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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 13:41:26 GMT
tpfkar You make comparisons to Muslims yourself. Satan was created to carry out the evil of God. You pray to Mary in heaven. Kneeling for the Queen is definitely a form of self-humbling and worship. St. Judas did god's bidding. For you, worship is whatever the Catholic hierarchy has determined for you. If other monotheistic religions do it, it obviously means that it is not breaking the First Commandment to do so. We have far more reason to honour the Blessed Virgin Mary, than Muslims do Muhammad, & yet, most Protestant divisions barely pay any lip service to her, whatsoever.Satan rebelled against God. Yes, honouring Mary is self-humbling, but, it doesn't constitute worship, anymore than Muslims honouring Muhammad, Jews honouring Abraham or Moses, Zoroastrians honouring Zarathustra, or Sikhs honouring Guru Nanak Dev, etc. Judas betrayed his Lord. I asked Karl if he knew what worship exactly is, & now I ask it of you: Do you know what worship exactly is?
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Post by kls on May 4, 2017 13:48:26 GMT
tpfkar You make comparisons to Muslims yourself. Satan was created to carry out the evil of God. You pray to Mary in heaven. Kneeling for the Queen is definitely a form of self-humbling and worship. St. Judas did god's bidding. For you, worship is whatever the Catholic hierarchy has determined for you. If other monotheistic religions do it, it obviously means that it is not breaking the First Commandment to do so. We have far more reason to honour the Blessed Virgin Mary, than Muslims do Muhammad, & yet, most Protestant divisions barely pay any lip service to her, whatsoever.Satan rebelled against God. Yes, honouring Mary is self-humbling, but, it doesn't constitute worship, anymore than Muslims honouring Muhammad, Jews honouring Abraham or Moses, Zoroastrians honouring Zarathustra, or Sikhs honouring Guru Nanak Dev, etc. Judas betrayed his Lord. I asked Karl if he knew what worship exactly is, & now I ask it of you: Do you know what worship exactly is? St. Judas is not Judas Iscariot.
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 13:58:20 GMT
tpfkar God fabricated Satan as an extension of Himself specifically to do His evil mischief. The idolization of Mary is worship, exemplified by self-humbling and prayer. Judas did what God specified he do. He was a perfect servant. Worship is an expression of avarice and fear. For many, it is of their worldly institutions and precisely what those institutions dictate, with all their arbitrary if convenient concoctions and self-contradictions, and nothing else. I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.
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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 18:46:38 GMT
Satan rebelled against God. Yes, honouring Mary is self-humbling, but, it doesn't constitute worship, anymore than Muslims honouring Muhammad, Jews honouring Abraham or Moses, Zoroastrians honouring Zarathustra, or Sikhs honouring Guru Nanak Dev, etc. Judas betrayed his Lord. I asked Karl if he knew what worship exactly is, & now I ask it of you: Do you know what worship exactly is? St. Judas is not Judas Iscariot. The other Judas in the 12, is known as St. Jude Thaddeus.
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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 18:48:09 GMT
tpfkar God fabricated Satan as an extension of Himself specifically to do His evil mischief. The idolization of Mary is worship, exemplified by self-humbling and prayer. Judas did what God specified he do. He was a perfect servant. Worship is an expression of avarice and fear. For many, it is of their worldly institutions and precisely what those institutions dictate, with all their arbitrary if convenient concoctions and self-contradictions, and nothing else. I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.![](http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/imdbv2/imdbsmileys/no.gif) That's not what worship is. Bugs Bunny. Try again!!!
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Post by dawglf on May 4, 2017 18:59:13 GMT
tpfkar God fabricated Satan as an extension of Himself specifically to do His evil mischief. The idolization of Mary is worship, exemplified by self-humbling and prayer. Judas did what God specified he do. He was a perfect servant. Worship is an expression of avarice and fear. For many, it is of their worldly institutions and precisely what those institutions dictate, with all their arbitrary if convenient concoctions and self-contradictions, and nothing else. I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.God did not create Lucifer as evil but allowed the potential for sin. While God cannot commit sin, He doesn’t take it away from those who do. When Lucifer chose to rebel, he instantly became the author of sin. Evil is the result of a free-will choice by Lucifer.
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 19:03:57 GMT
tpfkar 'Fraid so, Splashy Dip. Avarice and fear, pure and simple. fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and Monkeydoctor
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 19:08:25 GMT
tpfkar God can only "not commit sin" definitionally. But that's what leads people to great perversions like child-slaughter not being a sin. In reality, He does innumerable things that He counted as sin, if anybody else did them. And God created Satan with every one of his traits to do precisely what God wanted done, and nothing else. Might as well be the 4th Personality. so much love
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Post by dawglf on May 4, 2017 20:55:10 GMT
tpfkar God can only "not commit sin" definitionally. But that's what leads people to great perversions like child-slaughter not being a sin. In reality, He does innumerable things that He counted as sin, if anybody else did them. And God created Satan with every one of his traits to do precisely what God wanted done, and nothing else. Might as well be the 4th Personality. so much loveGod cannot commit sin because sin is basically anything that's against the will of God. So if God is doing it it is within his will.
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 21:04:41 GMT
tpfkar I just posted exactly that, and further how it leads to the great perversions and fundamental corruption that it instills in people. Any obscenity can be made acceptable to people, and just about any has at one time or another, via "it's God's will". so much love
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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 21:33:02 GMT
tpfkar 'Fraid so, Splashy Dip. Avarice and fear, pure and simple. fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorNope Bugs Bunny. Try again. Worship refers to a specific type of honour, which is reserved to God Alone.
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 21:43:35 GMT
tpfkar No need, it's all there Melisandre. Grovelling fueled by avarice and greed. fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and Monkeydoctor
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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 21:56:28 GMT
tpfkar No need, it's all there Melisandre. Grovelling fueled by avarice and greed. fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorYes there is a need, Fuzzboom!!!: What exactly IS worship?!?!
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 22:03:25 GMT
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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 22:14:11 GMT
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 22:24:03 GMT
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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 22:25:31 GMT
Nope. Your avoidance to answer the question, after you've been told you were wrong the first time, epitomizes your own post contributions, Fuzzboom.
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 22:33:23 GMT
tpfkar There's some more of that whiz thinking that explains your chant posts. You don't like the answer, so it's "avoidance". ![](https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/11/52/11528212c628e7ed1c9ad2fa1babfe3d.png) Maybe if you keep stamping your feet long enough you'll get your way. In the meantime, Asked and answered: grovelling fueled by avarice and fear. I only do what my Lord commands.
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Post by clusium on May 4, 2017 23:10:56 GMT
tpfkar There's some more of that whiz thinking that explains your chant posts. You don't like the answer, so it's "avoidance". ![](https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/11/52/11528212c628e7ed1c9ad2fa1babfe3d.png) Maybe if you keep stamping your feet long enough you'll get your way. In the meantime, Asked and answered: grovelling fueled by avarice and fear. I only do what my Lord commands. Wrong Fuzzboom!!! Worship refers to a specific type of honour that is given to God. What is it? Your answer thus far, is wrong, no matter how many times you offer it. I am looking for a specific answer (the correct one).
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Post by cupcakes on May 4, 2017 23:13:54 GMT
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