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Post by Eλευθερί on May 24, 2019 10:55:55 GMT
I got the wrong impression from the thread title. RT will now only allow people who can prove they've purchased a ticket to see the film in the cinema to vote for compiling the audience ratings.
Doesn't directly affect me since I rarely pay any attention to RT ratings. But it could affect me indirectly to the extent that those who decide which future projects to greenlight pay attention to RT ratings.
I probably only glance at RT a dozen times a year or less.
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Post by Eλευθερί on May 24, 2019 10:57:36 GMT
It's really a problem for any company that produces something that is being reviewed to also own the reviewing platform. HUGE conflict of interest.
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Post by sdm3 on May 24, 2019 14:06:43 GMT
lol?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 17:15:38 GMT
I only use RT for critic reviews anyway. I come to Proboards for audience reviews.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 25, 2019 1:35:00 GMT
Warner Brothers "owns" Rt the same way I "own" Microsoft. I invest in Microsoft stock so I'm an "owner" of Microsoft but I have no control over how Microsoft is run. Similarly, Warner Brothers invests in a minority of RT (large corporations often invest in other companies) but Warner Brothers has no control over how RT is run any more than I have control over how Microsoft is run. That kind of claim is less likely to work when you own 30% of the site, not to mention that Disney doesn't have any stakes there. The last time I checked, 30% is still a minority. It takes 50+% to have controlling interest in a company. And Disney doesn't need to have ownership of RT to influence. RT gets a big chunk of their revenue from advertisers. And Disney has more than enough money and power to influence advertisers.
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Post by damngumby on May 25, 2019 5:51:04 GMT
The only people who could possibly be upset that you have to verify that you saw a movie before scoring it, are the bitter fanboy trolls who abuse the system. (Thank you for outing yourselves, BTW.) It's so sad, I think I may actually shed a tear! ... oh, wait ... just a spec of dust.
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Post by damngumby on May 25, 2019 6:14:37 GMT
That kind of claim is less likely to work when you own 30% of the site, not to mention that Disney doesn't have any stakes there. The last time I checked, 30% is still a minority. It takes 50+% to have controlling interest in a company. And Disney doesn't need to have ownership of RT to influence. RT gets a big chunk of their revenue from advertisers. And Disney has more than enough money and power to influence advertisers. Oh dear. Alway Wrong thinks a 30% owner has no influence, but a 0% owner does. ... and a 30% owner has no more influence than a 0.0001% owner. Is there not a single subject that this guy can't screw up?
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Post by DC-Fan on May 25, 2019 6:35:34 GMT
The last time I checked, 30% is still a minority. It takes 50+% to have controlling interest in a company. And Disney doesn't need to have ownership of RT to influence. RT gets a big chunk of their revenue from advertisers. And Disney has more than enough money and power to influence advertisers. Oh dear. Alway Wrong thinks a 30% owner has no influence, but a 0% owner does. LOL!!! King Kong Shady actually thinks that advertisers have no influence over what a company does. King Kong Shady was wrong about Brady's cheating in DeflateGate and once again King Kong Shady is wrong about Disney not pressuring RT into censoring negative ratings of Captain Marvel.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on May 25, 2019 8:13:03 GMT
Oh dear. Alway Wrong thinks a 30% owner has no influence, but a 0% owner does. LOL!!! King Kong Shady actually thinks that advertisers have no influence over what a company does. King Kong Shady was wrong about Brady's cheating in DeflateGate and once again King Kong Shady is wrong about Disney not pressuring RT into censoring negative ratings of Captain Marvel. Last I checked, Captain Marvel isn't considered one of the best MCU movies. Currently at a 78% fresh, that means 22% of reviews are negative. So how are they censoring negative ratings again?
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on May 25, 2019 8:21:50 GMT
Not really surprised.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 25, 2019 9:22:57 GMT
I have never really understood why people care so much about Rotten Tomatoes.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 25, 2019 14:57:39 GMT
LOL!!! King Kong Shady actually thinks that advertisers have no influence over what a company does. King Kong Shady was wrong about Brady's cheating in DeflateGate and once again King Kong Shady is wrong about Disney not pressuring RT into censoring negative ratings of Captain Marvel. Currently at a 78% fresh, that means 22% of reviews are negative. So how are they censoring negative ratings again? If Disney weren't censoring negative ratings for Captain Marvel, then the percentages would be reversed.
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Post by damngumby on May 25, 2019 15:09:55 GMT
Oh dear. Alway Wrong thinks a 30% owner has no influence, but a 0% owner does. LOL!!! King Kong Shady actually thinks that advertisers have no influence over what a company does. King Kong Shady was wrong about Brady's cheating in DeflateGate and once again King Kong Shady is wrong about Disney not pressuring RT into censoring negative ratings of Captain Marvel. The Disney knucklehead who threatened to pull Disney's advertisement on RT if they didnt skew the RT scores ... thereby reducing the marketing exposure of a new release on the biggest movie website, must be the same moron who thought it was a good idea to spend more than they took in by buying seats to elevate the total gross. Prior to all that, he must have been one of those NFL officials who had to admit that he had no idea that temperature affects the pressure in a football, and then spent millions of dollars trying to hide that fact. Can such an idiot really exist in real life?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on May 25, 2019 17:44:57 GMT
Currently at a 78% fresh, that means 22% of reviews are negative. So how are they censoring negative ratings again? If Disney weren't censoring negative ratings for Captain Marvel, then the percentages would be reversed. If Disney was truly censoring negative ratings, they would delete all negative reviews so Captain Marvel would have a 100%. After all, Rotten Tomatoes just collects reviews from websites and journals and put them together and calculate the percentage of critics who give the movie a fresh review. So how is RT's and Marvel's fault that the majority think Captain Marvel is a good film?
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Post by DC-Fan on May 25, 2019 17:53:40 GMT
If Disney weren't censoring negative ratings for Captain Marvel, then the percentages would be reversed. Rotten Tomatoes just collects reviews from websites and journals and put them together and calculate the percentage of critics who give the movie a fresh review. And RT was pressured by Disney to change their algorithm so that many of the negative reviews for Captain Marvel were suppressed and excluded from the calculated percentages.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on May 25, 2019 18:15:48 GMT
Rotten Tomatoes just collects reviews from websites and journals and put them together and calculate the percentage of critics who give the movie a fresh review. And RT was pressured by Disney to change their algorithm so that many of the negative reviews for Captain Marvel were suppressed and excluded from the calculated percentages. ...or they were just more positive reviews than negative reviews.
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Post by jimanchower on May 25, 2019 18:19:14 GMT
And RT was pressured by Disney to change their algorithm so that many of the negative reviews for Captain Marvel were suppressed and excluded from the calculated percentages. ...or they were just more positive reviews than negative reviews. Like how there were more people who didn't want to see it than wanted to see it till RT removed that feature to "combat trolls"?
Once you start censoring everything you do is suspect. RT has zero credibility.
And Youtube absolutely altered their algorithm to suppress negative stuff about CM and promote mainstream stuff, which is controlled by Disney. I mean do you even realize how big Disney is or what it controls and the pressure it puts out?
Stick to watching Pokemon movies and let the adults talk.
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Post by nostromo87 on May 25, 2019 18:24:59 GMT
People still use Rotten tomatoes as an accurate estimate of a movie's quality? I thought that was the go to site to see which movies paid the critics off.
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Post by damngumby on May 25, 2019 18:33:53 GMT
...or they were just more positive reviews than negative reviews. Like how there were more people who didn't want to see it than wanted to see it till RT removed that feature to "combat trolls"?
Once you start censoring everything you do is suspect. RT has zero credibility.
And Youtube absolutely altered their algorithm to suppress negative stuff about CM and promote mainstream stuff, which is controlled by Disney. I mean do you even realize how big Disney is or what it controls and the pressure it puts out?
Stick to watching Pokemon movies and let the adults talk.
The $1 billion + box office is a pretty clear indicator that the number of people who wanted to see CM was quite high. Eliminating reviews by people who didn't see the movie is hardly censorship. The one thing we can be pretty sure Disney doesn't control is RT, since it is owned by their competition. What's the RT rating of Aladdin right now?
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Post by blockbusted on May 26, 2019 19:55:26 GMT
...or they were just more positive reviews than negative reviews. Like how there were more people who didn't want to see it than wanted to see it till RT removed that feature to "combat trolls"?
Once you start censoring everything you do is suspect. RT has zero credibility.
And Youtube absolutely altered their algorithm to suppress negative stuff about CM and promote mainstream stuff, which is controlled by Disney. I mean do you even realize how big Disney is or what it controls and the pressure it puts out?
Stick to watching Pokemon movies and let the adults talk.
Ah, yes. Because not watching the best video game adaptation of all time makes you so "mature". Instead, we should all watch 'Fifty Shades Freed' because it's for adults only. Right...? RIGHT?
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