any other major awards. Following your logic, that should mean it didn't deserve best picture right? Or are you applying that logic only to movies younger than 10 years? skaathar let's make it simple. would black panther have been nominated for best picture if
1. the cast was white?
2. was made by sony, fox or dc? not by disney who owns abc and can amass undue influnce
from a film making stand point not biased fan boy opinions
spiderman 2 xmen 2 dofp tdk batman begins winter solider
is black panther better than this movies is writing, directing, acting, cgi, cinematography, themes?
did question is there, I dont expect an honest answer but the truthful question was asked.
Positive?
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 23, 2019 20:30:09 GMT
So what if it was 10 years ago? It still didn't get nominated for any other major awards. Following your logic, that should mean it didn't deserve best picture right? Or are you applying that logic only to movies younger than 10 years? skaathar let's make it simple. would black panther have been nominated for best picture if
1. the cast was white?
2. was made by sony, fox or dc? not by disney who owns abc and can amass undue influnce
from a film making stand point not biased fan boy opinions
spiderman 2 xmen 2 dofp tdk batman begins winter solider
is black panther better than this movies is writing, directing, acting, cgi, cinematography, themes?
did question is there, I dont expect an honest answer but the truthful question was asked.
maybe you should ask yourself why the world cant celebrate black panther best picture nomination when it was so easy for the world to celebrate logan and tdk for their acting and writitng nominations.
there is this saying the truth will set you free.
just admit black panther was nominated not on merit and move on. we have been saying it for weeks. your denial is making black panther look worse.
Summers8, let's make this simple: Would you be complaining about this if BP was an X-men film produced by Fox? P.S. - It would also help if you fixed your grammar so I could at least understand what you're talking about.
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Post by sostie on Jan 23, 2019 20:31:17 GMT
Well if John Capea (who?) says so it must be true. And why is Cinematography considered one of the "major" awards? Arguably Editing is just as important. Tarantino, Scorsese and others have namechecked editors as their most important collaborators in the film making process. Or was Cinematography just put in their because increases the criteria that apparentley makes BP "unworthy"
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Post by politicidal on Jan 23, 2019 20:31:30 GMT
skaathar let's make it simple. would black panther have been nominated for best picture if
1. the cast was white?
Let's look at this from another angle...would you complain if the cast wasn't black? Would you raise the issue of race if these studios made an all black superhero film that got nominated? And how exactly does that influence the independent Academy, the majority of whose members are not Disney employees or part of the MCU? How exactly does Disney "influence" a significant number of the 7000+ members? How can they be sure their influence will work if nominations are anonymous? Why has there not been one single whistle blower? You are so sure that Disney have influenced these nomination you MUST be able to tell us how exactly. I you can't stop repeating yourself...you are in danger of becoming a odd basement nutjob in a tin foil hat. Hey show some respect to an attorney at law. Remember that he can lay down the law of the reality of what's going on here at all times. Don't force his keyboard! We're no match.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 23, 2019 20:46:55 GMT
Well if John Capea (who?) says so it must be true. And why is Cinematography considered one of the "major" awards? Arguably Editing is just as important. Tarantino, Scorsese and others have namechecked editors as their most important collaborators in the film making process. Or was Cinematography just put in their because increases the criteria that apparentley makes BP "unworthy" Yeah, cinematography isn't a major award. The Major 8 are: Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Actress Best Supporting Actor Best Supporting Actress Best Original/Adapted Screenplay I thought the Oscars would throw Black Panther a bone and give it Adapted Screenplay or Supporting Actor.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 23, 2019 20:48:11 GMT
Best picture , but none for acting, writing or directing ? What are they rewarding? Uh...the movie itself.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 21:01:20 GMT
skaathar let's make it simple. would black panther have been nominated for best picture if
1. the cast was white?
2. was made by sony, fox or dc? not by disney who owns abc and can amass undue influnce
from a film making stand point not biased fan boy opinions
spiderman 2 xmen 2 dofp tdk batman begins winter solider
is black panther better than this movies is writing, directing, acting, cgi, cinematography, themes?
did question is there, I dont expect an honest answer but the truthful question was asked.
maybe you should ask yourself why the world cant celebrate black panther best picture nomination when it was so easy for the world to celebrate logan and tdk for their acting and writitng nominations.
there is this saying the truth will set you free.
just admit black panther was nominated not on merit and move on. we have been saying it for weeks. your denial is making black panther look worse.
Summers8, let's make this simple: Would you be complaining about this if BP was an X-men film produced by Fox? P.S. - It would also help if you fixed your grammar so I could at least understand what you're talking about. easy answer. no I wont complain. if fox made black panther with the right team. fox would have made a superior movie to disney because fox would have kept the content and limited the catoonish thing disney does.
infact fox black panther could have rival django unchained. afterall even tarantino will agree first class was as good as inglorious bastards,Tarantino said first class was among the top 5 best film of 2011. and he said it on film merit.
shame really , I wish black panther was produced by fox, it would have been another logan for fox black panther is not problem. disney's incompetence is the problem.
if spike lee had made black panther with sony.black panther's oscar for best picture I would have cheered because spike lee would have malcolm x the hell out of the movie. sadly disney cant do that.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 21:03:32 GMT
funny i can answer simple questions. mcu fans cant answer mine. there it is as notorious big will say.
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Post by sostie on Jan 23, 2019 21:07:28 GMT
Summers8, let's make this simple: Would you be complaining about this if BP was an X-men film produced by Fox? P.S. - It would also help if you fixed your grammar so I could at least understand what you're talking about. . disney's incompetence is the problem.
Incompetent? I thought they rigged the Oscars without being caught. Sounds very competent to me
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Post by politicidal on Jan 23, 2019 21:16:10 GMT
funny i can answer simple questions. mcu fans cant answer mine. If they were in coherent sentences in a readily identifiable language, perhaps they might fare better.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 21:18:38 GMT
Well if John Capea (who?) says so it must be true. And why is Cinematography considered one of the "major" awards? Arguably Editing is just as important. Tarantino, Scorsese and others have namechecked editors as their most important collaborators in the film making process. Or was Cinematography just put in their because increases the criteria that apparentley makes BP "unworthy" Yeah, cinematography isn't a major award. The Major 8 are: Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Actress Best Supporting Actor Best Supporting Actress Best Original/Adapted Screenplay I thought the Oscars would throw Black Panther a bone and give it Adapted Screenplay or Supporting Actor. remember logan,,how people were enrage partick Stewart was not nominated for supporting actor. some even wanted it more than best picture?
that is how you know something is done on merit. heath ledger in tdk. argue he won because he died but no one can argue he was nominated because he died.
writing and picture go hand on hand. reason logan nom was so celebrated. black panther the world is cringing. even many black people are embarrassed because they hate affirmative action.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 23, 2019 21:24:01 GMT
Summers8, let's make this simple: Would you be complaining about this if BP was an X-men film produced by Fox? P.S. - It would also help if you fixed your grammar so I could at least understand what you're talking about. easy answer. no I wont complain. if fox made black panther with the right team. fox would have made a superior movie to disney because fox would have kept the content and limited the catoonish thing disney does.
infact fox black panther could have rival django unchained. afterall even tarantino will agree first class was as good as inglorious bastards,Tarantino said first class was among the top 5 best film of 2011. and he said it on film merit.
shame really , I wish black panther was produced by fox, it would have been another logan for fox black panther is not problem. disney's incompetence is the problem.
if spike lee had made black panther with sony.black panther's oscar for best picture I would have cheered because spike lee would have malcolm x the hell out of the movie. sadly disney cant do that.
And there you have it. Summers8 hates BP for no other reason than it was made by the MCU.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 23, 2019 21:38:22 GMT
Yeah, cinematography isn't a major award. The Major 8 are: Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Actress Best Supporting Actor Best Supporting Actress Best Original/Adapted Screenplay I thought the Oscars would throw Black Panther a bone and give it Adapted Screenplay or Supporting Actor. remember logan,,how people were enrage partick Stewart was not nominated for supporting actor. some even wanted it more than best picture?
that is how you know something is done on merit. heath ledger in tdk. argue he won because he died but no one can argue he was nominated because he died.
writing and picture go hand on hand. reason logan nom was so celebrated. black panther the world is cringing. even many black people are embarrassed because they hate affirmative action.
Yeah, 2 people equals the entire world.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 23, 2019 21:42:22 GMT
Summers8, let's make this simple: Would you be complaining about this if BP was an X-men film produced by Fox? P.S. - It would also help if you fixed your grammar so I could at least understand what you're talking about. easy answer. no I wont complain. if fox made black panther with the right team. fox would have made a superior movie to disney because fox would have kept the content and limited the catoonish thing disney does.
infact fox black panther could have rival django unchained. afterall even tarantino will agree first class was as good as inglorious bastards,Tarantino said first class was among the top 5 best film of 2011. and he said it on film merit.
shame really , I wish black panther was produced by fox, it would have been another logan for fox black panther is not problem. disney's incompetence is the problem.
if spike lee had made black panther with sony.black panther's oscar for best picture I would have cheered because spike lee would have malcolm x the hell out of the movie. sadly disney cant do that.
Considering that Fox has never made a good Marvel movie outside of X-Men, Black Panther by Fox could potentially be terrible.
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Post by bud47 on Jan 23, 2019 22:03:13 GMT
easy answer. no I wont complain. if fox made black panther with the right team. fox would have made a superior movie to disney because fox would have kept the content and limited the catoonish thing disney does.
infact fox black panther could have rival django unchained. afterall even tarantino will agree first class was as good as inglorious bastards,Tarantino said first class was among the top 5 best film of 2011. and he said it on film merit.
shame really , I wish black panther was produced by fox, it would have been another logan for fox black panther is not problem. disney's incompetence is the problem.
if spike lee had made black panther with sony.black panther's oscar for best picture I would have cheered because spike lee would have malcolm x the hell out of the movie. sadly disney cant do that.
Considering that Fox has never made a good Marvel movie outside of X-Men, Black Panther by Fox could potentially be terrible. That's true. We all saw how they handled Fantastic Four.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 22:13:34 GMT
Considering that Fox has never made a good Marvel movie outside of X-Men, Black Panther by Fox could potentially be terrible. That's true. We all saw how they handled Fantastic Four. do you miss the part when I said the right team? star wars 1-6, planet of the apes, x-men, shall I go on. all have superior movies to black panther and that is fact.
how does the world cheer logan and tdk oscar norm and cringe at black panther and start a backlash?
if only spike lee made black panther with sony. look at mcu fans, they know black panther is so un deserved, the award is a sham they just attack is for saying this truth.
what should be a celebration for them and the genre, is now a place of hostility and chap insults.
let the fun begin.
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