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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on Apr 26, 2017 22:56:57 GMT
Samhmd is a TROLL who is positively obsessed with these X-Men films despite how much he supposedly hates them.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 26, 2017 22:57:32 GMT
No, I just think they're outdated and haven't kept up with the times. They're still thinking it's the year 2000.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 26, 2017 22:58:15 GMT
Yes, I do. The FoX-Moviemakers have shown they don't care for continuity so why trust them now? I know they won't have the balls to do the Shi'Ar stuff. So you think the 90s animated didn't care about continuity? A studio that is known for alien films doesn't have the balls to allow that? Lol
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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on Apr 26, 2017 23:05:13 GMT
I have no idea what would be so great about an X-Men universe that is similar to the MCU. It would take all of the heart this series has accumulated over the years and flush it down the toilet. OOOOHG! Now, the X-Men are pull-string toys just like Iron Man and Thor. YAY! Now, they can sell toys. I mean, how old are you people? Why do you refuse to ask more from your movies? That scene on the plane where Xavier finally confront Magneto about crippling him was far more emotional. deep and dramatic than anything in the MCU. That scene alone put that movie in A-class territory.
Anyway, I love the old cast and I like the new cast. I refuse to see Sophie or any of the fresh faces as bad actors because they really didn't get a lot of chances to shine in Apocalypse. I mean, they only had two hours. BUT I believe they can get a lot more out of these actors in the upcoming films. And I can't wait.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 27, 2017 0:29:10 GMT
Yes, I do. The FoX-Moviemakers have shown they don't care for continuity so why trust them now? I know they won't have the balls to do the Shi'Ar stuff. So you think the 90s animated didn't care about continuity? A studio that is known for alien films doesn't have the balls to allow that? Lol No, the Fox Animated show wasn't that good with continuity. And no, the "grounded" way the movies are done wouldn't allow for aliens or anything cool.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 27, 2017 0:30:22 GMT
I have no idea what would be so great about an X-Men universe that is similar to the MCU. It would take all of the heart this series has accumulated over the years and flush it down the toilet. OOOOHG! Now, the X-Men are pull-string toys just like Iron Man and Thor. YAY! Now, they can sell toys. I mean, how old are you people? Why do you refuse to ask more from your movies? That scene on the plane where Xavier finally confront Magneto about crippling him was far more emotional. deep and dramatic than anything in the MCU. That scene alone put that movie in A-class territory. Being like the MCU means they'd embrace the comics instead of running away from them, for one.
That scene with Xavier and Magneto on the plane was just the usual nonsense. You want a good conversation, go for something like Steve and Dr Erskine in First Avenger.
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Post by Lee on Apr 27, 2017 21:33:49 GMT
Don't to this formersamhmd idiot. He is just one of this stupid trolls from old imdb boards.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 27, 2017 21:42:50 GMT
Don't to this formersamhmd idiot. He is just one of this stupid trolls from old imdb boards. Calm down Francis, not everyone enjoys CBMs that sell-out and go for something insulting like a "grounded" approach.
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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on May 1, 2017 6:24:37 GMT
"That scene with Xavier and Magneto on the plane was just the usual nonsense. You want a good conversation, go for something like Steve and Dr Erskine in First Avenger."
LOL. I can barely remember that scene or ANY specific scene in the first Captain America. It was just so flat and uninteresting.
If you actually knew anything about cinematography, you would appreciate that scene in DOFP more for capturing that painting behind Xavier so beautifully.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 13:10:48 GMT
"That scene with Xavier and Magneto on the plane was just the usual nonsense. You want a good conversation, go for something like Steve and Dr Erskine in First Avenger." LOL. I can barely remember that scene or ANY specific scene in the first Captain America. It was just so flat and uninteresting. If you actually knew anything about cinematography, you would appreciate that scene in DOFP more for capturing that painting behind Xavier so beautifully. Not "grounded" enough for you? Not enough Holocaust references? Too much embracing their comic-bookiness instead of selling out the way X-Men did? Xavier and Magneto are little more than caricatures in DOFP, compared to Rogers. Sad.
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Post by charzhino on May 1, 2017 20:04:25 GMT
"That scene with Xavier and Magneto on the plane was just the usual nonsense. You want a good conversation, go for something like Steve and Dr Erskine in First Avenger." LOL. I can barely remember that scene or ANY specific scene in the first Captain America. It was just so flat and uninteresting. If you actually knew anything about cinematography, you would appreciate that scene in DOFP more for capturing that painting behind Xavier so beautifully. Not "grounded" enough for you? Not enough Holocaust references? Too much embracing their comic-bookiness instead of selling out the way X-Men did? Xavier and Magneto are little more than caricatures in DOFP, compared to Rogers. Sad. Nah the plane scene in DOFP is just a well constructed scene of dialogue which fits in the context of the films narrative. Its consequences have a genuine meaning unlike post modern MCU fake arguments such as in Civil War between Stark and Rogers. Any so called dramatic conflict scene they share early on in the film is rendered useless by the end as Rogers sends a letter of apology and says he has his back. Sorry not buying it. Charles and Magneto have real conflict, not pretend.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 20:40:48 GMT
Not "grounded" enough for you? Not enough Holocaust references? Too much embracing their comic-bookiness instead of selling out the way X-Men did? Xavier and Magneto are little more than caricatures in DOFP, compared to Rogers. Sad. Nah the plane scene in DOFP is just a well constructed scene of dialogue which fits in the context of the films narrative. Its consequences have a genuine meaning unlike post modern MCU fake arguments such as in Civil War between Stark and Rogers. Any so called dramatic conflict scene they share early on in the film is rendered useless by the end as Rogers sends a letter of apology and says he has his back. Sorry not buying it. Charles and Magneto have real conflict, not pretend. No it isn't. Magneto and his people were murderous terrorists, and he expects Xavier to give a damn about them when a lot of Magneto's people killed Xaviers' students. It's idiotic that he'd expect sympathy.
What's worse is Charles never points this out and even lets Erik get away scott-free at the end, making him an accessory to terrorism. Like a fool.
Steve isn't as irresponsible as Charles, which is why he sent Tony that phone.
Magneto and Charles ran their course as characters long ago.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 4, 2017 14:26:51 GMT
I have no idea what would be so great about an X-Men universe that is similar to the MCU. It would take all of the heart this series has accumulated over the years and flush it down the toilet. OOOOHG! Now, the X-Men are pull-string toys just like Iron Man and Thor. YAY! Now, they can sell toys. I mean, how old are you people? Why do you refuse to ask more from your movies? That scene on the plane where Xavier finally confront Magneto about crippling him was far more emotional. deep and dramatic than anything in the MCU. That scene alone put that movie in A-class territory. Being like the MCU means they'd embrace the comics instead of running away from them, for one.
That scene with Xavier and Magneto on the plane was just the usual nonsense. You want a good conversation, go for something like Steve and Dr Erskine in First Avenger.
Iron Fist fans disagree.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 4, 2017 15:54:32 GMT
Being like the MCU means they'd embrace the comics instead of running away from them, for one.
That scene with Xavier and Magneto on the plane was just the usual nonsense. You want a good conversation, go for something like Steve and Dr Erskine in First Avenger.
Iron Fist fans disagree. I watched the Iron Fist show, I don't think it was anything spectacular but I do think it wasn't THAT bad. Anyways, the rest of the MCU makes up for it. Which is more than I can say for the XCU. Enough of this "Mutant Registration" plot, give me costumes give me aliens and give me more than Magneto.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 17:34:50 GMT
Don't to this formersamhmd idiot. He is just one of this stupid trolls from old imdb boards. No, that would be you.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 5, 2017 1:42:51 GMT
Pretty much all the X-Films are just the same one plot Singer did in X-Men back in 2000. If he had any balls he'd have gotten away from Xavier and Magneto and told more stories about the other X-Men. And don't bring up Mystique, that was solely because Jennifer Lawrence became bankable between First Class and DOFP. Yeah, you're not getting it. Read this: stay-tuned-true-believers.tumblr.com/post/159342346447/x-men-beasts-theory-on-time-travel-was-rightAnd Xavier was barely in the original trilogy. Isn't Beasts theory on time travel just an excuse to have them keep retelling the same stories? They, right away, go back into Phoenix. They didn't even miss a beat. The OT was them building up to Dark Phoenix. No other steps. Just Phoenix. They make a movie to "reboot" the series then the next movie they start the OT process again. No Genosha and do a story about keeping mutants as slaves? No Morlocks and a story on regular mutants (nonBrotherhood) that has to live outside of society? Just right back to Phoenix? That's all they have in their tank? I mean, X-men Apocalypse was basically the same movie as X1 if Singer had a bigger budget.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 5, 2017 20:00:20 GMT
Isn't Beasts theory on time travel just an excuse to have them keep retelling the same stories? They, right away, go back into Phoenix. They didn't even miss a beat. The OT was them building up to Dark Phoenix. No other steps. Just Phoenix. They make a movie to "reboot" the series then the next movie they start the OT process again. No Genosha and do a story about keeping mutants as slaves? No Morlocks and a story on regular mutants (nonBrotherhood) that has to live outside of society? Just right back to Phoenix? That's all they have in their tank? I mean, X-men Apocalypse was basically the same movie as X1 if Singer had a bigger budget. Singer doesn't really view it as a reboot. The sole purpose of DOFP was to untold X3 because it wasted the Phoenix story as an undeveloped subplot because Tom Rothman was a pussy. That was obvious from the get-go. Seems like they must of heard about the stuff done with Jean in All-New X-Men and took inspiration.
Oh and X-Men: Apocalypse was modeled after The Horsemen & Apocalypse. Didn't miss a beat with that storyline.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 5, 2017 21:30:23 GMT
Isn't Beasts theory on time travel just an excuse to have them keep retelling the same stories? They, right away, go back into Phoenix. They didn't even miss a beat. The OT was them building up to Dark Phoenix. No other steps. Just Phoenix. They make a movie to "reboot" the series then the next movie they start the OT process again. No Genosha and do a story about keeping mutants as slaves? No Morlocks and a story on regular mutants (nonBrotherhood) that has to live outside of society? Just right back to Phoenix? That's all they have in their tank? I mean, X-men Apocalypse was basically the same movie as X1 if Singer had a bigger budget. Singer doesn't really view it as a reboot. The sole purpose of DOFP was to untold X3 because it wasted the Phoenix story as an undeveloped subplot because Tom Rothman was a pussy. That was obvious from the get-go. Seems like they must of heard about the stuff done with Jean in All-New X-Men and took inspiration.
Oh and X-Men: Apocalypse was modeled after The Horsemen & Apocalypse. Didn't miss a beat with that storyline.
So basically Singer was an egomaniac who had no respect for someone else's work and wanted to erase it all and restore the status quo because X3 changed things too much.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 5, 2017 22:15:31 GMT
Isn't Beasts theory on time travel just an excuse to have them keep retelling the same stories? They, right away, go back into Phoenix. They didn't even miss a beat. The OT was them building up to Dark Phoenix. No other steps. Just Phoenix. They make a movie to "reboot" the series then the next movie they start the OT process again. No Genosha and do a story about keeping mutants as slaves? No Morlocks and a story on regular mutants (nonBrotherhood) that has to live outside of society? Just right back to Phoenix? That's all they have in their tank? I mean, X-men Apocalypse was basically the same movie as X1 if Singer had a bigger budget. Singer doesn't really view it as a reboot. The sole purpose of DOFP was to untold X3 because it wasted the Phoenix story as an undeveloped subplot because Tom Rothman was a pussy. That was obvious from the get-go. Seems like they must of heard about the stuff done with Jean in All-New X-Men and took inspiration.
Oh and X-Men: Apocalypse was modeled after The Horsemen & Apocalypse. Didn't miss a beat with that storyline.
Doesn't matter what they modeled it from. All the movies are mad libs of the same plot points. It's like Star Wars with TFA, but 4 times. He figured this was the 1st real X-men movie of the prequels so he he took a lot of stuff from the 1st OT X-men movie and put it in this. He even replaced Rogue with Xavier. I knew what was going to happen in Apocalypse, not from a story standpoint, but from how they did all the X-men movies up to that point. The XCU really needs more of a singular path told from multiple visions. What I mean by singular path is that they can't just randomly make movies. You get multiple timelines like Deadpool and Logan stemming off of the main one. Instead of them being a part of it.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 6, 2017 18:37:36 GMT
Singer doesn't really view it as a reboot. The sole purpose of DOFP was to untold X3 because it wasted the Phoenix story as an undeveloped subplot because Tom Rothman was a pussy. That was obvious from the get-go. Seems like they must of heard about the stuff done with Jean in All-New X-Men and took inspiration.
Oh and X-Men: Apocalypse was modeled after The Horsemen & Apocalypse. Didn't miss a beat with that storyline.
Doesn't matter what they modeled it from. All the movies are mad libs of the same plot points. It's like Star Wars with TFA, but 4 times. He figured this was the 1st real X-men movie of the prequels so he he took a lot of stuff from the 1st OT X-men movie and put it in this. He even replaced Rogue with Xavier. I knew what was going to happen in Apocalypse, not from a story standpoint, but from how they did all the X-men movies up to that point. The XCU really needs more of a singular path told from multiple visions. What I mean by singular path is that they can't just randomly make movies. You get multiple timelines like Deadpool and Logan stemming off of the main one. Instead of them being a part of it. Not really. Singer was trying to mirror Giant Size X-Men. Where the newer X-Men tried to save the First Class. Xavier was a replacement for Hank, Jean, Bobby, Lorna, and Alex.
Ever noticed how Nightcrawler 's reintroduction was basically the same as his first appearance in Giant Sized?
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