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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 18, 2022 16:09:13 GMT
i have it probably as my mom does currently. We're all going to get it sooner or later. It's only a question as to severity of the case. If you're vaccinated, you should be fine.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 18, 2022 16:28:23 GMT
i have it probably as my mom does currently. We're all going to get it sooner or later. It's only a question as to severity of the case. If you're vaccinated, you should be fine. Particularly if vaccinated and boosted. The people I know who got it recently who were hit the hardest were not boosted yet, and those that were either were asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic. That is, of course, nothing but anecdotal evidence, but it's in-line with what the research is telling us.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 18, 2022 16:30:59 GMT
i have it probably as my mom does currently. My wife had it and I tested negative 4 times with home test kits. Who knows? I may have had it and the tests weren't great at picking up the new strain. It's possible that I had more protection from my booster since I had gotten it very recently and her's was months earlier, but I think it's likely that I got it too and just had milder symptoms.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 18, 2022 16:37:21 GMT
We're all going to get it sooner or later. It's only a question as to severity of the case. If you're vaccinated, you should be fine. Particularly if vaccinated and boosted. The people I know who got it recently who were hit the hardest were not boosted yet, and those that were either were asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic. That is, of course, nothing but anecdotal evidence, but it's in-line with what the research is telling us. Yeah we're all boosted. My inlaws (who are also boosted) got it a couple weeks ago and they were fine. Though their story proves why you should get vaccinated. So my father in law has had intestinal issues for a while, he had a blockage a couple weeks ago and ended up having to go to the hospital (where he of course tested positive for covid, considering his wife had just tested positive) and had to wait HOURS in the ER because guess what, the hospital was overwhelmed with unvaccinated covid cases (they were specifically told this by hospital staff, I'm not jumping to conclusions). People were laying in the hallways, there was a 38 person waitlist for a bed! The guy ended up in a converted closet. They initially told him he'd need surgery, but due to personnel shortages they basically did a home remedy of starving him out, giving him some different meds and sending him home! He's ok for now, but I doubt we've heard the last of his condition. Anyway point being, get vaccinated so you don't end up in a hospital; you'll be doing the world a favor, not just yourself.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 18, 2022 17:02:56 GMT
Particularly if vaccinated and boosted. The people I know who got it recently who were hit the hardest were not boosted yet, and those that were either were asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic. That is, of course, nothing but anecdotal evidence, but it's in-line with what the research is telling us. Yeah we're all boosted. My inlaws (who are also boosted) got it a couple weeks ago and they were fine. Though their story proves why you should get vaccinated. So my father in law has had intestinal issues for a while, he had a blockage a couple weeks ago and ended up having to go to the hospital (where he of course tested positive for covid, considering his wife had just tested positive) and had to wait HOURS in the ER because guess what, the hospital was overwhelmed with unvaccinated covid cases (they were specifically told this by hospital staff, I'm not jumping to conclusions). People were laying in the hallways, there was a 38 person waitlist for a bed! The guy ended up in a converted closet. They initially told him he'd need surgery, but due to personnel shortages they basically did a home remedy of starving him out, giving him some different meds and sending him home! He's ok for now, but I doubt we've heard the last of his condition. Anyway point being, get vaccinated so you don't end up in a hospital; you'll be doing the world a favor, not just yourself. Yup. It's sad, but a very common story. Data seems to be compiled differently in different locales, but in the NY metro area it was at least 75% of hospitalizations that were unvaccinated people, and I believe that's common across the country. And that rate is much higher for covid deaths. I'm glad that they had a way to treat your in-law. I hope that it all works out, but you're right that that is exactly the danger that the unvaccinated are adding to the medical system. If he actually needed surgery it's a real shame that people who listened to bad information are taking beds and doctors away from people who have other issues that need immediate attention when there's a proven fix. Oh well. We're not saying anything new here. We all know this information and yet some people just refuse to believe the reality. We're lucky that omicron is less severe and that the vaccine and tests are so readily available. We'll likely have a viable treatment medication soon and a yearly updated vaccine, and those that refuse to believe medical reality will be the benefactors of these innovations of medicine.
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Post by Rufus-T on Jan 18, 2022 18:32:47 GMT
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jan 18, 2022 20:09:19 GMT
Got tested yesterday as my dad may have it. Felt fine yesterday, but today woke up with a fever, but thankfully no other symptoms. Will get the test results by tomorrow. Fingers crossed for you both. Hopefully it's mild even if it comes back positive. Thanks. My dad, mom and I all came back negative, so that's good. I still have a low grade fever. Called off work today, may have to call off tomorrow. Thankfully I was scheduled to be off Monday to begin with.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 19, 2022 18:18:28 GMT
I tested positive a couple of days ago - not that I needed the confirmation. I’ve never been that sick before in my life. In the space of 18 hours I went from ticklish throat to run over by a train. I’m double dosed, but still ineligible for a booster. I’m glad I had the vaccines I had. Facing what I had, knowing what we know, without the vaccine would have been terrifying. Im in my 40’s with no health issues at all, and I was worried.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 19, 2022 18:33:44 GMT
I tested positive a couple of days ago - not that I needed the confirmation. I’ve never been that sick before in my life. In the space of 18 hours I went from ticklish throat to run over by a train. I’m double dosed, but still ineligible for a booster. I’m glad I had the vaccines I had. Facing what I had, knowing what we know, without the vaccine would have been terrifying. Im in my 40’s with no health issues at all, and I was worried. Hope you recover quickly, bob. Sounds like a nightmare.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 19, 2022 18:52:03 GMT
I tested positive a couple of days ago - not that I needed the confirmation. I’ve never been that sick before in my life. In the space of 18 hours I went from ticklish throat to run over by a train. I’m double dosed, but still ineligible for a booster. I’m glad I had the vaccines I had. Facing what I had, knowing what we know, without the vaccine would have been terrifying. Im in my 40’s with no health issues at all, and I was worried. Hope you're feeling better. That's scary stuff. It never hit me that hard but I know that worry, to some degree. Feel better.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 19, 2022 19:13:52 GMT
I tested positive a couple of days ago - not that I needed the confirmation. I’ve never been that sick before in my life. In the space of 18 hours I went from ticklish throat to run over by a train. I’m double dosed, but still ineligible for a booster. I’m glad I had the vaccines I had. Facing what I had, knowing what we know, without the vaccine would have been terrifying. Im in my 40’s with no health issues at all, and I was worried. I guess Djokovic served you an ace on his way out! Get well, Bob.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jan 19, 2022 20:56:32 GMT
I tested positive a couple of days ago - not that I needed the confirmation. I’ve never been that sick before in my life. In the space of 18 hours I went from ticklish throat to run over by a train. I’m double dosed, but still ineligible for a booster. I’m glad I had the vaccines I had. Facing what I had, knowing what we know, without the vaccine would have been terrifying. Im in my 40’s with no health issues at all, and I was worried. It sounds like you have recovered. Did you go to the hospital or rode it out at home?
I am getting my booster shot on Sunday. Looking forward to lowering my level of concern a tiny little bit.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 20, 2022 3:44:11 GMT
I’m better now - I didn’t go to hospital mainly because I never had ‘trouble’ breathing. I had such a bad fever, and pain throughout my body - especially my joints. Then came the coughing and congestion. The worst of it lasted about 36 hours.
It’s now Thursday afternoon - 6 days after the symptoms started and I’m still not 100%. Still hacking and sneezing up all sorts of wonderful stuff….
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jan 20, 2022 8:55:03 GMT
"Omicron: Is racism why South African evidence of milder infection was ignored?"Interesting article on the BBC:- www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-60039138I definitely found this annoying as far as the UK media was concerned. Was it racism or just a desire to sensationalise / drive numbers based upon fear? Who knows but it was incredibly annoying to see Johnson and Sturgeon using terminology like "tsunami" and see places like the BBC (were this article comes from!) ignore reporting on the South African data in favour of reporting rising case numbers and questioning why lockdowns hadn't been announced. All the while you could read stuff in Twitter from mid December stating the SA findings and the fact that hospitalisations were way down on the previous variants. Why were the scientific findings willfully ignored?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 20, 2022 9:52:35 GMT
"Omicron: Is racism why South African evidence of milder infection was ignored?"Interesting article on the BBC:- www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-60039138I definitely found this annoying as far as the UK media was concerned. Was it racism or just a desire to sensationalise / drive numbers based upon fear? Who knows but it was incredibly annoying to see Johnson and Sturgeon using terminology like "tsunami" and see places like the BBC (were this article comes from!) ignore reporting on the South African data in favour of reporting rising case numbers and questioning why lockdowns hadn't been announced. All the while you could read stuff in Twitter from mid December stating the SA findings and the fact that hospitalisations were way down on the previous variants. Why were the scientific findings willfully ignored? Deaths from Covid have gone up significantly in the UK though so it’s not that mild, though I do appreciate it does have a lower death rate than delta.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jan 20, 2022 10:07:47 GMT
It's worth looking here:- coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deathsYes, rates went up but I'm not sure how significantly. e.g. If you look at the first graph and click on the "1y" tab you get a very visual representation of the difference with last year. You can also click on the "Data" tab to look at the raw numbers. Without cherry picking any dates in particular, if you look between January this year and last it's looks like roughly a fifth of the deaths. So it's not that there isn't any deaths which I find an issue, it's why was it irresponsibly hyped up when we already had the South Africans producing figures in December saying it was markedly less severe...
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 20, 2022 10:10:44 GMT
It's worth looking here:- coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deathsYes, rates went up but I'm not sure how significantly. e.g. If you look at the first graph and click on the "1y" tab you get a very visual representation of the difference with last year. You can also click on the "Data" tab to look at the raw numbers. Without cherry picking any dates in particular, if you look between January this year and last it's looks like roughly a fifth of the deaths. So it's not that there isn't any deaths which I find an issue, it's why was it irresponsibly hyped up when we already had the South Africans producing figures in December saying it was markedly less severe... They’re three times what they were 4 weeks ago. Seven day average is 270 a day now versus 90 then. Weird time to end restrictions. And ending mask madate on public transport makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jan 20, 2022 10:30:22 GMT
Yes, deaths will be up I guess given the follow through period from contraction and the number of cases from the new variant. Plus middle of winter inevitably going to drive deaths up.
But look at the daily data from 12th Jan last year - 1,209, 1,214, 1,227, 1,225, 1,307, 1,267... It's about five times that seven day figure. And it fits in with what th South Africans were saying. So was racism within the scientific community at play?
I agree re ending mask wearing requirements - it's really no odds to wear one and if it helps the figures at all, then why not just keep it in place...
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jan 20, 2022 16:28:42 GMT
I can't speak for other countries but here in Canada the South African contention that Omicron was less severe but more transmissible was never questioned. We still re-introduced restrictions because the number of cases shot up, overwhelming the healthcare system, even though number of deaths was lower.
Some people just have to see racism everywhere...
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jan 20, 2022 17:34:50 GMT
Some people just have to see racism everywhere... True but are you saying you don't think it's at all at play re coronavirus? e.g. Here th South Africans very early on were saying that the hospitalisations rates were around a quarter of the previous variant, yet here in the UK we completely ignored their data. Plus, more broadly, covid is very much an opportunity to see the nationalism of various countries at play. i.e. "We'll close down our borders to all these foreigners bringing in their diseases here and we'll defeat covid".
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