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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 10, 2019 23:43:26 GMT
Except that Rodgers didn't cheat because Rodgers never actually used any deflated footballs in games Right you are. Rodgers didn't cheat because Rodgers never actually used deflated footballs. Rodgers cheated because he used overinflated footballs. Not in games. The refs checked the footballs that Rodgers used in games so the footballs that Rodgers used in games were within the legal limit and therefore Rodgers never cheated. Shady Brady had his equipment guy Jim "The Deflator" McNally deflate the footballs under the legal limit AFTER the refs checked the footballs so Shady Brady did use illegally-deflated footballs in games and therefore Shady Brady did cheat. BIG DIFFERENCE!
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Post by marsexplorer on Nov 10, 2019 23:44:49 GMT
So let me get this straight, both Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers were cheating, yet only Brady was punished? Can someone explain this to me please? Actually, there is zero evidence that Brady cheated. On May 11, 2015, the NFL announced that Tom Brady was suspended without pay for four games of the upcoming season for his involvement, based on "substantial and credible evidence" that Brady knew Patriots employees were deflating footballs and that he failed to cooperate with investigators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflategate
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Post by millar70 on Nov 10, 2019 23:54:21 GMT
And we've hit the magical 7th page of a thread featuring the same argument that you all have been having for what, 5-6 years now.
Love ya, DC-Fan......keep doing what you're doing!
Now wait.....Aaron Rodgers didn't over-inflate his footballs but Tom Brady did?
This is very confusing, let's do another 3 pages and figure this out. 🤔🏈💉😉
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 10, 2019 23:59:38 GMT
So let me get this straight, both Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers were cheating, yet only Brady was punished? Can someone explain this to me please? Actually, there is zero evidence that Brady cheated. Even if a ball boy did deflate the footballs in a bathroom, there has never been any evidence whatsoever that Brady told him to do it. It has only been assumed that a ball boy would have only done it if instructed by the legendary Tom Brady. Saying that Jim "The Deflator" McNally decided to deflate the footballs on his own without orders from Shady Brady is as stupid as saying the pilot who dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima decided to drop the bomb on his own without orders from Truman. Clearly, Jim "The Deflator" McNally deflated the footballs under orders from Shady Brady. Rodger admitted his scheme to gain an unfair advantage by sneaking overinflated footballs past the officials, and at other times rely on aiding and abetting officials to do his dirty work for him. Anyone who defends what Rodgers did has no business whining about someone else committing an equipment violation. 1st, like I said, since Rodgers gave the refs the footballs to check, that means Rodgers never actually used any illegal footballs in games and therefore Rodgers never cheated. Whereas Shady Brady ordered Jim "The Deflator" McNally to deflate the footballs AFTER the refs checked the footballs and then used the illegally deflated footballs in games and therefore Shady Brady did cheat. Since you Pats fans are really slow at understanding the difference, I'll explain it to you more simply. If 1 guy gets drunk at a bar and then gets into his car and drives home, he's committed a crime. If another guy gets drunk at a bar and then gets into his car but doesn't start the car, he hasn't committed any crime. To be charged with drunk driving, you have to actually drive the car. Likewise, to be considered cheating with illegal footballs, you have to actually use those illegal footballs in games. Rodgers never used illegal footballs in games so Rodgers never cheated. Shady Brady did use illegal footballs in games so Shady Brady did cheat. 2nd, using deflated footballs isn't simply an equipment violation. It's a blatant attempt to gain an illegal advantage.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2019 0:00:36 GMT
Actually, there is zero evidence that Brady cheated. On May 11, 2015, the NFL announced that Tom Brady was suspended without pay for four games of the upcoming season for his involvement, based on "substantial and credible evidence" that Brady knew Patriots employees were deflating footballs and that he failed to cooperate with investigators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflategate King Kong Shady just got owned!
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2019 0:03:48 GMT
Aaron Rodgers didn't over-inflate his footballs but Tom Brady did? Since Rodgers gave the footballs to the refs to check, that means Rodgers never actually used any illegal footballs in games and therefore Rodgers never cheated. Whereas Shady Brady ordered Jim "The Deflator" McNally to deflate the footballs AFTER the refs checked the footballs and then Shady Brady used those illegal footballs in games so Shady Brady did cheat. It's basically like if 1 guy gets drunk at a bar and then gets into his car and drives home, he's committed a crime. If another guy gets drunk at a bar and then gets into his car but doesn't start the car, he hasn't committed any crime. To be charged with drunk driving, you have to actually drive the car. Likewise, to be considered cheating with illegal footballs, you have to actually use those illegal footballs in games. Rodgers never used illegal footballs in games so Rodgers never cheated. Shady Brady did use illegal footballs in games so Shady Brady did cheat.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 11, 2019 0:18:28 GMT
Actually, there is zero evidence that Brady cheated. On May 11, 2015, the NFL announced that Tom Brady was suspended without pay for four games of the upcoming season for his involvement, based on "substantial and credible evidence" that Brady knew Patriots employees were deflating footballs and that he failed to cooperate with investigators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflategate Name the "credible" evidence. ... I'll save you a little time. There is none. It all based on an assumption by an organization that didn't know that temperature affects pressure.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 11, 2019 0:32:20 GMT
Saying that Jim "The Deflator" McNally decided to deflate the footballs on his own without orders from Shady Brady ... Thank you for admitting that there is zero evidence that Brady told the ballboy to deflate the footballs. It's all based on your faux-disbelief that a lazy and insubordinate ballboy might act on his own. BTW, Rodgers admitted that certain officials would over-inflate the footballs for him, so he did use illegal balls in a game. But, hey ... keep defending an admitted cheater. Your failure is hilarious!
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2019 1:12:31 GMT
Saying that Jim "The Deflator" McNally decided to deflate the footballs on his own without orders from Shady Brady ... Thank you for admitting that there is zero evidence that Brady told the ballboy to deflate the footballs. As marsexplorer already posted: On May 11, 2015, the NFL announced that Tom Brady was suspended without pay for four games of the upcoming season for his involvement, based on "substantial and credible evidence" that Brady knew Patriots employees were deflating footballs and that he failed to cooperate with investigators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflategate
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Post by damngumby on Nov 11, 2019 3:38:44 GMT
Thank you for admitting that there is zero evidence that Brady told the ballboy to deflate the footballs. As marsexplorer already posted: On May 11, 2015, the NFL announced that Tom Brady was suspended without pay for four games of the upcoming season for his involvement, based on "substantial and credible evidence" that Brady knew Patriots employees were deflating footballs and that he failed to cooperate with investigators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflategate You can't name the evidence either!  I should just sit back and watch you exonerate Tom Brady via your own stupidity, every time you post.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2019 3:57:13 GMT
As marsexplorer already posted: On May 11, 2015, the NFL announced that Tom Brady was suspended without pay for four games of the upcoming season for his involvement, based on "substantial and credible evidence" that Brady knew Patriots employees were deflating footballs and that he failed to cooperate with investigators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeflategateYou can't name the evidence either! I should just sit back and watch you exonerate Tom Brady via your own stupidity, every time you post. The evidence is Shady Brady destroying the evidence by destroying his cell phone. The law considers destruction of evidence to be a sign of guilt because only a guilty person would destroy evidence.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 11, 2019 4:21:13 GMT
You can't name the evidence either! I should just sit back and watch you exonerate Tom Brady via your own stupidity, every time you post. The evidence is Shady Brady destroying the evidence by destroying his cell phone. The law considers destruction of evidence to be a sign of guilt because only a guilty person would destroy evidence. LOL! Very weak sauce, Ace. Particularly after Wells told Brady that the phone wasn't going to used as evidence. At this point, I think you've completely exonerated Brady. Fine work!
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Post by millar70 on Nov 11, 2019 4:30:44 GMT
The evidence is Shady Brady destroying the evidence by destroying his cell phone. The law considers destruction of evidence to be a sign of guilt because only a guilty person would destroy evidence. LOL! Very weak sauce, Ace. Particularly after Wells told Brady that the phone wasn't going to used as evidence. At this point, I think you've completely exonerated Brady. Fine work! I'm not totally convinced, we could probably use a few more pages discussing this incredibly important subject of our times. So were the Patriots taping other teams practices while they were also messing with the footballs, or did the inflating stuff happen afterwards? |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 11, 2019 12:45:48 GMT
My final post on this topic because it's a pointless argument and I think we respect each other enough to agree to disagree here. Overinflating the ball is against the rules. The only difference between that and what the Patriots were accused of is timing. In both cases someone is trying to circumvent the rules. One scenario has a guy cheating first and hoping the officials won't notice so he can gain an advantage while the other one is waiting until after the officials look away to cheat to gain an advantage. The only difference to me are the odds of success. No, masterofallgoons _is correct. There's a big difference between what Rodgers did (giving the refs under-inflated footballs to check) and what Shady Brady did (having his equipment guy covertly deflate the footballs after the refs checked the footballs). In Rodgers' case, since he gave the footballs to the refs to check, the refs would've made sure that any footballs that Rodgers used in the game had the appropriate PSIs. That means Rodgers never actually used deflated footballs in a game and thus didn't cheat. In Shady Brady's case, Brady had his equipment guy covertly deflate the footballs after the refs checked the footballs and then Brady used those illegally deflated footballs in games. So Brady did cheat. BIG DIFFERENCE! Big difference indeed. Rodgers actually had the balls tampered with, Brady didn't.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 11, 2019 12:54:45 GMT
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2019 17:52:51 GMT
No, masterofallgoons _is correct. There's a big difference between what Rodgers did (giving the refs under-inflated footballs to check) and what Shady Brady did (having his equipment guy covertly deflate the footballs after the refs checked the footballs). In Rodgers' case, since he gave the footballs to the refs to check, the refs would've made sure that any footballs that Rodgers used in the game had the appropriate PSIs. That means Rodgers never actually used deflated footballs in a game and thus didn't cheat. In Shady Brady's case, Brady had his equipment guy covertly deflate the footballs after the refs checked the footballs and then Brady used those illegally deflated footballs in games. So Brady did cheat. BIG DIFFERENCE! Big difference indeed. Rodgers actually had the balls tampered with, Brady didn't. Shady Brady not only ordered his equipment guy Jim "The Deflator" McNally to tamper with the footballs after the refs checked them, but also Shady Brady is the only one who actually used the tampered footballs in a game.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 11, 2019 17:54:06 GMT
Big difference indeed. Rodgers actually had the balls tampered with, Brady didn't. Shady Brady not only ordered his equipment guy Jim "The Deflator" McNally to tamper with the footballs after the refs checked them, but also Shady Brady is the only one who actually used the tampered footballs in a game. Nope. Try doing something constructive with your life instead of repeating the same inaccuracies ad nauseum.
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 11, 2019 19:40:03 GMT
Big difference indeed. Rodgers actually had the balls tampered with, Brady didn't. Shady Brady not only ordered his equipment guy Jim "The Deflator" McNally to tamper with the footballs after the refs checked them, but also Shady Brady is the only one who actually used the tampered footballs in a game. According to the biased NFL and their bought and paid for errand boys: It was "more likely than not" that Brady was "generally aware." Really? Bought and paid for errand boys and the BEST their faux evidence allowed them to say was "more likely than not" and "generally aware?" This kind of persecution would end up requiring quite the government payout under any other circumstances. |
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Post by damngumby on Nov 11, 2019 20:13:47 GMT
Big difference indeed. Rodgers actually had the balls tampered with, Brady didn't. Shady Brady not only ordered his equipment guy Jim "The Deflator" McNally to tamper with the footballs after the refs checked them, but also Shady Brady is the only one who actually used the tampered footballs in a game. I believe this is the usual point in a thread where dcfan stomps his feet and just repeats his fairy tales until everyone loses interest and moves on.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 11, 2019 20:16:41 GMT
Guys. Seriously. Shut the fuck up. All of you.
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