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Post by moviemouth on Aug 16, 2020 20:02:22 GMT
What are some movie villains so forgettable or flat-out awful that either ruin otherwise good movies or make bad movies even worse. Steppenwolf  Thomas Gabriel |
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Post by kolchak92 on Aug 16, 2020 20:23:11 GMT
Robert Vaughn's Lex Luther expy in Superman III.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Aug 16, 2020 20:26:03 GMT
Dominic Greene from Quantum of Solace
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Post by politicidal on Aug 16, 2020 20:27:39 GMT
Malekith in Thor: The Dark World
Memnon in The Scorpion King
Blackheart in Ghost Rider
Enchantress & Incubus in Suicide Squad
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Post by ck100 on Aug 16, 2020 20:28:24 GMT
The villains from The Living Daylights.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 16, 2020 20:30:36 GMT
Robert Vaughn's Lex Luther expy in Superman III. I completely agree.
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Post by johnspartan on Aug 16, 2020 20:33:37 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Aug 16, 2020 20:34:58 GMT
The villains from The Living Daylights. Brad Whitaker and that Russian guy? Yeah they were dumb. The giant henchman was kind of cool though.
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Post by marth on Aug 16, 2020 21:10:33 GMT
 Jack Travis from Lethal Weapon 3. I think he is a very weak villain. |
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Post by Sarge on Aug 16, 2020 21:17:50 GMT
Dr. Totenkopf in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow  Bennett in Commando, he doesn't ever feel like a threat to Arnold.  |
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 16, 2020 21:19:10 GMT
Jack Travis from Lethal Weapon 3. I think he is a very weak villain. He is a weak villain from a writing standpoint, but I really like Stuart Wilson's performance.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 16, 2020 21:21:22 GMT
Speaking of Thomas Gabriel, the killers in Scream 2 kinda derail the movie for me. Both are basically just doing impressions of other movie killers.
Every MCU villain (sans TWS) up until Phase 3. Hot take, I'm including Loki in that, who was vaguely interesting in Thor 1 and then just generic in The Avengers. He didn't really grow on me until he became a comic relief anti-whatever.
Count Dooku. Sandwiched between a martial arts tattoo demon and Darth Fucking Vader is a stiff senior citizen with a crooked penis lightsaber and vague motives.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 16, 2020 21:25:40 GMT
Speaking of Thomas Gabriel, the killers in Scream 2 kinda derail the movie for me. Both are basically just doing impressions of other movie killers. Every MCU villain (sans TWS) up until Phase 3. Hot take, I'm including Loki in that, who was vaguely interesting in Thor 1 and then just generic in The Avengers. He didn't really grow on me until he became a comic relief anti-whatever. Count Dooku. Sandwiched between a martial arts tattoo demon and Darth Fucking Vader is a stiff senior citizen with a crooked penis lightsaber and vague motives. I don't have any issue with that, especially in a Scream sequel. Count Dooku is awesome just because of Christopher Lee. I don't require villains to be all that interesting from a writing standpoint as long as I find the look and performances of the characters and actors entertaining and interesting. Depends on the movie too. Someone above mentioned the villain in Thor: The Dark World and he is 3 for 3. Not remotely interesting from a writing standpoint, he looks like he walked off the set of a Star Trek sequel and his performance is completely generic.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 16, 2020 21:35:38 GMT
Forgot some more.
Poppy Adams in Kingsman: The Golden Circle
Hector Hammond in Green Lantern
Sonny Burch in Antman and the Wasp
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 16, 2020 21:38:23 GMT
Forgot some more.
Poppy Adams in Kingsman: The Golden Circle
Hector Hammond in Green Lantern
Sonny Burch in Antman and the Wasp
Poppy Adams is one of the only aspects of the movie I even like. I agree with all your other choices though, especially the ones in your first response.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 16, 2020 21:42:30 GMT
Forgot some more.
Poppy Adams in Kingsman: The Golden Circle
Hector Hammond in Green Lantern
Sonny Burch in Antman and the Wasp
Poppy Adams is one of the only aspects of the movie I even like. I agree with all your other choices though, especially the ones in your first response. I thought Moore was just wasted. Especially after seeing her play a solid enough love-to-hate villain like Alma Coin in the Hunger Game movies.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 16, 2020 21:43:32 GMT
Speaking of Thomas Gabriel, the killers in Scream 2 kinda derail the movie for me. Both are basically just doing impressions of other movie killers. Every MCU villain (sans TWS) up until Phase 3. Hot take, I'm including Loki in that, who was vaguely interesting in Thor 1 and then just generic in The Avengers. He didn't really grow on me until he became a comic relief anti-whatever. Count Dooku. Sandwiched between a martial arts tattoo demon and Darth Fucking Vader is a stiff senior citizen with a crooked penis lightsaber and vague motives. I don't have any issue with that, especially in a Scream sequel. Count Dooku is awesome just because of Christopher Lee. I don't require villains to be interesting as long as I find the look and performances of the characters entertaining. Depends on the movie too. The killers in Scream 1 were their own characters. And I almost stuck an asterisk saying I don't give a shit that it's Christopher Lee. Not in 2002 when I'd never heard of Hammer Horror, and not in 2020 having seen Hammer Horror. I always found him overrated.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 16, 2020 21:47:08 GMT
Poppy Adams is one of the only aspects of the movie I even like. I agree with all your other choices though, especially the ones in your first response. I thought Moore was just wasted. Especially after seeing her play a solid enough love-to-hate villain like Alma Coin in the Hunger Game movies. She is wasted, but the reason this bothers me is because when she is given stuff to do she is awesome and the the movie sidelines her character for all this other dumb crap.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 16, 2020 21:47:36 GMT
I don't have any issue with that, especially in a Scream sequel. Count Dooku is awesome just because of Christopher Lee. I don't require villains to be interesting as long as I find the look and performances of the characters entertaining. Depends on the movie too. The killers in Scream 1 were their own characters. And I almost stuck an asterisk saying I don't give a shit that it's Christopher Lee. Not in 2002 when I'd never heard of Hammer Horror, and not in 2020 having seen Hammer Horror. I always found him overrated. I am not saying the villains in Scream 2 are anywhere near the same quality as the villains in Scream, but I think they are effective for what they are. That explains why I like Count Dooku a lot more than you. Christopher Lee has one of the most effortlessly menacing screen presences of any actor in the history of film for me. I could watch him read the most boring book imaginable and I would enjoy it immensely. That is a bit of hyperbole obviously, but I think you get my point.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 16, 2020 22:24:11 GMT
Christopher Lee was the only lively thing about Attack of the Clones.
He was just more charismatic than everyone else. Ian McDiarmid was the only other one with any kind of oomph. Ewan MacGregor was grouchy.
Anyway
The computer nerd bad guy in Die Hard 4.
They really lost the formula with him. He was so boring.
The bald arab whatever terrorist guy in Iron Man
The bald arab whatever guy in Robin Hood the Ridley Scott version.
Evil bald guys have come down a long way from Telly Savalas.
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