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Post by maya55555 on May 2, 2017 20:50:50 GMT
Well, I had submitted myself to the shingles vaccine. I saw the Dx effects in my 85 yr. old mother.
It could be very dangerous to anyone.
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Post by gadreel on May 2, 2017 22:56:21 GMT
Actually I never read your response, I assumed that it was in the same vein and Arlon and Science. But to be fair I am not really sure what your response is trying to say, are you suggesting that parents have the rights to withhold vaccinations? what would you base those rights on and to what extent would you allow parents to exercise them? There is no reason to draw a line between allowing a parent to pick a bad school for a kid and allowing a parent to prevent a kid to be vaccinated. The onus is on you to explain why the vaccination case is different and why that difference matters. No you are wrong, picking a bad school affects just the kid, but withholding vaccines affects your kids and others. I think the bad school example is a poor analogy as often 'bad' is subjective. Vaccines are objectively good, parents that withhold them from their children are objectively bad parents.
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Post by gadreel on May 2, 2017 22:58:10 GMT
You are genuinely too stupid to live. Again....what did I lie about? Nothing I said was a lie. You falsely accused me of lying. Your temper makes you look like a fool for the umpteenth time. It's a fair accusation though you argue dishonestly and have outright lied on this board at least once.
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Post by gadreel on May 2, 2017 23:00:08 GMT
I am watching the video now, and it is just as much bullshit as when you posted it. Why do you want to like the ignorant responses? They're not ignorant. And yes, the video is back on now. Yeah they are, but then you think Arlon is an intellectual so I guess you have difficulty spotting ignorance.
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Post by cupcakes on May 2, 2017 23:32:28 GMT
tpfkar It really does seem like something fundamental is broken in your head. You said I was wrong which is attacking me rather than my argument.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 3, 2017 5:04:18 GMT
They're not ignorant. And yes, the video is back on now. Yeah they are, but then you think Arlon is an intellectual so I guess you have difficulty spotting ignorance. You sound jealous, bro.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on May 3, 2017 5:56:56 GMT
Oh look, Blade's lying his moronic ass off again. I said it about YOU, dumbfuck, because it was the logical interpretation of what you said. Yeah, i know, you have no clue what anything i just said actually means. ![](http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/imdbv2/imdbsmileys/no.gif) Poor Blade. I'm not even sure if he's deflecting just for the sake of it or if he's really too stupid to understand that the way he attributes that quote makes it look like i said it about myself when i actually said it about him and therefore it is a lie.
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Post by PanLeo on May 3, 2017 12:14:27 GMT
There is no reason to draw a line between allowing a parent to pick a bad school for a kid and allowing a parent to prevent a kid to be vaccinated. The onus is on you to explain why the vaccination case is different and why that difference matters. No you are wrong, picking a bad school affects just the kid, but withholding vaccines affects your kids and others. I think the bad school example is a poor analogy as often 'bad' is subjective. Vaccines are objectively good, parents that withhold them from their children are objectively bad parents. Ok why draw the line when others are harmed? Why is it okay if the kid is harmed but not if others are? Bad being subjective has no relevance. Just picture whatever comes to mind when someone says a bad school.
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Post by Cinemachinery on May 3, 2017 16:39:11 GMT
If euthanasia is legal, why draw the line at euthanizing others? Why is it ok to kill yourself but not others? Such are the arguments of Padraig McPaedo.
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Post by PanLeo on May 3, 2017 16:54:51 GMT
If euthanasia is legal, why draw the line at euthanizing others? Why is it ok to kill yourself but not others? Such are the arguments of Padraig McPaedo. Being your usual assholish self while evading I see. Also I am not against mandatory vacinations btw
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Post by Cinemachinery on May 3, 2017 17:07:46 GMT
![](http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/imdbv2/imdbsmileys/giveup.gif) If citing your own logic is "assholish" one might look to the source.
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Post by gadreel on May 3, 2017 18:00:17 GMT
Yeah they are, but then you think Arlon is an intellectual so I guess you have difficulty spotting ignorance. You sound jealous, bro. Hmm, that is an odd response, what exactly would I be jealous of?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 3, 2017 18:02:02 GMT
Hmm, that is an odd response, what exactly would I be jealous of? Arlon's intellect, most likely.
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Post by gadreel on May 3, 2017 18:06:16 GMT
No you are wrong, picking a bad school affects just the kid, but withholding vaccines affects your kids and others. I think the bad school example is a poor analogy as often 'bad' is subjective. Vaccines are objectively good, parents that withhold them from their children are objectively bad parents. Ok why draw the line when others are harmed? Why is it okay if the kid is harmed but not if others are? Bad being subjective has no relevance. Just picture whatever comes to mind when someone says a bad school. Bad being subjective had all the relevance, one persons bad school is another persons good school, but no one with an informed opinion thinks that vaccines are bad, your analogy is terrrible. I draw the line here where others are harmed because the parents have some measure of responsibility over their own child and there could be a convoluted argument that withholding medical treatment is the right thing to do, but withholding vaccinations from a child impacts those children that cannot be vaccinated or for whom the vaccination does not work, thusly endangering children that the parents have no conceivable rights over.
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Post by gadreel on May 3, 2017 18:08:12 GMT
Hmm, that is an odd response, what exactly would I be jealous of? Arlon's intellect, most likely. One cannot be jealous of that which does not exist. Now I don't claim to be any kind of genius, nor do I have a high end website to display to all and sundry the fruits of my superior thinking, but I hold down a relatively high end job in the technical sector so I figure I do alright. No I don't think I feel lacking enough in intellect to be jealous of others.
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Post by PanLeo on May 3, 2017 18:16:12 GMT
Ok why draw the line when others are harmed? Why is it okay if the kid is harmed but not if others are? Bad being subjective has no relevance. Just picture whatever comes to mind when someone says a bad school. Bad being subjective had all the relevance, one persons bad school is another persons good school, but no one with an informed opinion thinks that vaccines are bad, your analogy is terrrible. I draw the line here where others are harmed because the parents have some measure of responsibility over their own child and there could be a convoluted argument that withholding medical treatment is the right thing to do, but withholding vaccinations from a child impacts those children that cannot be vaccinated or for whom the vaccination does not work, thusly endangering children that the parents have no conceivable rights over. Re bad: I know that's why I said whoever this analogy is presented to can just picture whatever they consider a bad school. What does the fact that someone with an informed opinion would know vacines are not bad have to do with the analogy? I don't think vaccines are bad. Re the line: Ok why does parents having responsibility over their own children make harming other children not ok? Why take away parental power in this case?
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Post by scienceisgod on May 3, 2017 18:53:11 GMT
Ok why draw the line when others are harmed? Why is it okay if the kid is harmed but not if others are? Bad being subjective has no relevance. Just picture whatever comes to mind when someone says a bad school. Bad being subjective had all the relevance, one persons bad school is another persons good school, but no one with an informed opinion thinks that vaccines are bad, your analogy is terrrible. I draw the line here where others are harmed because the parents have some measure of responsibility over their own child and there could be a convoluted argument that withholding medical treatment is the right thing to do, but withholding vaccinations from a child impacts those children that cannot be vaccinated or for whom the vaccination does not work, thusly endangering children that the parents have no conceivable rights over. Everyone who is informed about religion is against it. 99% of the world is wrong and you are right.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on May 3, 2017 19:02:36 GMT
Bad being subjective had all the relevance, one persons bad school is another persons good school, but no one with an informed opinion thinks that vaccines are bad, your analogy is terrrible. I draw the line here where others are harmed because the parents have some measure of responsibility over their own child and there could be a convoluted argument that withholding medical treatment is the right thing to do, but withholding vaccinations from a child impacts those children that cannot be vaccinated or for whom the vaccination does not work, thusly endangering children that the parents have no conceivable rights over. Everyone who is informed about religion is against it. 99% of the world is wrong and you are right. Aardvark revolution tango!!!
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Post by gadreel on May 3, 2017 20:21:42 GMT
Bad being subjective had all the relevance, one persons bad school is another persons good school, but no one with an informed opinion thinks that vaccines are bad, your analogy is terrrible. I draw the line here where others are harmed because the parents have some measure of responsibility over their own child and there could be a convoluted argument that withholding medical treatment is the right thing to do, but withholding vaccinations from a child impacts those children that cannot be vaccinated or for whom the vaccination does not work, thusly endangering children that the parents have no conceivable rights over. Everyone who is informed about religion is against it. 99% of the world is wrong and you are right. Wow, so wrong.
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Post by Cinemachinery on May 3, 2017 20:24:19 GMT
Arlon's intellect, most likely. One cannot be jealous of that which does not exist. Now I don't claim to be any kind of genius, nor do I have a high end website to display to all and sundry the fruits of my superior thinking, but I hold down a relatively high end job in the technical sector so I figure I do alright. No I don't think I feel lacking enough in intellect to be jealous of others. You're not jealous of a the guy who complained that a mathematical model of a spreading disease didn't feature any pictures of people with the disease? How can you not be jealous of that guy?
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