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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 17, 2018 12:57:36 GMT
I think Nolan's intention was very much to have representatives standing in for each group that impacted the battle. It's a pretty common war trope. The difference is he sticks with these individuals to focus on the ironies/failures/successes of war rather than reflecting on the horrors of war by bombast. The movie would be too routine for a Nolan production and he wouldn't have even bothered if he were to just do a Saving Private Ryan version of it. However, I do think he expands the picture. It was very clear that a bunch of ordinary people helped with the evacuation, he just focused on one boat to tell their story. I think it's a very interesting way to tell the story. I loved the time compression into one story. I loved the quiet sacrifices made just by people doing what they do. Far be it for me to say that Britain can't be a little upset about the portrayal if it is indeed a negative one. I don't see how but I'm coming at it from a different perspective than patriotism. It wasn't patriotism that made me not dislike, but be disappointed with the film. I felt it had no heart. I can get that, but I just think it had emotional heft. |
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Post by Morgana on Jun 17, 2018 13:29:22 GMT
It wasn't patriotism that made me not dislike, but be disappointed with the film. I felt it had no heart. I can get that, but I just think it had emotional heft. On the thread I made about the film, a lot of people felt the way you and Marv did. There were people that agreed with me too. It's funny how differently people can perceive the same thing. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 17, 2018 13:47:24 GMT
I can get that, but I just think it had emotional heft. On the thread I made about the film, a lot of people felt the way you and Marv did. There were people that agreed with me too. It's funny how differently people can perceive the same thing. That's one of the reasons I brought up nationality. I also think how one views war and soldier movies in general affects perception. Still there are movies that people like more than others. I hate Hurt Locker and others love it enough to make it a Best Picture. |
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Post by Morgana on Jun 17, 2018 20:21:03 GMT
On the thread I made about the film, a lot of people felt the way you and Marv did. There were people that agreed with me too. It's funny how differently people can perceive the same thing. That's one of the reasons I brought up nationality. I also think how one views war and soldier movies in general affects perception. Still there are movies that people like more than others. I hate Hurt Locker and others love it enough to make it a Best Picture. I loved The Hurt Locker. Proves both our points, doesn't it?  |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 17, 2018 20:35:24 GMT
That's one of the reasons I brought up nationality. I also think how one views war and soldier movies in general affects perception. Still there are movies that people like more than others. I hate Hurt Locker and others love it enough to make it a Best Picture. I loved The Hurt Locker. Proves both our points, doesn't it? To me, Hurt Locker attempted to do what Dunkirk successfully did, but instead decided to turn into a video game. |
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Post by Morgana on Jun 17, 2018 21:07:39 GMT
I loved The Hurt Locker. Proves both our points, doesn't it? To me, Hurt Locker attempted to do what Dunkirk successfully did, but instead decided to turn into a video game. I disagree. Hurt Locker had me almost biting my nails in some parts. I was so afraid of what might happen. To me, that's engaging the viewer. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 17, 2018 21:17:21 GMT
To me, Hurt Locker attempted to do what Dunkirk successfully did, but instead decided to turn into a video game. I disagree. Hurt Locker had me almost biting my nails in some parts. I was so afraid of what might happen. To me, that's engaging the viewer. I don't see how it could be considered a nailbiter. It was a level 1 boss battle to a level 10 boss battle. It's entirely possible he could've died by the last one, but by then it wouldn't have been shocking or even mattered. To be clear, it did engage me until I realized what it was doing and then I lost interest. |
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Post by Marv on Jun 17, 2018 21:49:59 GMT
On the thread I made about the film, a lot of people felt the way you and Marv did. There were people that agreed with me too. It's funny how differently people can perceive the same thing. That's one of the reasons I brought up nationality. I also think how one views war and soldier movies in general affects perception. Still there are movies that people like more than others. I hate Hurt Locker and others love it enough to make it a Best Picture. Funny you mention nationality because I have a few friends who saw the film and didn’t like it. Their reaction was something close to...’I’m sure British people liked it, it’s their history, I just didn’t care for it.’ I find it kind of an odd position. Sure the majority of War films I am exposed to come through Hollywood so most of them are about the US involvement in whatever war...but the themes are all pretty universal and it’s not like it’s some non English speaking constantly have to read subtitle perspective. It’s England. |
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Post by Marv on Jun 17, 2018 21:51:53 GMT
To me, Hurt Locker attempted to do what Dunkirk successfully did, but instead decided to turn into a video game. I disagree. Hurt Locker had me almost biting my nails in some parts. I was so afraid of what might happen. To me, that's engaging the viewer. I thought Hurt Locker was pretty good until they went behind enemy lines to kill some dude, or whatever they were doing. The bomb defusing scenes were cool...but once they set out for revenge or whatever it kind of changed the entire tone of the film. |
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Post by Moviefan on Jun 18, 2018 0:52:19 GMT
I went and saw Incredibles 2 today. It was great. The action was spectacular and the animation was wonderful. Great screenplay too. It went a little long at times and there were a couple things that were a little predictable, but overall I loved it. I think Incredibles 2 is even better than the original. 9/10.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 18, 2018 10:14:35 GMT
Lost in LondonWoody Harrelson's personal project (director, writer, actor) is a welcome addition to the small, but slowly growing, genre of one-take movies. It takes the actor, playing a fictionalised version of himself, through a series of increasingly fraught scrapes in London's small hours, over a number of locations, including a meeting with Willie Nelson in a prison cell. Part of the fun is that one inevitably holds one's breath for, without meticulous planning, a single slip and it would all have to be done over again. Best moment: Harrelson and Owen Wilson in an nightclub, pugnaciously comparing notes over which of their respective films they think worst. www.imdb.com/title/tt6338476/reference The CommuterPreposterous yes, but highly enjoyable, Liam Neeson's latest finds His Toughness as just a regular working stiff en route to the office... until he is suddenly faced with a desperate course of events: to save his wife, he has to identify a complete stranger on the train and remove an object from their possession. Collet-Sera's ( The Shallows, The Orphan) direction carries us along like an unstoppable train itself as the increasingly fraught Neeson searches the train for clues and people. The film includes probably one of the best carriage fights since Bond vs Grant. Since reinventing himself as an action man with The Taken, the always-watchable Neeson's annual B-thriller output has been of a consistency underestimated by critics of popular culture imho, and the present film is one of the highlights. He's just been announced as playing Philip Marlowe. www.imdb.com/title/tt1590193/reference
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Post by Morgana on Jun 18, 2018 11:00:14 GMT
I disagree. Hurt Locker had me almost biting my nails in some parts. I was so afraid of what might happen. To me, that's engaging the viewer. I don't see how it could be considered a nailbiter. It was a level 1 boss battle to a level 10 boss battle. It's entirely possible he could've died by the last one, but by then it wouldn't have been shocking or even mattered. To be clear, it did engage me until I realized what it was doing and then I lost interest. Perhaps 'nailbiting' wasn't the best term to use. 'Tense' might have expressed it better. (I was in a rush when I replied yesterday.) I felt a sense of dread throughout because I didn't know, whenever they went out on a mission, if they would get blown up or not. Since I don't play video games that have boss battles, I didn't see it as one. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 18, 2018 14:36:30 GMT
That's one of the reasons I brought up nationality. I also think how one views war and soldier movies in general affects perception. Still there are movies that people like more than others. I hate Hurt Locker and others love it enough to make it a Best Picture. Funny you mention nationality because I have a few friends who saw the film and didn’t like it. Their reaction was something close to...’I’m sure British people liked it, it’s their history, I just didn’t care for it.’ I find it kind of an odd position. Sure the majority of War films I am exposed to come through Hollywood so most of them are about the US involvement in whatever war...but the themes are all pretty universal and it’s not like it’s some non English speaking constantly have to read subtitle perspective. It’s England. I mention it primarily because I don't think this film is set up like a traditional war movie. It's not Saving Private Ryan so I can understand if some British people actually thought the movie could have been done in more heroic fashion and especially since it was such a big event that much of the world never even heard of.
The soldiers aren't really shown as brave as overtly the pilot or the civilians and yet I understood the point to be that the simple act of keeping resolve or surviving in the face of impossible odds is in itself pretty heroic.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 18, 2018 14:40:03 GMT
I don't see how it could be considered a nailbiter. It was a level 1 boss battle to a level 10 boss battle. It's entirely possible he could've died by the last one, but by then it wouldn't have been shocking or even mattered. To be clear, it did engage me until I realized what it was doing and then I lost interest. Perhaps 'nailbiting' wasn't the best term to use. 'Tense' might have expressed it better. (I was in a rush when I replied yesterday.) I felt a sense of dread throughout because I didn't know, whenever they went out on a mission, if they would get blown up or not. Since I don't play video games that have boss battles, I didn't see it as one. It reminded me of a video game called Shadow of the Colossus where the whole game is nothing but boss battles that are progressively more difficult.
I found the plot to be too convenient in the escalation of danger this guy faced. While anyone could have been collateral damage, I did not believe that the main character would die until possibly the end.
As much as I didn't care for Hurt Locker, I think Hurt Locker 2 would have been an interesting movie.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 18, 2018 14:49:31 GMT
I forgot to mention the second show
The Handmaid's Tale - Definitely the most depressing show on TV.
I like the way they expanded the world of this show in this season, and the production values are as good as anything on TV.
My problem with this show has to do with pacing. It's not the best show for binging as it seems the motivations repeat themselves which can be forgotten week to week, but not hour to hour. June has given at least 4 end statements about how she will not give up , but each a lot of the episode have her giving up until the end statement as if she was never determined before.
That said, almost all the episodes have had brilliant scenes and last week's episode was probably my favorite.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 18, 2018 17:44:29 GMT
Bladerunner 2049 - Truly beautiful moive. I could look at it all day. The story was fine, the nusic even finer an d I liked all the little touches. Joe had a little wooden horse and he was called rich, but the bad guy had a whole house made out of wood lol.
The acting was not the reason to watch this movie. However, I have a newfound crush in Joi. Without her, I'm pretty sure I would have disliked this movie more. And it's not just that she's very pretty, she just has the right amount of hopefulness in an otherwise pretty bleak movie to infect the whole movie.
The Big Sick - This movie is adorable. I think it is almost perfectly written although it runs a smidge long. It wasa pleasant surprise becase I had misunderstood the plot all this time. I thought it was about an already married couple going through a life or death experience. In reality, it's about a boy and a girl who broke up and boy finds out how much he loves girl while she's dying.
That makes it much more like a rom-com except the boy is unintentionally wooing the parents. Speaking of which, Holly Hunter & Ray Romano are absolutely fantastic. How did they not get nominated?
One other thing, Kumal's parents try to arrange a marriage for him throughut the movie and I gotta say I would take this lady:
Do I want to hang out sometime? Uh, yes. please!
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Post by Vegas on Jun 19, 2018 0:45:49 GMT
The Big Sick - This movie is adorable.
I really enjoyed that one. |
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Post by Marv on Jun 19, 2018 1:45:37 GMT
Finished my first run through on DETROIT BECOME HUMAN...Great story. This is one of those games that you watch more than you play. It’s basically an interactive tv show or movie, where the choices you make can alter the outcome drastically. I wanted the happiest possible ending on my first play through and I think I came about as close as I could’ve hoped for. All my main characters survived and the Android revolution ended peacefully with minimal losses and hope for a bright future. I can count a handful of times the potential wrong decisions I made, in hindsight of course. There’s an interesting mechanic in the game where after each scene your shown the flow chart of decisions that let you know where things could’ve gone differently, but it doesn’t show you if the other outcomes are better or worse until you choose them. So this time through I made Markus a peaceful leader of the resistance, had Connor go full deviant and join the android cause, and managed to get Kara Luther and Alice all safely to Canada.
I think on my next play through I want Markus to be more militaristic toward humanity, just to see if I can have the android conquer the world.
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Post by Marv on Jun 25, 2018 7:02:36 GMT
Spider-Man Homecoming...it was good. Kinda geared toward kids, even more so than other mcu films, but that kinda makes sense with the main hero being a teen. Liked the inclusion of several villains like Vulture, Shocker (even tho he didn’t have his classic suit) and a cameo by Mac Gargan not in scorpion suit yet. It worked. Really pushed the normal life versus superhero problem that resonates with Parker forever. Took a different direction with lots of supporting characters, like Flash and I know it’s not the real MJ but MJ.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 25, 2018 11:14:51 GMT
I forgot to mention the second show The Handmaid's Tale - Definitely the most depressing show on TV. I like the way they expanded the world of this show in this season, and the production values are as good as anything on TV. My problem with this show has to do with pacing. It's not the best show for binging as it seems the motivations repeat themselves which can be forgotten week to week, but not hour to hour. June has given at least 4 end statements about how she will not give up , but each a lot of the episode have her giving up until the end statement as if she was never determined before. That said, almost all the episodes have had brilliant scenes and last week's episode was probably my favorite. That's where I am regarding the show. I enjoyed season 1 more because, as you said, the pacing in season 2 hasn't been great. I feel like it's stuck in a wash, rinse and repeat mode right now. |
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