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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 1:35:49 GMT
Wow. Three whole books. Out of how many in total? Truly, that warrants a mic drop... lol. I'll stand by it, as someone who's prolly forgotten more EU than you'll ever read and has read all the Potters thrice. Nothing JKR has written rivals even one of these Zahn books, in scope or execution. Much less all three, to say nothing of his others. To quote the Dark Lord of the Sith: "You are beaten. It is USELESS to resist..." In scope and execution? I'll take the Potter books watching the characters evolve over the course of 7 years over the Thrawn trilogy, and that's not a knock against the latter. And I hate to break it to you, but some film quote that provides no insight into what's being discussed doesn't help your argument. It also doesn't make you appear witty.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2017 1:37:43 GMT
I'll stand by it, as someone who's prolly forgotten more EU than you'll ever read and has read all the Potters thrice. Nothing JKR has written rivals even one of these Zahn books, in scope or execution. Much less all three, to say nothing of his others. To quote the Dark Lord of the Sith: "You are beaten. It is USELESS to resist..." In scope and execution? I'll take the Potter books watching the characters evolve over the course of 7 years over the Thrawn trilogy, and that's not a knock against the latter. And I hate to break it to you, but some film quote that provides no insight into what's being discussed doesn't help your argument. It also doesn't make you appear witty. ... Boring conversation anyway.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 1:41:37 GMT
Do you honestly think people would admit that when the whole reason they'd be buying some of this stuff is to make it appear that they're devoted to the franchise? Whether to convince others or even themselves? Also, just because you haven't personally experienced something doesn't mean it hasn't happened. You do know what anecdotal evidence is, and that it doesn't prove anything, right? So please, keep on embarassing yourself with your inability to rebut. It's quite amusing Still have yousen yoga pants on too tight. I just told yousa my long time experience. And what do yousen offer in return? Theories... anecdotal evidence theories to add to yousa irrelevant apples-to-oranges comparison: SW novels vs. Transformers merchandise, to add to yousen personal opinion dat yousa keep trying to claim is objective! Stop embarrassing yousa self, Gungan fool! And your personal experience, no matter how the length, is still just anecdotal. By the way, anecdotal is based on personal experiences, so my theories don't count when it comes to Star Wars (though I have met people who watch shows, or buy books purely out of loyalty despite hating the then current storylines). But unlike you, I'm not trying to pass off my claims as definitive proof or something. All I've said is some probably do this, and that sales of merchandise means jack in terms of quality, something you struggle to understand.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 1:43:13 GMT
In scope and execution? I'll take the Potter books watching the characters evolve over the course of 7 years over the Thrawn trilogy, and that's not a knock against the latter. And I hate to break it to you, but some film quote that provides no insight into what's being discussed doesn't help your argument. It also doesn't make you appear witty. ... Boring conversation anyway. Ah, I was wondering if I'd been conversing with a child. Thanks for confirming. I can be sure to avoid you in the future. No sense wasting time.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2017 1:46:14 GMT
Knock yourself out, dude. You're a condescending douche who doesn't realize how off-putting and ill-informed he sounds amongst a group of people who -- like I've already politely explained to you -- have forgotten more than you'll ever know about this topic. I frankly don't have time to lower myself intellectually to explain to you on a level you'll appreciate rather than staring at the screen like a dog that's been shown a card trick that your entire line of argument is stupid.
It's not that we disagree, it's that you're being twattish. Piss off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 3:00:48 GMT
Still have yousen yoga pants on too tight. I just told yousa my long time experience. And what do yousen offer in return? Theories... anecdotal evidence theories to add to yousa irrelevant apples-to-oranges comparison: SW novels vs. Transformers merchandise, to add to yousen personal opinion dat yousa keep trying to claim is objective! Stop embarrassing yousa self, Gungan fool! And your personal experience, no matter how the length, is still just anecdotal. By the way, anecdotal is based on personal experiences, so my theories don't count when it comes to Star Wars (though I have met people who watch shows, or buy books purely out of loyalty despite hating the then current storylines). But unlike you, I'm not trying to pass off my claims as definitive proof or something. All I've said is some probably do this, and that sales of merchandise means jack in terms of quality, something you struggle to understand. And what yousen fail to understand is dat you've offered nothing more objective in debate. So yousen argument is sales in merchandise has no bearing on quality. Yet yousa can't bring anything up but yousa own highly subjective opinion and some joke empty counterpoints. Circle jerk opinions aren't a foundation for an argument, Mr. Yoga-pants! And dats what yousa fail to understand. But please continue to make fool of self! What makes it more entertaining is yousen are to arrogant to see dat yousa makin a Gungan fool of self! Meesa thinks dat yousen have earned a new name from Captain Tarpals... Jar Jar Yoga-pants! Please come back to entertain da Captain, Mr. Jar Jar Yoga-pants!
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Post by camimac on Apr 19, 2017 3:03:57 GMT
I think comparing Harry Potter to Star Wars is like comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 3:48:42 GMT
And your personal experience, no matter how the length, is still just anecdotal. By the way, anecdotal is based on personal experiences, so my theories don't count when it comes to Star Wars (though I have met people who watch shows, or buy books purely out of loyalty despite hating the then current storylines). But unlike you, I'm not trying to pass off my claims as definitive proof or something. All I've said is some probably do this, and that sales of merchandise means jack in terms of quality, something you struggle to understand. And what yousen fail to understand is dat you've offered nothing more objective in debate. So yousen argument is sales in merchandise has no bearing on quality. Yet yousa can't bring anything up but yousa own highly subjective opinion and some joke empty counterpoints. Circle jerk opinions aren't a foundation for an argument, Mr. Yoga-pants! And dats what yousa fail to understand. But please continue to make fool of self! What makes it more entertaining is yousen are to arrogant to see dat yousa makin a Gungan fool of self! Meesa thinks dat yousen have earned a new name from Captain Tarpals... Jar Jar Yoga-pants! Please come back to entertain da Captain, Mr. Jar Jar Yoga-pants! FFS, you were the one using sales of Star Wars EU novels as if it proved something re: quality. I mean, I know you're dedicated to writing like a Gungan speaks, but I didn't think you were actually mentally handicapped like one. And yet again, you continue to offer nothing worthwhile. No reasoning, no critical thinking. Absolutely zilch.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 3:52:05 GMT
Knock yourself out, dude. You're a condescending douche who doesn't realize how off-putting and ill-informed he sounds amongst a group of people who -- like I've already politely explained to you -- have forgotten more than you'll ever know about this topic. I frankly don't have time to lower myself intellectually to explain to you on a level you'll appreciate rather than staring at the screen like a dog that's been shown a card trick that your entire line of argument is stupid. It's not that we disagree, it's that you're being twattish. Piss off. You've "forgotten more than [I'll] ever know?" Um, forgetting things doesn't really help your case when trying to talk about how good you thought the EU was. And kid, you've offered nothing but pithy remarks and quotes, and admissions that you don't remember much about the EU. You want to talk about lowering yourself intellectually? You were never above anyone in that regard to begin with.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2017 3:55:22 GMT
Knock yourself out, dude. You're a condescending douche who doesn't realize how off-putting and ill-informed he sounds amongst a group of people who -- like I've already politely explained to you -- have forgotten more than you'll ever know about this topic. I frankly don't have time to lower myself intellectually to explain to you on a level you'll appreciate rather than staring at the screen like a dog that's been shown a card trick that your entire line of argument is stupid. It's not that we disagree, it's that you're being twattish. Piss off. You've "forgotten more than [I'll] ever know?" Um, forgetting things doesn't really help your case when trying to talk about how good you thought the EU was. And kid, you've offered nothing but pithy remarks and quotes, and admissions that you don't remember much about the EU. You want to talk about lowering yourself intellectually? You were never above anyone in that regard to begin with. See? Twattish.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 4:01:09 GMT
And what yousen fail to understand is dat you've offered nothing more objective in debate. So yousen argument is sales in merchandise has no bearing on quality. Yet yousa can't bring anything up but yousa own highly subjective opinion and some joke empty counterpoints. Circle jerk opinions aren't a foundation for an argument, Mr. Yoga-pants! And dats what yousa fail to understand. But please continue to make fool of self! What makes it more entertaining is yousen are to arrogant to see dat yousa makin a Gungan fool of self! Meesa thinks dat yousen have earned a new name from Captain Tarpals... Jar Jar Yoga-pants! Please come back to entertain da Captain, Mr. Jar Jar Yoga-pants! FFS, you were the one using sales of Star Wars EU novels as if it proved something re: quality. I mean, I know you're dedicated to writing like a Gungan speaks, but I didn't think you were actually mentally handicapped like one. And yet again, you continue to offer nothing worthwhile. No reasoning, no critical thinking. Absolutely zilch. Yeah, yousa keep criticizing my "critical thinking" when all you've offered is your personal opinion which is supposed to be some elite form of critical thinking dat is equivalent to objectivity. What a joke! How many different ways do I have to say it Gungan fool! Yousa opinion is not objectivity. At least I pointed out facts regarding sales. Stop sniffing yousa farts and opinions. Both smell bad and are empty.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 4:06:31 GMT
FFS, you were the one using sales of Star Wars EU novels as if it proved something re: quality. I mean, I know you're dedicated to writing like a Gungan speaks, but I didn't think you were actually mentally handicapped like one. And yet again, you continue to offer nothing worthwhile. No reasoning, no critical thinking. Absolutely zilch. Yeah, yousa keep criticizing my "critical thinking" when all you've offered is your personal opinion which is supposed to be some elite form of critical thinking dat is equivalent to objectivity. What a joke! How many different ways do I have to say it Gungan fool! Yousa opinion is not objectivity. At least I pointed out facts regarding sales. Stop sniffing yousa farts and opinions. Both smell bad and are empty. Never claimed my opinion was. But has my reasoning been better than yours, which consisted of pointing to sales as some proof of quality? Yes, it has. Here's a fact (again): sales do not prove quality. So referencing them in a debate on quality is utterly pointless.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 4:10:56 GMT
You've "forgotten more than [I'll] ever know?" Um, forgetting things doesn't really help your case when trying to talk about how good you thought the EU was. And kid, you've offered nothing but pithy remarks and quotes, and admissions that you don't remember much about the EU. You want to talk about lowering yourself intellectually? You were never above anyone in that regard to begin with. See? Twattish. So pointing out your poor arguments is twattish? And seriously, you've forgotten much of what happened in the EU? How does that help your case? No, what's twattish is a one line response that doesn't address any of the issues brought up.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2017 4:13:51 GMT
So pointing out your poor arguments is twattish? And seriously, you've forgotten much of what happened in the EU? How does that help your case? No, what's twattish is a one line response that doesn't address any of the issues brought up. "Forgotten more than you'll ever know" is an expression. Think it through all critical-like, and you might get it, you (stupid, uneducated) twat.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 4:31:23 GMT
So pointing out your poor arguments is twattish? And seriously, you've forgotten much of what happened in the EU? How does that help your case? No, what's twattish is a one line response that doesn't address any of the issues brought up. "Forgotten more than you'll ever know" is an expression. Think it through all critical-like, and you might get it, you (stupid, uneducated) twat. If it is, it's on par with "I could care less" being used to mean one could NOT care less. So spare me colloquial phrases that actually contradict what you mean. It kind of gives the impression that you haven't received much of an education when it comes to the English language.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2017 4:41:14 GMT
"Forgotten more than you'll ever know" is an expression. Think it through all critical-like, and you might get it, you (stupid, uneducated) twat. If it is, it's on par with "I could care less" being used to mean one could NOT care less. So spare me colloquial phrases that actually contradict what you mean. It kind of gives the impression that you haven't received much of an education when it comes to the English language. No, it's not "on par" with (you mean analogous to) either the incorrect or correct version of that particular phrase/idiom. So spare me the attempt to spar grammatically or conceptually. It kind of gives the impression you're actually incapable of understanding the phrase in question. To've "forgotten more than you'll ever know" implies that one's knowledge on a particular topic is so vast that even the small percentage of it that has escaped that person over time dramatically exceeds the total understanding of a subject by another, inferior individual -- in this instance, you, the moron to whom I am actually, literally sitting here typing out an explicit explanation of a well-known expression, you fucking imbecile.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 19, 2017 9:00:20 GMT
Yeah, yousa keep criticizing my "critical thinking" when all you've offered is your personal opinion which is supposed to be some elite form of critical thinking dat is equivalent to objectivity. What a joke! How many different ways do I have to say it Gungan fool! Yousa opinion is not objectivity. At least I pointed out facts regarding sales. Stop sniffing yousa farts and opinions. Both smell bad and are empty. Never claimed my opinion was. But has my reasoning been better than yours, which consisted of pointing to sales as some proof of quality? Yes, it has.Only in your mind, my young apprentice. That's not a fact! It's your highly subjective opinion. Film, books and other forms of related media are art. And all art is subjective! It's not something that can be quantitatively measured like the materials that a house was made of or the life expectancy and maintenance record of a car. A person can put whatever standards as proof of quality that they want to. Since art is completely subjective, the standards are as well. And yes, popularity and sales can be one of those standards if one so chooses. So, sorry to burst your argument's bubble, but you're wrong.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 15:59:46 GMT
If it is, it's on par with "I could care less" being used to mean one could NOT care less. So spare me colloquial phrases that actually contradict what you mean. It kind of gives the impression that you haven't received much of an education when it comes to the English language. No, it's not "on par" with (you mean analogous to) either the incorrect or correct version of that particular phrase/idiom. So spare me the attempt to spar grammatically or conceptually. It kind of gives the impression you're actually incapable of understanding the phrase in question. To've "forgotten more than you'll ever know" implies that one's knowledge on a particular topic is so vast that even the small percentage of it that has escaped that person over time dramatically exceeds the total understanding of a subject by another, inferior individual -- in this instance, you, the moron to whom I am actually, literally sitting here typing out an explicit explanation of a well-known expression, you fucking imbecile. Perhaps if you actually provided examples of how the EU was so great and superior to the Potter books (beyond inserting images of the Thrawn trilogy) I'd believe that you actually know something about it. Instead, your posts make it seem that you know little or nothing.
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Post by yogabagaba on Apr 19, 2017 16:03:12 GMT
Never claimed my opinion was. But has my reasoning been better than yours, which consisted of pointing to sales as some proof of quality? Yes, it has.Only in your mind, my young apprentice. That's not a fact! It's your highly subjective opinion. Film, books and other forms of related media are art. And all art is subjective! It's not something that can be quantitatively measured like the materials that a house was made of or the life expectancy and maintenance record of a car. A person can put whatever standards as proof of quality that they want to. Since art is completely subjective, the standards are as well. And yes, popularity and sales can be one of those standards if one so chooses. So, sorry to burst your argument's bubble, but you're wrong. Thanks for admitting you'll twist things to suit your agenda. You have no standards.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2017 16:03:25 GMT
No, it's not "on par" with (you mean analogous to) either the incorrect or correct version of that particular phrase/idiom. So spare me the attempt to spar grammatically or conceptually. It kind of gives the impression you're actually incapable of understanding the phrase in question. To've "forgotten more than you'll ever know" implies that one's knowledge on a particular topic is so vast that even the small percentage of it that has escaped that person over time dramatically exceeds the total understanding of a subject by another, inferior individual -- in this instance, you, the moron to whom I am actually, literally sitting here typing out an explicit explanation of a well-known expression, you fucking imbecile. Perhaps if you actually provided examples of how the EU was so great and superior to the Potter books (beyond inserting images of the Thrawn trilogy) I'd believe that you actually know something about it. Instead, your posts make it seem that you know little or nothing. Perhaps if you weren't busy being a douche bag to everyone else you would've noticed that examples have been given and discussed.
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