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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 31, 2020 18:44:00 GMT
Logan is more re-watchable, but Joker is technically the better movie. And that performance!
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Post by movielover on Mar 11, 2021 17:30:25 GMT
Joker
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Post by Vits on Mar 11, 2021 18:05:41 GMT
LOGAN - 8/10
JOKER - 9/10
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Post by moviemeisters on Mar 11, 2021 19:07:36 GMT
I like Joker a lot, but it’s not even the best film that year to tackle the same subject matter. Ultimately, it felt like a lesser (but still good) Taxi Driver.
I’m a sucker for Western tropes and Logan certainly delivers on that front. It’s not a perfect movie, but I was more invested in that story over Joker’s. It was nice send-off for the Wolverine character and the Fox X-Men universe as a whole (too bad they messed it up with more movies).
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Post by James on Mar 11, 2021 19:40:34 GMT
This competition became tighter than my jeans that I haven’t worn in 2-3 years.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 11, 2021 20:19:16 GMT
While Joker was well-made and featured a great performance, Logan easily takes the cake for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 20:54:17 GMT
I've changed my vote from Logan to Joker, making it a 20-20 tie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 21:14:49 GMT
Logan is far and away better. It actually has a point. The point was that poor economic conditions, the lack of mental health care, and the indifference of the rich created supervillainy in Gotham, and that can't and won't be fixed by another rich guy beating them up. At least that's how I interpreted it. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 11, 2021 21:18:17 GMT
Logan is far and away better. It actually has a point. The point was that poor economic conditions, the lack of mental health care, and the indifference of the rich created supervillainy in Gotham, and that can't and won't be fixed by another rich guy beating them up. At least that's how I interpreted it. Would you argue Joker was a Marxist critique of capitalism?
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Post by Downey on Mar 11, 2021 21:19:44 GMT
Logan is far and away better. It actually has a point. The point was that poor economic conditions, the lack of mental health care, and the indifference of the rich created supervillainy in Gotham, and that can't and won't be fixed by another rich guy beating them up. At least that's how I interpreted it. The rich guy beating them up who I assume you mean is Batman clearly did the job well and instilled fear into the hearts of many a villain. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Mar 11, 2021 21:28:04 GMT
Logan changed the rules and I am fine with that. It is about old age, reflection and death as moviebuffbrad said. Charles Xavier has something akin to dementia. most of the mutants have been killed off by the reavers.
It's been awhile since I've seen the flick... so, I might have it wrong... but: I thought it was implied that most of the mutants being dead was due to Professor X's dementia causing him to lose control of his powers and causing psychic waves of destruction.. and killing them.  Give that man a cigar. I thought I was the only one who heard that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 21:40:39 GMT
The point was that poor economic conditions, the lack of mental health care, and the indifference of the rich created supervillainy in Gotham, and that can't and won't be fixed by another rich guy beating them up. At least that's how I interpreted it. Would you argue Joker was a Marxist critique of capitalism? Probably the biggest to come out of mainstream Hollywood in years. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 11, 2021 21:47:48 GMT
The point was that poor economic conditions, the lack of mental health care, and the indifference of the rich created supervillainy in Gotham, and that can't and won't be fixed by another rich guy beating them up. At least that's how I interpreted it. The rich guy beating them up who I assume you mean is Batman clearly did the job well and instilled fear into the hearts of many a villain. Except for Joker, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Catwoman, Ra's Al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, The Riddler...
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Post by Downey on Mar 11, 2021 21:53:09 GMT
The rich guy beating them up who I assume you mean is Batman clearly did the job well and instilled fear into the hearts of many a villain. Except for Joker, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Catwoman, Ra's Al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, The Riddler... The user I replied to with that comment likes to think he's a rebel which is why that comment was meant in jest, these people in Gotham have the choice to leave that city and make something of themselves in the wider world instead of blaming Batman for the fuck ups they've made in their own lives like Movienotbuffbrad. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 22:05:24 GMT
Except for Joker, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Catwoman, Ra's Al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, The Riddler... The user I replied to with that comment likes to think he's a rebel which is why that comment was meant in jest, these people in Gotham have the choice to leave that city and make something of themselves in the wider world instead of blaming Batman for the fuck ups they've made in their own lives like Movienotbuffbrad. Good one. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 11, 2021 22:06:43 GMT
This seems like a random thread to bump.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 11, 2021 22:12:34 GMT
The user I replied to with that comment likes to think he's a rebel which is why that comment was meant in jest, these people in Gotham have the choice to leave that city and make something of themselves in the wider world instead of blaming Batman for the fuck ups they've made in their own lives like Movienotbuffbrad. Good one. Come on dude, that was so witty and clever, instead of calling you "Moviebuffbrad", he called you....Movie notbuffbrad! Damn, did you feel that sting!
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Post by Downey on Mar 11, 2021 22:16:23 GMT
Come on dude, that was so witty and clever, instead of calling you "Moviebuffbrad", he called you....Movie notbuffbrad! Damn, did you feel that sting! Not much gets past you does it? Regular Einstein over here.😂 |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 11, 2021 22:17:23 GMT
Except for Joker, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Catwoman, Ra's Al Ghul, Bane, Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, The Riddler... The user I replied to with that comment likes to think he's a rebel which is why that comment was meant in jest, these people in Gotham have the choice to leave that city and make something of themselves in the wider world instead of blaming Batman for the fuck ups they've made in their own lives like Movienotbuffbrad. If were appying real world sociology and data and not ape brain movie logic, that's actually not really how it works.
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Post by Downey on Mar 11, 2021 22:21:23 GMT
The user I replied to with that comment likes to think he's a rebel which is why that comment was meant in jest, these people in Gotham have the choice to leave that city and make something of themselves in the wider world instead of blaming Batman for the fuck ups they've made in their own lives like Movienotbuffbrad. If were appying real world sociology and data and not ape brain movie logic, that's actually not really how it works. No, that's actually how it works you look around you and if you see no hope, you leave for something better. Alternatively you can think like a pig and remain in the mud for the rest of your life like most cretins would. |
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